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I dont think he wants to delete he wants to mark as read, and its not working like it did for me in the GUI, after the purger went sideways.
Nevermind. delete this ( no pun ).. i was thinking the wrong post
I should go to bed.
I dont think he wants to delete he wants to mark as read, and its not working like it did for me in the GUI, after the purger went sideways.
One of the advantage of moving to an SQL backend like Postgres is that
it would do full-text indexing for you, possibly better than a
True. We would have to consider that carefully though, because it would create a dependency. I know that our current indexer is sort of naive. It gets the job done, but it's not ultra-sophisticated. I suppose we could go to "you don't get indexing unless you use so-and-so backend" if we get to that point.
And that's the issue in general with the whole SQL database thing: how to keep supporting the thousands of existing Citadel installations that are currently running the Berkeley DB back end while developing features that require a SQL back end. It isn't going to be easy.
That doesn't mean I'm not willing to do it, but it is -- as they say in business jargon -- "a big lift".
Subject: Re: Unable to delete messages
Maybe this is your case and you should delete/reset those settings for the webcit page.
In firefox I don't remember if it is from the shield icon next to the URL.
In chrome it is the padlock and "Site settings".
You can try from different browsers to check if the problem is only with your current browser.
I hope I'm in the right place.
I have Citadel working well. However, I am totally unable to delete mail from any room within Webcit. I think I may have clicked something so as not to allow Webcit to prompt me to confirm deletions.
I really would rather not have to reinstall!
Many thanks
And that's the issue in general with the whole SQL database thing: how
to keep supporting the thousands of existing Citadel installations that
are currently running the Berkeley DB back end while developing
features that require a SQL back end. It isn't going to be easy.
Yeah. "Just throwing it out there", really.
There has been some talk about moving Citadel to SQL lately, and two different design approaches have been floated. One approach would allow fulltext indexing, the other, not so much.
Hi.
It's been a while so sorry if i missed something.
I'm using Citadel on a Raspi 3B, been running for years.
I create a lot of users, so that it's easy to kill one should spam flood that user (which hasn't happened yet).
But i've also noted that those users can log in to get mail, but weren't able to send mail through a client.
They were able to send messages through webmail, but not by logging in with their mail program (such as Thunderbird), the passwords working in webmail will be denied.
I've been trying to find out why this happened, and found an answer somewhere else stating that passwords longer than 19 characters will not work.
So i've changed passwords, they're now up to 9 characters long (some of the not working ones were 12 characters long, most were 16).
Now they all work.
Is this a known issue, and is this a Citadel problem, something with SMTP protocols or could it be some OS problem with the PC running the client ?
I've been testing on a Win7 system if that is of any help.
I'll be testing on a Win11 system later on this week.
Thanks in advance for any of your insights.
so with the recent DB crash/restore/rebuilds, should i expect all my mail to be gone? Both incoming and outgoing? Not a big deal, didnt need them. Just that i noticed it today so i thought id mention it.
So i've changed passwords, they're now up to 9 characters long (some
of the not working ones were 12 characters long, most were 16).
Now they all work.
Not sure about that, but Citadel Server permits passwords up to 31 characters long.
Do the usernames have spaces or other non-alnum characters in them? Unless you have a very old Citadel you should be able to remove all of the spaces and other characters from the login name and it will still work. That often helps when using third party clients.
so with the recent DB crash/restore/rebuilds, should i expect all my
mail to be gone? Both incoming and outgoing? Not a big deal,
If you restored from a backup, everything should still be intact.
If you ran database_cleanup.sh , it depends on how bad your corruption was.
I've seen it restore everything perfectly, and I've seen it not recover perfectly.
Once again however, you should definitely be running Citadel Server version 991 or later. We made the database layer absolutely bulletproof by adding mmap (disk-backed) dbenv. I haven't been able to make it fail even after deliberately and repeatedly crashing the server under high write load.
it was on here at uncensored.. not a local copy. sorry i wasn't more clear. But again, not a big deal to me personally, i just thought id mention it, just in case.
Fri Sep 15 2023 13:16:19 EDT from IGnatius T Foobarso with the recent DB crash/restore/rebuilds, should i expect all my
mail to be gone? Both incoming and outgoing? Not a big deal,
If you restored from a backup, everything should still be intact.
If you ran database_cleanup.sh , it depends on how bad your corruption was.
I've seen it restore everything perfectly, and I've seen it not recover perfectly.
Once again however, you should definitely be running Citadel Server version 991 or later. We made the database layer absolutely bulletproof by adding mmap (disk-backed) dbenv. I haven't been able to make it fail even after deliberately and repeatedly crashing the server under high write load.
As you know, here on Uncensored we run bleeding-edge Citadel software because we are the last stage of testing before new versions go out to the world.
And yes, the private rooms (including mailboxes) of some users were a casualty.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
For me, not a problem at all. Just didnt want to leave it unreported :)
Fri Sep 15 2023 17:52:45 EDT from IGnatius T FoobarOooooh, yes that. :(
As you know, here on Uncensored we run bleeding-edge Citadel software because we are the last stage of testing before new versions go out to the world.
And yes, the private rooms (including mailboxes) of some users were a casualty.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Trying to install citadel using Easy Install. Libcitadel fails to install, it's missing the configure script. Was automake/autoconf not run ?
2023-09-16 21:16:56 (291 KB/s) - 'libcitadel-easyinstall.tar.gz' saved [248327/248327]
Installing libcitadel...
./citadel.install: line 454: ./configure: No such file or directory
Citadel Easy Install is aborting.
The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong.
Linux Debian bookworm/sid( 4.19.84-microsoft-standard x86_64)
Cheers,
Henri
Subject: Re: Install failure using EasyInstall
Trying to install citadel using Easy Install. Libcitadel fails to
install, it's missing the configure script. Was automake/autoconf not
run ?
Noted. I pushed that update last night and just noticed that it had that problem.
You should be able to run it now with no problems. It's been fixed.
So i've changed passwords, they're now up to 9 characters long (some
of the not working ones were 12 characters long, most were 16).
Now they all work.
Not sure about that, but Citadel Server permits passwords up to 31 characters long.
Do the usernames have spaces or other non-alnum characters in them? Unless you have a very old Citadel you should be able to remove all of the spaces and other characters from the login name and it will still work. That often helps when using third party clients.
No, usernames do not have spaces or unusual characters in them.
And using webmail, there are no problems, so i think it is unlikely that there is a problem with Citadel itself.
I did test with a windows 11 laptop, and had the same problem.
I'll create new users and their names will be test10, test11, test12, test13 and test14, with passwords containing only numbers to see what will happen.
They will be removed after testing.
Hey, has anyone here integrated Citadel with AD?
[ https://www.citadel.org/msadsso.html ]
(It's a bit old, using Windows Server 2008, but the procedure hasn't changed much since then.)
Hello,
Very new to this room.
From a client machine I am trying to: echo "Subject: Client machine citmail" | /usr/local/citadel/citmail red@webmailserver.dom.com
An getting this: citmail: can't connect: Connection refused
The webmailserver sever is ONLY listening on 587.
The command works fine from the webmailserver sever itself (localhost).
In the client machine I did install another citadel full but stop the 3 services (citadel, http/https web)... on/off does not make any change)
Telnet from client to server on port 587 is OK
netstat -ltnp | grep cit
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:504 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 129029/citserver
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:587 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 129029/citserver
tcp6 0 0 :::444 :::* LISTEN 119743/webcit
I thought it was a certificate/key issue and copy from the server to the client (citadel.key and citadel.cer).
Question:
1) I can't find a conf file that I can check for citmail is this normal?
2) I can find in the server any logs that could tell me why it's rejecting
3) from the CLient adding the "-d" to citmail does not display more info
Any tips ?
Subject: Re: Configuring citmail to send mail on 587
That's not what `citmail` is for.
If you are running some third-party MTA that needs to call some other program to perform the final delivery of local mail, `citmail` is what it calls. But even that is mostly obsolete at this point, because most MTA's now support LMTP, and Citadel provides an LMTP socket.
If you are running Citadel Server on your host and you need to deliver mail from shell scripts and the like, you could consider a program like `nullmailer` (it's in your OS repo) and point that at Citadel.
Subject: installing on AmazonLinux (or any ARM, really)
Trying to get Citadel going on the cheapest AWS server I can, and on ARM, if possible. Tried AmazonLinux both x64 and ARM versions and get the error "==: unary operator expected" when attempting to run the quickstart curl https://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | bash
Is there an ARM distro that Citadel works on?