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[#] Thu Feb 02 2017 14:16:26 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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But don't you want a Windows Phone?

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Ars Technica is declaring all non-Android-Apple mobile platforms to be officially dead. No surprise, really, but it's a good thing to see such an important part of the technology market where Microsoft can *barely* be called a distant third.

How's the Pixel, fleeb? Worth the upgrade from a Nexus?

[#] Thu Feb 02 2017 16:10:30 EST from zooer

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Pixel 2 and the Pixel 2B will be available..... "soon"

[#] Fri Feb 03 2017 09:38:00 EST from fleeb

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I've had no problems with my Pixel XL.

It takes gorgeous pictures, runs very well, and I even played around with the VR stuff it enables, and found that kinda fun, too (although not that many titles at the moment).

I have never been one to use a camera in the rain, so I will probably be okay with its lack of water-resistance.

Oh, it has some pretty useful features that people might overlook, though.
For example, I configured it to automatically join an open wifi that it finds acceptable (no screens that require you to log in) and establish a VPN so you don't have to worry about the openness of the wifi point. While there are not very many places that have a decent, properly open wifi, there is one restaurant that I enjoy going to that does have it. So I got to see it work, and it's very nice.

It does a better job of detecting the amount of light than previous google phones have, such that it can dim the screen properly.

I enabled this LED notification thingy that lets me know, inobtrusively, when I've received a notification by occasionally flashing an LED on the phone.
I had this feature with a previous phone and liked it.

You can configure the notifications that show on the locked screen in a way to make them hide information you don't want openly seen on that screen, which is nice. You can also hide the notification altogether if you prefer.

Basically, it has worked very well so far. No trouble at all.

[#] Wed Feb 08 2017 09:35:47 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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My current phone (Nexus 5) is having some problems and I'm giving some consideration to replacing it. The experience with a "pure Google" phone has been delightful, so it would make sense to stay with HOLY FUCK $649US FOR A PHONE? Never mind.

[#] Wed Feb 08 2017 10:20:33 EST from zooer

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I read that the Pixel 2 is suppose to have a cheaper version, Pixel 2 and Pixel 2B, but I am not sure.

[#] Wed Feb 08 2017 10:27:49 EST from wizard of aahz

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<laughs> Oh gods.. I can see you doing exactly that.

[#] Wed Feb 08 2017 10:29:39 EST from the_mgt

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But but but... only Crapple devices are overpriced!!!!!

Anyway, you can still have a lot of fun with your Nexus 5:


[#] Wed Feb 08 2017 20:34:33 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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iPhone 7 $649US
Pixel $649US

So yes it does appear that Google is finally copying Apple after all. :)

I'm not spending that kind of coin on a phone. To be honest, I'm perfectly happy with my Nexus 5, but the mic is busted again, and the non-replaceable battery doesn't have much of a runtime anymore. Both are fixable with some effort.

Or maybe I'll get a Huawei so the Chinese government has direct access into my home and work networks.

[#] Thu Feb 09 2017 04:36:19 EST from the_mgt

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Samsung and lots of other Android manufacturers have had and have phones in that price range.

And almost all chips in any phone and probably most other hardware are manufactured in China, they already have access to all the networks. There are close to non open source driver for chinese chips, and even if there are, you need some binary blob most of the time. Richard Martin Stallman tries to use open source hardware, if you do so, you probably lag at least 2 generations behind.

Call Trump and tell him to force all component manufacturers to build american plants. He gives a shit about environmental and health issues anyway. But expect phones to double in price, when you pay american style exploitation wages instead of china style slave wages. ;)

[#] Thu Feb 09 2017 09:58:23 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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RMS would have an apoplectic tantrum if he heard you using his name and the phrase "open source" in the same sentence.

I'm not really concerned about proprietary chipsets/drivers, particularly in a phone.  I'll buy a CheapChinese(tm) phone if it is compatible with my carrier's network in the US.  I just don't want the crapware that some manufacturers and carriers load on top of the base OS and then mark as non-removable.

[#] Thu Feb 09 2017 13:10:45 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold

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Have you looked at the BLU phones? Not bad for the price.

[#] Thu Feb 09 2017 17:56:37 EST from the_mgt

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Wait at least until end of the month, when MWC is taking place here in ye olde europe. Jolla has something to unveil, maybe a stunning new phone with their actual GNU/Linux. Unlike that depraved bastard OS that was devised by Hitler at Google.

[#] Thu Feb 16 2017 13:41:53 EST from fleeb

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I think there's a trend towards the 'non-locked' phone, which costs more, but you can do whatever the fuck you want with the phone without having to worry about plans or some nonsense.

So, yeah, it costs more, but it's unlocked... at least to the degree you want to do anything unlocky with it. Like, say, switch to another cell phone service.

[#] Thu Feb 16 2017 17:15:32 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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I don't know about other carriers, but I'm on T-Mobile and they have no problem with unlocked phones, as long as they're fully paid up. If you buy a phone outright it will be unlocked (at least my last one was), and if you pay in installments they'll give you the unlock code if you ask after making the last payment.

I don't know, maybe I'll buy a new battery and when I disassemble the phone to install it I'll try to fix the mic again. I don't actually have any desire for a newer phone.

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