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[#] Tue Mar 22 2016 13:24:27 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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From what I've been reading, this is an effort on Microsoft's part to seize an opportunity to whack Oracle.

Anyone who's delved into Oracle licensing knows what I mean.  If you want to run Oracle in a virtual machine, they charge you for every CPU core in your entire virtualization cluster, regardless of how many vCPU you've actually assigned to the virtual machine running Oracle.  And it seems that they have no intention to change that.


So it seems Microsoft see an opportunity to sell databases to customers who want a commercially-supported database on Linux in either a private cluster or in a cloud.  Hey, it could work ... after all Microsoft SQL Server started life as a port of Sybase, which already ran on Unix.   I've heard that Postgres is a lot closer to Oracle than MariaDB is, but it still isn't Oracle.  And even in the 21st century, there are still a lot of neanderthals who won't accept any software that isn't supported by a megavendor.

Now if they port Exchange, I will burn down the whole world.

[#] Fri Mar 25 2016 08:50:33 EDT from dothebart

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well, oracle found it a good idea to have the cheapo mysql offering in house a while back to hunt down sql server that had been itching on their lower end customer sides.

Now that denying the existance of linux isn't number one priority for all microsoft employees anymore (azure has ~30% linux vms) it seems they finaly take decisions that are "in the best interest of their customers" - we will see how that works out.

[#] Sun Apr 03 2016 00:26:43 EDT from ryan42

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M$ SQL Server running on Linux.

...and now the bash shell on Windows. The world is upside down.

[#] Tue Apr 05 2016 13:36:59 EDT from fleeb

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Eh, Windows has had that for a while through cygwin.

But, if you mean compiled natively, yeah, that'd be new.

[#] Wed Apr 06 2016 16:47:57 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Supposedly this thing can run Linux binaries. We'll see.

For making Windows tolerable for people accustomed to real operating systems, there is nothing finer than MobaXterm. It is a full Cygwin environment without the obtusivity usually associated with Cygwin. You click a button and everything "just works." Cygwin isn't even its primary function -- MobaXterm is bascially a "universal terminal program" that has SSH, telnet, VNC, X Window system, RDP, FTP/SFTP, and a serial console all built in. Tabbed windows. And you can open tabs that are local command prompts, either a unix shell (via the included Cygwin), cmd.exe, or powershell (ugh).

It's effortless. If you open a program that needs X, either locally or over an SSH session, the X server starts up and does its thing, with its windows integrated into your desktop along with the native windows.

I can't say enough good things about MobaXterm. If you are a native penguin forced to work in a Windows environment, this is the program that makes it tolerable.

[#] Wed Apr 13 2016 14:10:28 EDT from fleeb

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Hm. I should give that a look-see, and find out to what degree that's hackable (as in, black-hat). It might be funny to see the look on certain students' faces when you do something that doesn't quite look right.

[#] Thu Apr 14 2016 16:58:01 EDT from dothebart

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oh, i/o error commented?

[#] Sun Apr 17 2016 05:24:37 EDT from the_mgt

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Gentoo comes with OpenRC instead of systemd. It is also a perpetual LTS version, since you never dist-upgrade or any other shit, it just keeps rolling.

And if you need to compile a few things from source anyway, you can wrap them up in an ebuild and let it build for you without worrying.

[#] Sat Apr 23 2016 08:31:06 EDT from fleeb

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Sounds like Kali 2.0 Linux. Rolling updates... nice when you want to be practical, difficult if you want people to teach others how to work with you.

[#] Sun Apr 24 2016 09:17:48 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I keep hearing good things about Kali from people who new to Linux and only slightly interested in it.  What's the deal with that?  What makes Kali different other than rolling updates?

[#] Mon Apr 25 2016 12:33:38 EDT from the_mgt

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It is a security focused distro, usable for pentesting and stuff like that. Says wiki:

Kali Linux is a Debian-derived Linux distribution designed for digital forensics and penetration testing. It is maintained and funded by Offensive Security Ltd. 

I haven't really used it, but I am planning to put it on a usb pendrive to carry around.

[#] Wed Apr 27 2016 08:54:59 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Ok, that makes sense, and is consistent with where I've seen it deployed: people who know that Linux is the best OS for security diagnostics but are too lame to actually *run* Linux.

[#] Mon May 23 2016 14:26:32 EDT from zooer

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Does anyone here have an HP network all-in-one with a memory card?  If so how do you access the memory card from Linux?  The setup I used in my Ubuntu 12.4 install is now obsolete, the software package is no longer available. 

When I use this thing called "google" it brings up the no longer valid link or a suggestion about using "connect to Server" with windows share but I can't find information on what username/password to use to connect to the all-in-one.  There is an admin password for the all-in-one that doesn't work.  My samba username/password does not work.


[#] Thu Jun 16 2016 13:15:28 EDT from Sig

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My little Pine64 single board computer (the expensive $29) one has been running as a Minecraft server for my home for about a month. I want to move it somewhere out of the way (right now it's in the living room), but... uptime.

[#] Mon Jun 20 2016 01:46:01 EDT from rat

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Thu Jun 16 2016 13:15:28 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored
My little Pine64 single board computer... but... uptime.

If there's anything those single board computers are good for, it's uptime. My Seagate Dockstar (basically a neutered SheevaPlug) ran for 860 days until I decided I needed to upgrade the aging 2.6.32 kernel. Could have easily broken 1400 days uptime if I didn't shut down the system to move it onto a cart.

[#] Mon Jun 20 2016 20:51:01 EDT from rat

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This is a bit of a tough one. My Google-Fu is usually pretty good in this regards but not for this specific case.

A short while ago it was announced that if you were using Skylake processors, that the Linux power management is/was utter garbage and you'd best avoid Linux until the issues were fixed. Intel later released a statement that if your system cannot go into the newer power states, premature failure may occur for those using Skylake (and similar) SOCs and CPUs.

I've experienced this issue firsthand with Bay Trail, my Atom Quadcore netbook would randomly freeze during light load situations... Traced the issue down to cstate switching. I had to set it to a Max CState of 2 in grub/kernel before I could use the system without random freezes. The worst result is that you had an older processor power-wise: Speedstepping, but no voltage dropping and idle/off states that would further reduce power.

Turns out that Skylake takes it a step further and depends on these lower states to preserve processor integrity. (Seems fishy to me as aren't CPUs supposed to be able to run at full load when needed?) I got a nice laptop for work use and wanted to put xUbuntu on it. There's some guides out there that cover my model specifically... to be able to fully tweak it for Linux (it's largely compatible as-is) but NOTHING about the cstate issues. I search, I find bug report threads... but nothing that tells me one thing:

How will I know when it's safe to install any Linux kernel for the proc? Seems we hear a lot about the problem but not when it's resolved. If it gets resolved. Or at least, have confirmation that using Linux isn't going to cause potential issues with hardware down the line (and man, that sounds like Microsoft FUD... Keep windows on your machine or IT DIES!)

Windows 10 blows. 

[#] Mon Jun 20 2016 22:02:43 EDT from LoanShark

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This will surely be fixed by the time Skylake-E comes out and the datacenter crowd can't live without a functioning Linux on that chip.

[#] Wed Jul 13 2016 07:50:16 EDT from fleeb

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Re: Kali Linux...

Yeah, specifically, the current version of it is derived from Debian's "Jessie" release. It's used in cyber security to perform penetration testing. But I've heard some people suggest that it's kind of a beginner's tool for such efforts, and when you grow a little more in your testing, you might create your own machine or significantly alter Kali as desired.

Heh. I'm a beginner, hands down. I'd need training even to use Kali, although it does come preloaded with a lot of commonly used tools.

I forget why I mentioned it. Oh, something about rolling releases... they elected to go with that model for updates. Just like Windows 10. Heh.

(Now I feel like a troll).

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