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This could be interesting. MicroStrategy, the world's largest publicly-traded business intelligence company, has swapped fiat currency for Bitcoin as its treasury reserve asset.
[ https://tinyurl.com/y2cbrba7 ]
In the press release, their CEO refers to Bitcoin as "digital gold", citing that they expect it to be more stable in the face of economic and health crises brought on by the China Virus and its cascading effects. I think they're expecting QE and the resulting inflation to make Bitcoin increasingly stable and valuable. He claims that "eventually every public company will do the same".
The amount of currency they've taken on amounts to approximately 0.1% of the world's Bitcoin supply.
Are we past the point where serious financiers consider Bitcoin to be snake oil, and governments consider it to be counterfeit?
Fri Aug 14 2020 06:04:11 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
This could be interesting. MicroStrategy, the world's largest publicly-traded business intelligence company, has swapped fiat currency for Bitcoin as its treasury reserve asset.
[ https://tinyurl.com/y2cbrba7 ]
In the press release, their CEO refers to Bitcoin as "digital gold", citing that they expect it to be more stable in the face of economic and health crises brought on by the China Virus and its cascading effects. I think they're expecting QE and the resulting inflation to make Bitcoin increasingly stable and valuable. He claims that "eventually every public company will do the same".
The amount of currency they've taken on amounts to approximately 0.1% of the world's Bitcoin supply.
Are we past the point where serious financiers consider Bitcoin to be snake oil, and governments consider it to be counterfeit?
I was wondering why the price spiked the past few days.
I am sadden the price is rising.
Naturally, we have to understand that cryptocurrency does have *some* element of fiat to it, because like a real fiat currency, it's only worth something because everyone agrees that it's worth something. Unlike conventional fiat currency, however, a government can't simply decide to print more of it and cause inflation.
A while back it was looking like there was significant evidence to suggest BTC price manipulation by a small, core group of traders. Cryptocurrency in general, and even BTC specific, may be far more vulnerable than you think.
The less popular crypto's are uniquely vulnerable: they aren't as attractive to miners. This puts them in a precarious position, in some cases, because miners possess large amounts of computing horsepower which can theoretically be redeployed on short notice to wherever the opportunity is best, i.e, whichever cryptocurrency is most profitable for mining at the moment because of its price dynamics.
If one of the smaller, less-traded and less-mined cryptocurrencies were to become uniquely unprofitable, miners might flee from it, shrinking the size of its mining pool. Then what happens next? A single large and well-funded mining group might possess enough computing horsepower to jump back in and control >50% of the deployed mining horsepower for that currency. They could then redirect their computer horsepower from mining other cryptos (or whatever other projects it's being used for) and control the quorum for that currency, rewriting its blockchain as they see fit.
Seems like less of a risk for BTC than the lesser-known cryptos, but there's no fundamental reason that BTC isn't vulnerable in the same way.
In that case it would seem to be a short-term obstacle to full adoption, but a long-term credibility boost for crypto, suggesting that if that chasm is eventually crossed, BTC would be a more stable currency than traditional fiat.
My liquid holdings will continue to be in USD for now, but if the future is a global currency, I would far rather see it be managed by the blockchain than by the UN.
Fri Aug 14 2020 06:04:11 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
This could be interesting. MicroStrategy, the world's largest publicly-traded business intelligence company, has swapped fiat currency for Bitcoin as its treasury reserve asset.
[ https://tinyurl.com/y2cbrba7 ]
After the announcement the many of the digital currency values started to rise.
https://coinranking.com/?sorton=price
As the pandemic was starting everyone said the prices would rise, it didn't seem to happen. The past week I have noticed the prices rising.
I think you need to create a Citade-coin.
Yearn Finance.... less than 30 days old, worth more than bitcoin.
Perhaps a digital currency room will soon be needed. If you don't know the digital currency markets never close, they operate 24 hours a day.
People talk about intrinsic value of gold as an example. Blah.
Food. Bullets. Hell, even nails may have more value in a meltdown.
I don't see bitcoin as being any more stable than any other currency in that sense.
It's been objectively less stable.
I find it ironic that the same people who *insist* that fiat currency is bad and that money must be inherently "something of value" then turn around and endorse BTC.
That's practically the definition of fiat currency. The only difference is that the value is assigned by consensus rather than by a government. I think that's ultimately a good thing because a government can't artificially inflate the money supply. And as I mentioned above, if there's going to be one world currency, it damn well better not be managed by an international terrorist cartel like the UN, or by international banksters, or by any organization at all.
For now, though, Bitcoin is kind of like IPv6 -- everyone agrees it's better, but no one is ready to fully commit to it yet, and that seems to be its quasi-perpetual state.
If someone can move all the digital currency related messages from Econometrica to this room that would be helpful.
Yearn.Finance reached $26,000+ today, and dropped to $25,000+
Yesterday, Fidelity filed paperwork with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) to create a new fund dedicated entirely to bitcoin, which will require a minimum investment of $100,000.
CEO of Onramp Invest, Tyrone Ross, notes Fidelity’s minimum investment size indicates “they have no immediate plans to expand into retail offerings, but rather want to focus on the higher end institutional side of the business.”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherbrookins/2020/08/27/fidelity-is-a-1000-pound-bitcoin-gorilla-in-the-making/#2ad3d804278f
difference is that the value is assigned by consensus rather than by a
government. I think that's ultimately a good thing because a
the consensus itself is an equilibrium subject to game-theoretic attacks
For now, though, Bitcoin is kind of like IPv6 -- everyone agrees it's
better, but no one is ready to fully commit to it yet, and that seems
"everyone"
the consensus itself is an equilibrium subject to game-theoretic
attacks
Not disagreeing with that. But it's still better than a conventional fiat where someone can just decide to inflate the currency "because they can".
In brief
Bitcoin has been labelled a currency, a commodity and an investment.
There are proponents and detractors on both sides.
The growth in futures trading as a proportion of Bitcoin's trading volume suggests most regard it as a commodity over a currency.
https://decrypt.co/47566/is-bitcoin-an-asset-a-commodity-or-a-currency
Which pretty much destroyed it for many of us. We wanted a digital currency, with a sense of stability.. ( and the huge network fees price it out of the 'micro transaction' market too "that will be 50 dollar fee for your 15 dollar pizza please" )
Mon Nov 09 2020 09:20:15 EST from zooermost regard it as a commodity over a currency.
Those are Chinese made mining computers. Could the Chinese have a backdoor built into the hardware so that the Chinese can grab all the coins when they are ready to?
Didn't you just expose the basic, universal issue with digital currency, regardless of it is the Chinese - or someone else?
Thu Dec 10 2020 14:45:19 EST from zooerThose are Chinese made mining computers. Could the Chinese have a backdoor built into the hardware so that the Chinese can grab all the coins when they are ready to?