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[#] Thu Oct 04 2018 08:51:53 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Proper way of migrating citadel installation?

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Hello! What's the proper way of migrating Citadel installation on
Ubuntu? Is compressing /usr/local/citadel and moving to a new server
enough?

If the source and destination servers are the same CPU architecture (for example, 64-bit x86) then yes, you can just copy /usr/local/citadel to the new server, then just run Easy Install on the new server and it'll set everything up for you.

If they are different architectures (for example, moving from ARM to Intel) then you have to use ctdlmigrate.

[#] Wed Oct 10 2018 20:09:14 EDT from userT @ Uncensored

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So if one wants to uninstall Citadel one just deletes the directories inside /usr.

But what happens to the systemd unit or system scripts used to start Citadel at boot? Shouldn't they be also deleted?

Thanks.

BTW, posted again in Development room.



[#] Thu Oct 11 2018 19:36:43 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: XMPP server

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TLS negotiation is successful, the initiating entity MUST
initiate a new stream by sending an opening XML stream header
to the receiving entity (it is not necessary to send a closing

Originally I thought that perhaps Citadel was mis-handling this, but it doesn't appear that this is the case. Citadel XMPP service responds to the client opening a new <stream> header by replying with a new <stream> header of its own.

Pidgin is working perfectly for me, so I'm interersted in hearing exactly how it's misbehaving for others. Hopefully there's just a tiny problem somewhere we can fix.

[#] Fri Oct 12 2018 16:08:23 EDT from PiratePTG @ Uncensored

Subject: CP/M Citadel 2.26

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I don't suppose anyone in here remembers how to set up Citadel 2.26 running on CP/M, do they?  I used to run Beta Mountain in Nashville, TN back in the 80's...  I still have all the hardware (Radio Shack Model 4, 128K, Montezuma Micro CP/M 2.2) and software (25 or so DSDD mini-floppies) but can't seem to get the old system to wake up and run...  I still have the BDS C compiler and linker, all of the source files, just can't seem to make this good old system operate...

 

I remember that there was a "startup sequence" that required a couple other programs to load before Citadel but I just don't remember what anymore...  I ran Beta Mountain straight from CP/M, not using Bye510, so know that isn't the problem...

 

Anyone?  Anyone?  Bueller?  Bueller??

 



[#] Sat Oct 13 2018 11:28:55 EDT from userT @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: XMPP server

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Thu Oct 11 2018 19:36:43 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: XMPP server
TLS negotiation is successful, the initiating entity MUST
initiate a new stream by sending an opening XML stream header
to the receiving entity (it is not necessary to send a closing

Originally I thought that perhaps Citadel was mis-handling this, but it doesn't appear that this is the case. Citadel XMPP service responds to the client opening a new <stream> header by replying with a new <stream> header of its own.

Pidgin is working perfectly for me, so I'm interersted in hearing exactly how it's misbehaving for others. Hopefully there's just a tiny problem somewhere we can fix.

Well, in my case I have been already describing how's failing for me at the Development room.
For Pidgin settings I'm following almost verbosely this article http://www.citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:everydayuse:jabber#configuring.a.jabber.client.to.access.citadel
And I say "almost verbosely" because of just 2 differences: I use my own account data obviously, and I can't use "allow plaintext auth" option due to what I describe below.

I just reviewed @ano 's past logs about the problem he currently has, and if I'm not wrong it's TLS related.
Last Pidgin version that still accepted non SSL/TLS connections was 2.7.3. From then onwards Pidgin no longer has those options; at most it has "use old-style SSL" option.
I'm using latest stable Pidgin, and certainly I had "invalid TLS certificate" errors at first (of course I don't have CA authority certs in the test server...).
A solution I found worky was downloading the server's own certificate either by exporting it through web browser (Firefox in my case), or by running in the server
openssl s_client -connect 192.168.1.2:5222 -starttls xmpp
whatever the case renaming the obtained file *exactly* like server's plain ip (for example, filename was exactly "192.168.1.2"), and finally copying the file to Pidgin's certificates directory.
Now this is only for Pidgin; I'm currently clueless about any other client...

Now, then Pidgin has always worked perfectly for you? Then could problem be actually on Citadel settings on my side?
I run easy install once a day, so I always have current Citadel release. Also, since first time install I use "internal user database" and created new users just like "a username" and "a password for username". No FQDNs, no email addresses (I even disabled Citadel's email ports because I don't use this function).
Any server's settings data I could show here in order to debug the problem?

IG, I see current discussion here and the one at Development room are very close related. Should we just leave them separated, or could we somehow "merge" discussions?



[#] Sun Oct 14 2018 05:10:38 EDT from winzlo @ Uncensored

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Answered in the development room. :)

[#] Tue Oct 16 2018 09:36:38 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: XMPP server

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If we're going to do protocol debugs and make adjustments in the code we can do that in the development room.

[#] Wed Oct 17 2018 10:33:07 EDT from dwomackcatt.com @ Uncensored

Subject: EasyInstall warnings

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Trying to use EasyInstall in latest Raspbian Pixel VM as test. 

The terminal window shows multiple warnings. Should I worry about these or just ignore. 

Thanks

 

Dennis



[#] Wed Oct 17 2018 17:10:07 EDT from dwomackcatt.com @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: EasyInstall warnings

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I ran EasyInstall a second time (reinstall) and everything seemed to install ok.  Strange.

 

Dennis

Wed Oct 17 2018 10:33:07 EDT from dwomackcatt.com @ Uncensored Subject: EasyInstall warnings

Trying to use EasyInstall in latest Raspbian Pixel VM as test. 

The terminal window shows multiple warnings. Should I worry about these or just ignore. 

Thanks

 

Dennis



 



[#] Thu Oct 18 2018 07:34:18 EDT from winzlo @ Uncensored

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I can't speak to easyinstall itself, but in general, warnings are the compiler's way of saying that you "really should do something", but as long as the compile succeeds with a return code of 0, then I think it's pretty safe to proceed.
However, my OCD would have me go back through terminal history and make a record of each warning, in case a future easyinstall (fresh install) encounters them, or worse - fails because they weren't given any attention.

[#] Thu Oct 18 2018 09:16:55 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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It's generally a good idea to address compiler warnings where possible, if you're the guy writing the code.

[#] Thu Oct 18 2018 11:30:41 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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It's an arms race between developers who try to fix code that generates compiler warnings, and compiler developers who find new things to warn about.

[#] Thu Oct 18 2018 13:15:48 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Sometimes.

I've also had warnings help me find problems that might have come up in some obscure run of the software that would have had me scratching my head for hours to figure out.

These days, I pay attention to the warnings in my code, and try to modify it to make the warning go away (or add comments to it to explain that the warning was considered and should be ignored). At least, I have found it works for me.

[#] Sun Oct 21 2018 14:32:38 EDT from hyperanalysis @ Uncensored

Subject: citmail: can't connect: No such file or directory

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Hey all,

 

Having a really weird issue with my citadel installation - everything runs fine, I can use the web interface to login, send and receive mail, and also do the same from any mail client using SMTP/IMAP.

 

The issue is trying to send mail from the command line on the server, either manually or when any application tries to use it (such as logwatch), I just keep getting:

 

"citmail: can't connect: No such file or directory"

 

Anyone have any idea what's going on and how to fix it?

 

Many thanks,

Iain.



[#] Wed Oct 24 2018 07:41:40 EDT from dwomackcatt.com @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: EasyInstall warnings

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Preferred email address in preferences doesn't seem to be getting set. How can I fix it? version running Citadel 923 with WebCit 921

It did get set in version 8.24.

Thanks

 

 

Wed Oct 17 2018 17:10:07 EDT from dwomackcatt.com @ Uncensored Subject: Re: EasyInstall warnings

I ran EasyInstall a second time (reinstall) and everything seemed to install ok.  Strange.

 

Dennis

Wed Oct 17 2018 10:33:07 EDT from dwomackcatt.com @ Uncensored Subject: EasyInstall warnings

Trying to use EasyInstall in latest Raspbian Pixel VM as test. 

The terminal window shows multiple warnings. Should I worry about these or just ignore. 

Thanks

 

Dennis



 



 



[#] Wed Oct 24 2018 16:52:41 EDT from dwomackcatt.com @ Uncensored

Subject: Citadel and letsencrypt

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Has anybody used letsencrypt to generate the certificates for Citadel and WebCit?

Got a writeup on how you did it?

I have a RaspberryPi running version Citadel and WebCit, both version 8.24.

The Pi is behind an Untangle next gen firewall/router and DDNS is setup.  The necessary ports are pointed to the Pi.

When I first connect the Mail program on the Mac or the phone, it complains about the certificate.  I just tell it to accept the certificate and things work fine.

I am trying to fix the problem so relatives can use email accounts on the Citadel server.

Thanks for your help.

 

Dennis

 



[#] Thu Oct 25 2018 09:51:52 EDT from hyperanalysis @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: citmail: can't connect: No such file or directory

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Sun Oct 21 2018 14:32:38 EDT from hyperanalysis @ Uncensored Subject: citmail: can't connect: No such file or directory

Hey all,

 

Having a really weird issue with my citadel installation - everything runs fine, I can use the web interface to login, send and receive mail, and also do the same from any mail client using SMTP/IMAP.

 

The issue is trying to send mail from the command line on the server, either manually or when any application tries to use it (such as logwatch), I just keep getting:

 

"citmail: can't connect: No such file or directory"

 

Anyone have any idea what's going on and how to fix it?

 

Many thanks,

Iain.



Hey everyone,

So I managed to fix the issue, looks to have been a corrupt symlink.

Looking at the instructions at http://www.citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:installation:does_citadel_have

The specific instructions which did the trick was:

cd /usr/local/citadel 
cd /usr/sbin 
mv sendmail sendmail.OLD 
ln -s /usr/local/citadel/citmail ./sendmail 

Which correctly set the symlink - previously for some strange reason sendmail was pointing to just 'citmail' rather than the full path '/usr/local/citadel/citmail'.

Cheers,

Iain.



[#] Thu Nov 01 2018 10:13:20 EDT from alhemix @ Uncensored

Subject: A TLS/ssl problem

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Hello friends. I got a small problem with TLS/SSL in my Citadel configuration. I'm quite new in mail administration so please be gentle :)

I successfully added lets encrypt certificate to my citweb server. It works fine in web service. I added also these certificates to a citadel server. I wanted to use them to encrypt mail. But gmail said i didnt encrypt it even if i added it in localization this tutorial said:

http://www.citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:systemadmin:how_to_install_a_certificate_signed_by_a_recognized_certificate_authority

Maybe i do something wrong or i miss something. Or just it is possible that i cannot use this certificates to encrypt mails?

Just can you a little help me and lead to answer?



[#] Fri Nov 02 2018 11:26:04 EDT from Freejack @ Uncensored

Subject: Citadel Mail Server won't start.............

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Interesting thing is it started last night. the status is this .......

 

Nov 02 10:17:40 citadel citserver[745]: Connecting to clamd at <127.0.0.1>
Nov 02 10:17:40 citadel citserver[745]: 127.0.0.1: Connection refused
Nov 02 10:17:40 citadel citserver[745]: Connecting to SpamAssassin at <127.0.0.1>
Nov 02 10:17:40 citadel citserver[745]: 127.0.0.1: Connection refused
Nov 02 10:17:40 citadel citserver[745]: Connecting to clamd at <127.0.0.1>
Nov 02 10:17:40 citadel citserver[745]: 127.0.0.1: Connection refused
Nov 02 10:17:41 citadel citserver[745]: 24546: from=<client@mmsend30.com>, nrcpts=1, relay=send1.mmsend76.com [209.18.93.2], stat=250 Message accepted.
Nov 02 10:17:41 citadel citserver[745]: context: [  1]SRV[SMTP-MTA] Session ended.
Nov 02 10:17:51 citadel citserver[745]: 24547: from=<landsend@email.landsend.com>, nrcpts=1, relay=landsend.outbound-4.postdirect.com [206.165.241.79], stat=250 Message accepted.
Nov 02 10:17:56 citadel citserver[745]: db: cdb_fetch(9): BDB0075 DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found

 

So it appears I will run the db cleanup and see........ If anyone has any ideas they are much appreciated. This mail server is in a small attorneys office.



[#] Fri Nov 02 2018 11:48:29 EDT from nristen @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Citadel and letsencrypt

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I use letsencrypt to generate certs for Citadel and Webcit.  You have to stop the webcit process while running letsencrypt - letsencrypt would also have to be run on the pi where citadel is running as well.

Wed Oct 24 2018 04:52:41 PM EDT from dwomackcatt.com @ Uncensored Subject: Citadel and letsencrypt

Has anybody used letsencrypt to generate the certificates for Citadel and WebCit?

Got a writeup on how you did it?

I have a RaspberryPi running version Citadel and WebCit, both version 8.24.

The Pi is behind an Untangle next gen firewall/router and DDNS is setup.  The necessary ports are pointed to the Pi.

When I first connect the Mail program on the Mac or the phone, it complains about the certificate.  I just tell it to accept the certificate and things work fine.

I am trying to fix the problem so relatives can use email accounts on the Citadel server.

Thanks for your help.

 

Dennis

 



 



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