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[#] Thu Feb 22 2018 13:03:41 EST from bobdoe @ Uncensored

Subject: Calendar problems

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Does citadel have shared calendar functions?

I tried adding a new event in calendar for a standard level 4 user, but the attendees button never works! The attendees tab also never displays citadel users to include; only current user's contacts.

Also, when adding events I notice the event appears "delay" shifted in the day view. Meaning, if I set event from 14:00 to 16:00, the hours are saved correctly but in the day view graphic appears like 13:00 to 15:00.

Using citadel 917 and tried with latest firefox browser.

 



[#] Thu Feb 22 2018 13:21:56 EST from bobdoe @ Uncensored

Subject: Chat problems

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Using citadel 917 installed from easy-install, multiple issues found!

 

--I can't find where chat history/logs are saved for each user. I have "Log all pages" disabled, so according to docs only sender and receiver should receive copies of their conversations. Where are they saved? How can each user access their message logs!?

 

--WTH is the "chat" room for? Even with multiple users currently online if user enters this chat room only sees him/herself! Messages are aimed to nothing! I expected this to be a *real* chat room where users could join and chat.

 

--Configuring pidgin did not work. I followed the doc "Configuring a jabber client for citadel".

Protocol: xmpp

Username: user's username

Domain: my ip address xx.xx.xx.xx

Resource: left in blank (doesn't make any difference)

Password: user's password; checked "remember password"

In Advanced tab checked "allow plaintext auth..." and left default port 5222, just like configured in citadel server.

But in latest pidgin now it forces to choose one of 3 ssl options. "Ask for certificate" and "use certificate when possible" don't work, pidgin pops error "invalid certificate". Third option, "use old ssl", does not pop the error and lets account to be enabled, but it does nothing! Message options such as send new instant message are usable, but status always gets stuck in "connecting", no users appear at all, neither online nor offline, and sent messages aimed to a user never arrive.



[#] Thu Feb 22 2018 13:23:53 EST from bobdoe @ Uncensored

Subject: Irc channel

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What happens to the irc channel at freenode?

Do you no longer make use of it?



[#] Thu Feb 22 2018 15:22:48 EST from "Marisa Giancarla" <fstltna@yahoo.com> to room_Citadel_Support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: Backup script for citadel

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After thinking about it I don't think switching to using the day of the week is a good idea. That would only allow one backup per day, and if you manually ran a backup it is possible you would be overwriting your good backup instead of needing to run five of them to overwrite the good backup.

Is there a place I can post about this tool so people can find it?


On Feb 21, 2018, at 7:08 PM, IGnatius T Foobar <ajc@citadel.org> wrote:

I like that you're thinking about the problem and coming up with a thoughtful
solution, one that takes into consideration the fact that you want to rotate
your backups, cull the logs after the backup, etc.

I do have a couple of suggestions:

1. Instead of rotating the backup names, you might consider just including
the day of the week in your backup filenames.  That way you automatically
get seven days of backups, and then they get overwritten without you having
to rotate them.

2. If you're using the newest version of Citadel, you might consider only
doing backups of /usr/local/citadel/data instead of the whole tree.  That
will just give you the database.  For added safety, have your script back
up /usr/local/citadel/data/cdb.* and *then* /usr/local/citadel/data/log.*
after that.  This is what Berkeley DB recommends.




[#] Thu Feb 22 2018 17:11:13 EST from bobdoe @ Uncensored

Subject: Calendar problems

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Does citadel have shared calendar functions?

I tried adding a new event in calendar for a standard level 4 user, but the attendees button never works! The attendees tab also never displays citadel users to include; only current user's contacts.

Also, when adding events I notice the event appears "delay" shifted in the day view. Meaning, if I set event from 14:00 to 16:00, the hours are saved correctly but in the day view graphic appears like 13:00 to 15:00.

Using citadel 917 installed through easy-install and tried with latest firefox browser.



[#] Thu Feb 22 2018 17:14:04 EST from bobdoe @ Uncensored

Subject: Chat issues

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Using citadel 917 installed from easy-install.

 

--I can't find where chat history/logs are saved for each user. I have "Log all pages" disabled, so according to docs only sender and receiver should receive copies of their conversations. Where are they saved? How can each user access their message logs?

 

--WTH is the "chat" room for in webcit? Even with multiple users currently online if user enters this chat room only sees him/herself! Messages are aimed to nothing. I expected this to be a *real* chat room where users could join and chat.

 

--Configuring pidgin for chat client did not work. I followed the doc "Configuring a jabber client for citadel".

Protocol: xmpp

Username: user's username

Domain: my ip address xx.xx.xx.xx

Resource: left in blank (doesn't make any difference)

Password: user's password; checked "remember password"

In Advanced tab checked "allow plaintext auth..." and left default port 5222, just like configured in citadel server.

But in latest pidgin now it forces to choose one of 3 ssl options. "Ask for certificate" and "use certificate when possible" don't work, pidgin pops error "invalid certificate". Third option, "use old ssl", does not pop the error and lets account to be enabled, but it does nothing! Message options such as send new instant message are usable, but status always gets stuck in "connecting", no users appear at all, neither online nor offline, and sent messages aimed to a user never arrive.



[#] Fri Feb 23 2018 11:54:44 EST from nbewhm4 @ Uncensored

Subject: easy install failed

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I tried this command (running as root):

curl http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | sh

Eventually I got this error:
* Downloading libcitadel...
* Installing libcitadel...
  Complete.
* Downloading Citadel...
* Installing Citadel...
 
Citadel Easy Install is aborting.
 
A log file has been written to /tmp/citadel-install-log.txt
Reading this file may tell you what went wrong. If you
need to ask for help on the support forum, please post the
last screenful of text from this log.
 
 
At the end of the .txt log file I got:
......
checking libcitadel.h usability... yes
checking libcitadel.h presence... yes
checking for libcitadel.h... yes
checking for libcitadel_version_string in -lcitadel... yes
checking for OpenSSL... (system)
checking for db_create in -ldb... yes
checking ldap.h usability... no
checking ldap.h presence... no
checking for ldap.h... no
configure: error: OpenLDAP development headers were not found and are required.  More info: http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/installation:start
Operating system: Linux Debian 9.3 ( 4.9.59-v7+ armv7l)
 
I'm at a loss as to what to try next.... Any helpful suggestions please?
 


[#] Fri Feb 23 2018 12:01:00 EST from bobdoe @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: easy install failed

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Fri Feb 23 2018 11:54:44 AM EST from nbewhm4 @ Uncensored Subject: easy install failed

I tried this command (running as root):

curl http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | sh

Eventually I got this error:
* Downloading libcitadel...
* Installing libcitadel...
  Complete.
* Downloading Citadel...
* Installing Citadel...
 
Citadel Easy Install is aborting.
 
A log file has been written to /tmp/citadel-install-log.txt
Reading this file may tell you what went wrong. If you
need to ask for help on the support forum, please post the
last screenful of text from this log.
 
 
At the end of the .txt log file I got:
......
checking libcitadel.h usability... yes
checking libcitadel.h presence... yes
checking for libcitadel.h... yes
checking for libcitadel_version_string in -lcitadel... yes
checking for OpenSSL... (system)
checking for db_create in -ldb... yes
checking ldap.h usability... no
checking ldap.h presence... no
checking for ldap.h... no
configure: error: OpenLDAP development headers were not found and are required.  More info: http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/installation:start
Operating system: Linux Debian 9.3 ( 4.9.59-v7+ armv7l)
 
I'm at a loss as to what to try next.... Any helpful suggestions please?
 


apt install libldap2-dev

run easy-install again

 

citadel documentation should be updated, but webmaster most likely doesn't give a damn



[#] Fri Feb 23 2018 12:10:17 EST from bobdoe @ Uncensored

Subject: Irc channel

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What happens to the irc channel at freenode?

Is it no longer used, or was never?



[#] Fri Feb 23 2018 12:12:18 EST from bobdoe @ Uncensored

Subject: Calendar issues

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Using citadel 917 installed through easy-install and using latest firefox browser.



--I tried adding a new event in calendar for a standard level 4 user, but the attendees button never works! The attendees tab also never displays citadel users to include; only current user's contacts.

Does citadel have any shared calendar functions?



--Also, when adding events I notice the event appears "delay" shifted in the day view. Meaning, if I set event from 14:00 to 16:00, the hours are saved correctly but in the day view graphic appears like 13:00 to 15:00.



[#] Fri Feb 23 2018 12:14:07 EST from bobdoe @ Uncensored

Subject: Chat problems

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Using citadel 917 installed from easy-install.

 


--WTH is the "chat" room for in webcit? Even with multiple users currently online if user enters this chat room only sees him/herself! Messages are aimed to nothing. I expected this to be a *real* chat room where users could join and chat.

 


--Configuring pidgin for chat client did not work. I followed the doc "Configuring a jabber client for citadel".

Protocol: xmpp

Username: user's username

Domain: my ip address xx.xx.xx.xx

Resource: left in blank (doesn't make any difference)

Password: user's password; checked "remember password"

In Advanced tab checked "allow plaintext auth..." and left default port 5222, just like configured in citadel server.

But in latest pidgin now it forces to choose one of 3 ssl options. "Ask for certificate" and "use certificate when possible" don't work, pidgin pops error "invalid certificate". Third option, "use old ssl", does not pop the error and lets account to be enabled, but it does nothing! Message options such as send new instant message are usable, but status always gets stuck in "connecting", no users appear at all, neither online nor offline, and sent messages aimed to a user never arrive.



[#] Fri Feb 23 2018 12:51:23 EST from nbewhm4 @ Uncensored

Subject: easy install failed

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I tried this command (running as root):

curl http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | sh

Eventually I got this error:
* Downloading libcitadel...
* Installing libcitadel...
  Complete.
* Downloading Citadel...
* Installing Citadel...
 
Citadel Easy Install is aborting.
 
A log file has been written to /tmp/citadel-install-log.txt
Reading this file may tell you what went wrong. If you
need to ask for help on the support forum, please post the
last screenful of text from this log.
 
 
At the end of the .txt log file I got:
......
checking libcitadel.h usability... yes
checking libcitadel.h presence... yes
checking for libcitadel.h... yes
checking for libcitadel_version_string in -lcitadel... yes
checking for OpenSSL... (system)
checking for db_create in -ldb... yes
checking ldap.h usability... no
checking ldap.h presence... no
checking for ldap.h... no
configure: error: OpenLDAP development headers were not found and are required.  More info: http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/installation:start
Operating system: Linux Debian 9.3 ( 4.9.59-v7+ armv7l)
 
I'm at a loss as to what to try next.... Any helpful suggestions please?
 


[#] Fri Feb 23 2018 13:50:10 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: easy install failed

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configure: error: OpenLDAP development headers were not found and are required.  More info: http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/installation:start
Operating system: Linux Debian 9.3 ( 4.9.59-v7+ armv7l)
 
I'm at a loss as to what to try next.... Any helpful suggestions please?

apt-get install libldap2-dev

 



[#] Fri Feb 23 2018 14:33:24 EST from bobdoe @ Uncensored

Subject: Irc channel

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What happens to the irc channel at freenode?
Is it no longer used, or was never?



[#] Fri Feb 23 2018 14:35:15 EST from bobdoe @ Uncensored

Subject: Calendar issues

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Using citadel 917 installed through easy-install and using latest firefox browser.

--I tried adding a new event in calendar for a standard level 4 user, but the attendees button never works! The attendees tab also never displays citadel users to include, only current user's contacts, and global address book in case I use aide user.

And even if adding attendees, they're never ever saved!
Does citadel have any shared calendar functions?


--Also, when adding events I notice the event appears "delay" shifted in the day view. Meaning, if I set event from 14:00 to 16:00, the hours are saved correctly but in the day view graphic appears like 13:00 to 15:00.



[#] Fri Feb 23 2018 14:40:46 EST from bobdoe @ Uncensored

Subject: Chat problems

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Using citadel 917 installed from easy-install.

--WTH is the "chat" room for in webcit? Even with multiple users currently online if user enters this chat room only sees him/herself! Messages are aimed to nothing. I expected this to be a *real* chat room where users could join and chat.


--Configuring pidgin for chat client simply does not work. I followed the doc "Configuring a jabber client for citadel".

Protocol: xmpp
Username: user's username
Domain: server's ip address xx.xx.xx.xx
Resource: left in blank (doesn't make any difference)
Password: user's password; checked "remember password"
In Advanced tab checked "allow plaintext auth..." and left default port 5222, just like configured in citadel server.

But latest pidgin now it forces to choose one of 3 ssl options. "Ask for certificate" and "use certificate when possible" don't work, pidgin pops error "invalid certificate". Third option, "use old ssl", does not pop the error and lets account to be enabled, but it does nothing! Status always gets stuck in "connecting", no users appear at all, neither online nor offline, and sent messages aimed to a user never arrive.

Latest jitsi chat client doesn't work neither, though this one at least pops the error "unable to connect".

I already tried changing citadel's xmpp port from 5222 to 5223. Disabled firewalld in citadel server, which uses Centos 7. Not working neither. Tried pidgin and jitsi on windows, btw.

ANY HELP please?



[#] Fri Feb 23 2018 14:54:21 EST from Haven @ Uncensored

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The chat last time I played with it, allowed mutiple users to go into it in the same room, and have near real time communications, like IRC with each other.   However it does require more than one user to be there, like IRC.  If there is only one user there then it is just like you describe, just like IRC.  



[#] Fri Feb 23 2018 15:43:16 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Chat problems

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bobdoe: please RTFM http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html before looking for any further assistance, and above all, STOP private messaging anyone who happens to wander in. UNCENSORED! is a general purpose community, and supporting the Citadel software is only a small portion of what we do here.

[#] Fri Feb 23 2018 16:01:05 EST from bobdoe @ Uncensored

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Ignatus:

I **already read all the freaking manuals at citadel.org**, and docs have WAY MUCH holes that have never been patched.

Examples: wiki pages creation, easy-install now requiring openldap dev packages, there's little to no documentation regarding whole calendar-ing, and as far as I just tested, chat docs are outdated -chat clients now force ask TLS-



[#] Fri Feb 23 2018 19:16:15 EST from AdeV @ Uncensored

Subject: TDAP killing my Citadel server

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Hi all,

A while back I posted about the TDAP process (at least, I think it's TDAP) on my Citadel server going mental & eating all the disk space on the server over the course of an hour (or less). When everything crashed due to lack of disk space, I could recover the DB back to working order with the berkerly DB recovery tools. The issue appears to be TDAP trying to purge a particularly large number of e-mails which ended up in one account (ahem, an account I didn't even know existed! but that's by the by). I "fixed" it by turning off message expiry on the affected account, and just ignoring the 1.2m e-mails in it (if I ever tried to delete any of them, TDAP crashed the server as described).

Anyway, fast-forward to around Christmas 2017, and as a result of the spectre/meltdown fiasco, I send a bulk e-mail out from one of the forums hosted on the server (which used Citadel as its mail provider), and suddenly TDAP is killing the server again. And this time, I can't stop it. Every time I start Citadel up, it runs for about 15 minutes, then dies having eaten all the disk space (requiring the DB recovery as described above). Restart Citadel. Rinse and repeat until thoroughly disheartened.

As a result of this I've sadly had to move away from the easy-to-administer Citadel, to a more "normal" setup (postfix/dovecot), and now that's all settled down... I really need to get the last 5 years e-mails out of Citadel & onto the replacement server. I'd use an IMAP transfer tool/service - but I can't keep Citadel running long enough to transfer a significant number of emails; and every time it trashes the disk, it takes several websites down with it. My plan is to kick up a new machine (once I've got some hard disks & stuff sorted out), install Citadel again, copy in the broken database, and try again from there (so at least it won't murder the websites on the VM server I use); but last time I tried this using the biggest Linode server money can buy (2TB disk space), Citadel used the whole damn disk up within 24hrs!

 

So - my question is: Is there any way to disable the TDAP process in Citadel? So I can run the server long enough to extract all my e-mails?

 

Cheers!
Ade.



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