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[#] Wed Dec 02 2015 19:52:25 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: SYS_Citadel auto-purged

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That message is harmless, and one of these days we ought to get around to keeping that auto-generated account from getting purged.

[#] Mon Mar 07 2016 16:09:21 EST from mkramer @ Uncensored

Subject: Install Question

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I installed Citadel on Ubuntu15 using the command:

   sudo apt-get install citadel-suite

I was not prompted for an admin id/password.

What is the default admin id/password in this situation?

Thanks!

Mike

 



[#] Mon Mar 14 2016 16:01:37 EDT from Freakdog @ Uncensored

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Commandment #1: Thou shalt ask all Citadel Support questions in the Citadel Support> Room.

Commandment #2 Thou shalt always run <CITADEL DIR>/setup upon any new installation (or even upgrade) of citadel.

[#] Mon Mar 28 2016 09:28:17 EDT from Freakdog @ Uncensored

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IG (or whomever else might be monitoring things):

Uncensored no longer seems to be polling Dog Pound II, and Dog Pound II doesn't seem to be able to properly connect to Uncensored, anymore:

Flags: .

Session: 8597

Name: SYS_CitNetworker

In room:

Host: uncensored.citadel.org

Client: Failed to connect

Idle: 405325:21:00

Can someone figure out what's going on, over here?OM

In other news, since I don't get any traffic at DP2 other than networking and RSS feeds, I'm seriously considering taking DP2 down and suggesting that the two nodes that network with me work with IG (or whomever else helps manage it) to arrange direct networking with Uncensored.

[#] Fri Apr 01 2016 12:55:14 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I've restarted my citadel server ... let's see if the connection comes back.

[#] Sun Apr 03 2016 17:44:40 EDT from Freakdog @ Uncensored

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Still running into the same thing. I kill the session from my end, i get new packets imported, and then my system attempts to make an outbound connection to Uncensored and I get the same error. That session stays until I @term it and something else kicks in.

[#] Tue Apr 05 2016 12:03:27 EDT from Freakdog @ Uncensored

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Another issue, my spoolfile for Uncensored is growing and never seems to make it over here.

[#] Tue Apr 05 2016 18:50:56 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Freakdog:

Drastic suggestion....
Completely re-install your Citadel software.

There is obviously something mucking things up, and it could well be executable file corruption. How old is the hard drive it sits on?

--Me

[#] Wed Apr 06 2016 02:56:02 EDT from vince-q @ Uncensored

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Freaky.... it's broken again.

[#] Wed Apr 06 2016 08:49:09 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Freaky.... it's broken again.

What is?

[#] Wed Apr 06 2016 08:53:39 EDT from Freakdog @ Uncensored

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Drastic suggestion....
Completely re-install your Citadel software.

There is obviously something mucking things up, and it could well be

executable file corruption. How old is the hard drive it sits on?

I've already rebuilt it. It's not a corrupt binary issue...corrupt binaries either don't run at all or coredump all over the place...neither of which is the case.

IG...after removing the ~128K spoolfile, things seem to be working, again.

I'd like to get the spoolfile over to you (or someone) for analysis and, if possible, import into Uncensored (since there's traffic back from my system and a couple of others that might be relevant to discussions).

What's my best option for doing so?

[#] Wed Apr 06 2016 10:53:39 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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IG...after removing the ~128K spoolfile, things seem to be working,
again.


Wow. Whodathunkit?!?!?!
Well, if that was the cause and it's fixed, great! And thank-yew.

[#] Wed Apr 06 2016 16:57:14 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Wow. Ok, so to clarify -- is this an outbound spool file that your system was not able to send, or an inbound spool file that your system was not able to import?

Either way, drop it on a web server somewhere and I'll put it on my dev system to take it apart.


Ultimately, I want to completely replace the networking system with something else. I'm moving towards abandoning the framework that lets multiple Citadel servers share a single email domain, because as far as I can tell, nobody is using it that way. Plenty of people want multiple domains on one server; nobody wants multiple servers on one domain. It just isn't our sweet spot.
So the networking thing will be strictly for room sharing in the traditional sense, and we have to make it easy.

Since we own port 504/udp as well as 504/tcp, I'm thinking we could build some sort of automatic peer-to-peer network. With a bit of planning, this could allow any Citadel operator to "publish" the existence of a shareable room, and anyone could "subscribe" to it. It would automatically punch through firewalls and discover the topology.

I wonder if we can find the person who owns the rights to the name "CitaNet" and ask if we can use it... :)

[#] Wed Apr 06 2016 20:15:50 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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I wonder if we can find the person who owns the rights to the name
"CitaNet" and ask if we can use it... :)


To the best of my knowledge, nobody has ever exerted rights to "CitaNet".

Ultimately you should track down Jeff Prothero (Cynbe ru Taren) somewhere in Seattle (good luck with that).

In his absence, there would be Hue, Jr. in Minneapolis. Neither he or his "Citadel-86 Test System" has been heard from since roughly 1993.

The next step would be the developer of Citadel:K2NE.
That dates from 1986.
The developer in question would be me.
I have ABSOLUTELY no objection.

--Vince (K2NE)

[#] Wed Apr 06 2016 23:18:08 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Wed Apr 06 2016 08:15:50 PM EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS
In his absence, there would be Hue, Jr. in Minneapolis. Neither he or his "Citadel-86 Test System" has been heard from since roughly 1993. 


c86net.dyndns.org  was up and running a few years ago, 2013 or so.... just for a few months.  Not that it matters



[#] Thu Apr 07 2016 03:04:52 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Heh.
As I said earlier, the CitaNet thingee has never been exerted as "proprietary." Not by CrT, or Hue, Jr. or me.

Just use it. <evil grin>

[#] Fri Apr 08 2016 10:08:04 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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I clicked on the RSS icon above:

 

This page contains the following errors:

error on line 113 at column 281: Input is not proper UTF-8, indicate encoding ! Bytes: 0x1B 0x4F 0x4D 0x20


[#] Sat Apr 09 2016 09:04:21 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Wow. Ok, so to clarify -- is this an outbound spool file that your
system was not able to send, or an inbound spool file that your system

was not able to import?

Either way, drop it on a web server somewhere and I'll put it on my
dev system to take it apart.

Outbound spool...I'll take care of making it available and message you privately with the link.

I thought the idea of having multiple servers on one domain was for the groupware functionality. I would think that if we want to position the software for the groupware space, we would want to keep that functionality in place.

[#] Mon Mar 28 2016 19:01:51 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Seems to be working just fine now, Freaky.
All day today - in both directions.

--Vince

[#] Tue Mar 29 2016 08:33:55 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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I just killed a "Failed to connect" process on my system, again. <shrug>

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