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[#] Sun Jan 21 2018 10:58:07 EST from Spareparts @ Uncensored

Subject: Citadel & Modems

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Hi Folks - I have Citadel running in the lab, and have a question:  Anyone still have a modem pool in use?  

I was considering connecting my two antique computers (TRS-80 M3 and a C64) to the citadel install via modem.  Modems would connect via an Avaya TDM PBX (no SIP involved) so it should work.

 

I'm stumbling through the docs trying to figure out the citadel modem part

SP

 



[#] Sun Jan 21 2018 17:33:01 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Citadel & Modems

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That's a really cool sounding project. 99% of the work will not be done within Citadel, even if Citadel is the primary application to which you want your retro computers to connect.

The trick is to make your Linux system answer connections on the modem lines.
To do this you have to set up a "getty" program to answer incoming calls on the modem. The most popular getty for Linux and standard modems is called "mgetty". You can do a web search for that program and there are plenty of tutorials out there.

Once a modem user connects to your Linux system, they will get a "login:" prompt, just like on the system console. You can either put a banner telling users to log in as a specific user (such as "bbs") to start Citadel, or you can configure mgetty to go directly into Citadel, in the same way modern systems send telnet connections directly into Citadel.

Have fun with your project!

[#] Mon Jan 22 2018 11:28:04 EST from bobdoe @ Uncensored

Subject: wiki

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In order to use the wiki function, should it be a default "room" already existing, or must one create it?



[#] Mon Jan 22 2018 17:29:21 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: wiki

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There are many different kinds of rooms you can create. Wiki is one of them.
So yes, you have to create a new room, and configure it as a Wiki at creation time.

[#] Tue Jan 23 2018 15:04:02 EST from mhan @ Uncensored

Subject: Link email services to citadel

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How do I link my email services from my domain (eg. testing.net) to Citadel

Currently the host display as un-assigned.anything.com



[#] Tue Jan 23 2018 15:05:55 EST from mhan @ Uncensored

Subject: Link email services to citadel

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How do I link my email services from my domain (eg. testing.net) to Citadel

Currently the host display as un-assigned.anything.com



[#] Tue Jan 23 2018 15:06:13 EST from mhan @ Uncensored

Subject: Link email services to citadel

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How do I link my email services from my domain (eg. testing.net) to Citadel

Currently the host display as un-assigned.anything.com



[#] Tue Jan 23 2018 17:34:21 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Link email services to citadel

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How do I link my email services from my domain (eg. testing.net) to
Citadel

Currently the host display as un-assigned.anything.com

1. Edit your site configuration and set the FQDN of your server to an appropriate name
2. Edit your Citadel server's Internet configuration and enter the domain(s) at which you plan to receive mail
3. Configure your domain's DNS to point the MX records to your Citadel server.

That's about it.

[#] Fri Jan 26 2018 18:55:57 EST from bgerum @ Uncensored

Subject: citadel refuses to start after OpenSuSE upgrade - cursor still in prog

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Hello,

I just upgraded my openSuSE Server from 13.1 to LEAP 42.3 ... yes, I know I'm skipping several versions, but I managed to get all services running again except citadel.

citserver is exiting with this error:

cursor still in progress on cdb 04

Here is the complete log:
Loading citadel.config citserver[2909]: master_startup() started citserver[2909]: Opening databases citserver[2909]: bdb(): open_databases() starting citserver[2909]: Compiled db: Berkeley DB 4.8.30: (October 21, 2013) citserver[2909]: Linked db: Berkeley DB 4.8.30: (October 21, 2013) citserver[2909]: Calculated dbversion: 4008030 citserver[2909]: Previous dbversion: 4008030 citserver[2909]: Linked zlib: 1.2.8 citserver[2909]: bdb(): Setting up DB environment citserver[2909]: dbenv->open(dbenv, /var/lib/citadel/data/, 10899, 0) citserver[2909]: DB: Finding last valid log LSN: file: 6494 offset 9354997 citserver[2909]: DB: Recovery starting from [6494][9354869] citserver[2909]: DB: Recovery complete at Sat Jan 27 00:30:50 2018 citserver[2909]: DB: Maximum transaction ID 80000024 Recovery checkpoint [6494][9354997] citserver[2909]: Starting up DB citserver[2909]: Checking floor reference counts citserver[2909]: bdb(): cursor still in progress on cdb 04: can't begin transaction during r/o cursor citserver[2909]: citserver is stopping in order to prevent data loss. uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 egid=0

I'm using citadel-8.24-12.2.x86_64
MariaDB 10.0.32

Any help would be appreciated.

Kind regards,
bgerum


[#] Sat Jan 27 2018 19:56:08 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Ðis isn't ðe right place for ðose kind of questions.
You should try ðe "Citadel Support" room instead.

[#] Sat Jan 27 2018 19:57:22 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Ah... well now I know that Citadel's editor may read eth and thorn, but it won't recognize and write it into the message properly.

But, I'll write it up where it belongs.

[#] Sat Jan 27 2018 20:01:47 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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So, I tried something nifty just now that didn't quite work as expected.

Environment:

Citadel client on Ubuntu from an apt-get.

Uncensored server as of today.

Steps used to reproduce:

1. On Ubuntu, run 'screen' (installing it of needed).
2. From the screen session, run 'citadel uncensored.citadel.org'.
3. After logging in, tap 'E' to create a message.
4. Within the message, tap ^a, then ^v, then d, then -. You'll see a character appear on your screen that looks like a 'd' with a horizontal stroke at the top of it.
5. Save the message.
6. View the message.

Expected result:

Message shows as you typed it.

Actual result:

Message doesn't have the correct character. Instead, it appears to have two space characters in its place.

[#] Sat Jan 27 2018 22:50:13 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: citadel refuses to start after OpenSuSE upgrade - cursor still in prog

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I'm using citadel-8.24-12.2.x86_64
MariaDB 10.0.32

Citadel 824 is positively ancient and cannot be supported ... that might be the problem right there. Please upgrade.

By the way, Citadel doesn't use MariaDB, so that's not part of the issue.
Citadel uses Berkeley DB (libdb).

[#] Sun Jan 28 2018 16:11:57 EST from bgerum @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: citadel refuses to start after OpenSuSE upgrade - cursor still in prog

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Dear Ignatius,

thanks for the reply. Unfortunately it seems the last version supplied by the homueller SuSE repo which is linked in the citadel.org doku ist 824.

Is there another rpm source?

The libdb Version on my system is 4.8.30

 

 

 

Sat Jan 27 2018 22:50:13 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: citadel refuses to start after OpenSuSE upgrade - cursor still in prog
I'm using citadel-8.24-12.2.x86_64
MariaDB 10.0.32

Citadel 824 is positively ancient and cannot be supported ... that might be the problem right there. Please upgrade.

By the way, Citadel doesn't use MariaDB, so that's not part of the issue.
Citadel uses Berkeley DB (libdb).

 



[#] Sun Jan 28 2018 21:39:07 EST from travisr @ Uncensored

Subject: Smart Host Auth

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I am trying to setup a new email server (Actually trying to get off my old one to this one)

After quite a hard time, i seem to be about 95% of the way there. I have the same question as @oliverg did on Dec 17th, but i did not find that anyone replied.

i'm trying to use smart host authentication. this is how i get around my port 25 blocking, and this is how they handle my dynamic IP address.

The user name they use is an email address, but when i try to enter this in the smart host configuration, it doesn't seem to recognize it properly and doesnt send any traffic out when i try and send an email. just to make sure i used a junk username and password and tried to send email.

smtp://user123:abc123@SmartHost.net:2525

i saw that traffic in my firewall just fine. Connection closed with a tcp-fin to the correct destination IP. So i know my other settings are fine. now when I change just the username to the mail address, the server stops even trying to connect to the smart host

smtp://ME@MYDOMAIN.COM:abc123@SmartHost.net:2525

I've tried putting it in double quotes, single quotes brackets and a couple other things i can't remember. Is there any ways to get Citadel to pass an email address and the user name?

I am running Citadel 917 with WebCit 917, server build 917

I appreciate any help I could get on this one, Thanks!



[#] Mon Jan 29 2018 13:35:33 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: citadel refuses to start after OpenSuSE upgrade - cursor still in prog

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thanks for the reply. Unfortunately it seems the last version supplied by
the
homueller SuSE repo which is linked in the citadel.org doku ist 824.


Is there another rpm source?

I'm not aware of another RPM source. You could switch to Easy Install, which works on all distributions, but you'll have to move your data files to another directory first.

[#] Mon Jan 29 2018 13:39:31 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Smart Host Auth

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i saw that traffic in my firewall just fine. Connection closed with a
tcp-fin to the correct destination IP. So i know my other settings
are fine. now when I change just the username to the mail address,
the server stops even trying to connect to the smart host

The short answer is that the string you put in for your smart-host gets fed into libcurl as the CURLOPT_URL. Citadel Server since version 910 has started using libcurl to do all of the outbound protocol handling, so whatever libcurl accepts, we accept.

What you can do to troubleshoot, is run citserver with the highest level of logging (using the -x9 option) and filter the log for lines beginning with "smtpclient:" to see what it's doing. I'm pretty sure it *does* accept a username with "@" in it.

[#] Mon Jan 29 2018 18:34:53 EST from bgerum @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: citadel refuses to start after OpenSuSE upgrade - cursor still in prog

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Mon Jan 29 2018 13:35:33 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: citadel refuses to start after OpenSuSE upgrade - cursor still in prog
thanks for the reply. Unfortunately it seems the last version supplied by
the
homueller SuSE repo which is linked in the citadel.org doku ist 824.


Is there another rpm source?

I'm not aware of another RPM source. You could switch to Easy Install, which works on all distributions, but you'll have to move your data files to another directory first.

I used the Easy Install a long time ago, but the RPM version ist much more integrated in the OpenSuSE environment, not only directory-wise but also regarding startscripts, updating etc.

Do you think you could give Mr. homueller a hint there are new citadel versions out there? 



[#] Mon Jan 29 2018 20:11:37 EST from travisr @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Smart Host Auth

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Mon Jan 29 2018 13:39:31 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Smart Host Auth
i saw that traffic in my firewall just fine. Connection closed with a
tcp-fin to the correct destination IP. So i know my other settings
are fine. now when I change just the username to the mail address,
the server stops even trying to connect to the smart host

The short answer is that the string you put in for your smart-host gets fed into libcurl as the CURLOPT_URL. Citadel Server since version 910 has started using libcurl to do all of the outbound protocol handling, so whatever libcurl accepts, we accept.

What you can do to troubleshoot, is run citserver with the highest level of logging (using the -x9 option) and filter the log for lines beginning with "smtpclient:" to see what it's doing. I'm pretty sure it *does* accept a username with "@" in it.

OK, thank you for the reply. I understand basically what you are saying, but I might need a little nudge on doing it right.

I did some googling and I checked the Citadel Documentation but I'm a tad stuck.

I did "ls /etc/init.d" and saw the citadel file. I then did "cat /etc/init.d/citadel" and saw that this seemed to be the file i need to edit. Im just not sure where to put the -x9 command switch I think here at the end?:
CITADEL_DIR=/usr/local/citadel -x9

Or would it be here?:

case "$1" in

start)          echo -n "Starting Citadel... "
                if $CITADEL_DIR/citserver -d -h$CITADEL_DIR -x9

I'm not the best a Linux obviously, but I've done OK so far with what I do know and google. If it helps, this is on a raspberry Pi where I also installed Pi-Hole. I only need this for 3 mail boxes (might grow to 5 or so) and I'm trying to ditch an old server with exchange.

After add the -x9 i just restart the Pi right? then where does it save the logs?

Again, I appreciate anything you can help me with. I'm pretty sure this is the last part I need to make this all function.



[#] Mon Jan 29 2018 21:22:55 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Smart Host Auth

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I did "ls /etc/init.d" and saw the citadel file. I then did "cat
/etc/init.d/citadel" and saw that this seemed to be the file i need
to edit. Im just not sure where to put the -x9 command switch I think
here at the end?:

Try this, if you can tolerate a few minutes of downtime:

First stop the running server by doing:

/etc/init.d/citadel stop

Once your server shuts down, you can run it in the foreground:

cd /usr/local/citadel
./citserver -x9

That way, you can watch everything it's doing. If you want to filter the output:

./citserver -x9 2>&1 | grep smtpclient:

You can stop the server by pressing Ctrl-C and waiting for it to clean up and stop, then run it in the background again with:

/etc/init.d/citadel start

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