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[#] Thu Aug 23 2018 17:55:14 EDT from mo

Subject: Deliverability of Mailing list recipients

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I have a list of people i want to contact via email, around 100. It is for a small site i set up, to save the farmer's market i worked at in London. Basically this market was closed by the company which manages most London Farmer's markets, but the traders and the customers want to keep this market running. We have been negotiating with the school which hosts the market every Sunday, and need to get all the paperwork concerning a new contract sorted out before we can go forward. It looks like this will be a community run market, jointly operated by customers and traders for the local community (cutting out the middleman altogether, just paying rent to the school ) - if we can satisfy the school, with a watertight legal contract.

I collected nearly 100 names and email addresses on the last day of the market (it's shut now a couple of weeks, and we only had a few weeks notice) and would like to send them all an email, pointing them to the website, and online petition, plus mailing list/newsletter i have set up on this site, to keep up to date with the news.

The domain host suggested i get a third party email service to send so many emails, as they have strict filters which would not allow so many mails. After a few false starts, i have an account with Sendinblue, have my  domain authenticated, SPF and DKIM records set on my ISPs DNS and had them look over this also. All seems good.

I have set up a few test lists to send around 6 emails at a time to some of my friends and most mail ends up in the spam folders, especially gmail accounts. I have been telling my friends to check all mail from my domain, as 'not spam' and send me a reply - in the hope this might improve my reputation with gmail et al .

Is there anything else i can do?



( i presume, if i had my own citadel server up and running, i could have used the mailing list built in to citadel to send bulk mail ? )

[#] Fri Aug 24 2018 13:26:36 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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Try our MailChimp....

[#] Fri Aug 24 2018 13:49:51 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Deliverability of Mailing list recipients

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If you're using a third party delivery service, you're definitely going to need to put that service's sending addresses in your domain's SPF record.
But they probably told you that already.

[#] Mon Aug 27 2018 13:45:47 EDT from mo

Subject: Re: Deliverability of Mailing list recipients

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Well the third party (sendinblue) just listed the two txt records, one spf, and one dkim to create on my ISP's (my domian host) DNS.

And here is  the spf record:    v=spf1 mx ~all   (that's obviously the record value, but the 'host' field is blank)

So it looks like that covers all emails coming from sendinblue?

They didnt tell me, for the dkim, you have to split the record up in to managable chunks, which my ISP done for me.



[#] Mon Aug 27 2018 13:51:07 EDT from mo

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Thanks Ragnar! You are the second person who has recomended Mailchimp. You said "our"? Do you work for Mailchimp?

Maybe third time lucky? I tried Mailgun, now Sendinblue...


[#] Mon Aug 27 2018 14:23:45 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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Sorry - just a type. R and T are next to each other. Meant out.

[#] Mon Aug 27 2018 14:29:04 EDT from LoanShark <>

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Anyone got a copy of Eudora I can warez?

[#] Mon Aug 27 2018 14:47:56 EDT from mo

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Mon Aug 27 2018 14:23:45 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold
Sorry - just a type. R and T are next to each other. Meant out.

lol! Everything between A and Z - (or Q & M ?) is fartoo close together for my claws of fingers.


[#] Mon Aug 27 2018 16:20:58 EDT from mo

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I just sent my first mail to my main list of nearly 100. 14 hard bounces - one soft. Gawd and i spent ages typing up those email addresses, and verifying the unintellagaqble ones.

Exciting stuff i have 5 openers, and one guy who has signed up for our newsletter/mailing list. (actually i remember this guys email as i had to check his domain, it was a real scrawl,

but glad i did, as he was a top lawyer from offices in the best lawyers addresses in London. We need legal help at the moment at our little market :) ) .

Anyway, i'm happy to get some news out to the people who left me their emails  just over 4 weeks ago.


I wish i had something stronger than a coke, or coffee right now. :)


[#] Wed Aug 29 2018 12:19:56 EDT from fleeb <>

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*attempts to pronounce 'unintellagaqble' unsuccessfully*

[#] Wed Aug 29 2018 12:43:46 EDT from wizard of aahz

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That was completely unintellagaqble.

[#] Wed Aug 29 2018 14:52:31 EDT from fleeb <>

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You always had the gift to pronounce the unpronouncable.

[#] Mon Sep 03 2018 18:09:33 EDT from winzlo

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Yeah, IG, the R and T keys excuse is truly valid. What isn't so valid was my old habit of typing "floppy disk" and for some reason unrelated to my own personal medical status, swapping the S with a C. That one got me in quite a lot of hot water growing up.

[#] Fri Sep 14 2018 09:00:06 EDT from fleeb <>

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When I worked for WinINSTALL, someone in marketing didn't clear the promotional material through channels properly, and let that kind of spelling slip.

It was very prominant, too. One would think, done on purpose, if one actually thought the person who did it had two brain cells to rub together.

[#] Mon Sep 24 2018 22:01:00 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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There is an entire generation of people now in Corporate America who are only capable of ensuring that the marketing materials are "lit, and not rekt" rather than actually being able to spell and think.

[#] Wed Sep 26 2018 09:49:32 EDT from Decomposed <>

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I've been able to receive e-mails (on Uncensored Citadel) from external e-mail hosts, but the ones I've sent in reply were never delivered.  Is this a known glitch?

[#] Wed Sep 26 2018 09:54:39 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Because of past abuse, we've had to set things up so that new accounts need permission to send Internet mail.  I'll switch it on for you now.


[#] Wed Sep 26 2018 22:32:35 EDT from Decomposed <>

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You are a scholar and a gentleman...

[#] Thu Sep 27 2018 15:35:15 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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...unlike JD Salinger, who was neither.

[#] Wed Oct 03 2018 11:37:07 EDT from fleeb <>

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But he did get generations of teenagers to read foul language for school assignments.