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[#] Sat Mar 12 2022 15:51:03 EST from manutremo

Subject: Re: Filter to move Messages marked by SpamAssassin

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Hi, I see this was posted close to 1 yr ago, but I didn't find any answer.

I'm runnning into exactly the same issue as the op, that is, I'm trying to set a rule that checks the X-Spam-Status and sends it to a spam folder if it contains "True" (I checked the headers of a GTUBE email and it contains "True" instead of "Yes" as stated in the spamassassin documentation).

Any idea or workaround?

Thanks in advance,

 

 

Mon Apr 05 2021 08:31:30 EDT from vanadius Subject: Filter to move Messages marked by SpamAssassin

I have a working setup with SpamAssassin marking incoming Mail.

Now I want Citadel to move all marked EMails to a Spam-Folder before delivering them to the clients. As I understand it the way to do that is using the server-side mail filters. I just can't seem to get the filter to work.
I expected the filter to be like:
If |X-Spam-Status| |contains| |True| |Move message to| |Spam| and then |continue processing|

I derived the filter from the EMail headers generated by SpamAssassin (The required value is -10.0 to force the EMail as Spam)

X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: True, score=0.8 required=-10.0

However, no EMail matches the filter. If I invert the condition (from |contains| to |does not contain|), all EMails get sent to the Spam folder, so the problem is not with in the moving messages part.

Any Ideas?



 



[#] Sat Mar 12 2022 21:19:57 EST from jjwalker

Subject: Can't see changes from icon symlink

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What icons are supposed to be changed by the symlink info on this page?:  https://www.citadel.org/webcit_file_icons.html

I noticed that the doc text is showing 2 different commands that aren't spaced properly in the paragraph, so I know that the ln is a separate command and corrected for that.  I can see the icons "folder" with the GNOME 24x24 mime icons.  I tried a few other icon sets but I don't see any real changes in the Citweb styling.  Where should I see the changes in the UI?



[#] Wed Mar 16 2022 05:26:33 EDT from ljm

Subject: Easy install on Slackware 15

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Easy install is broken. It makes assumptions on Linux systems that are not always valid. I did the easyinstall on a fresh Slackware 15. It ended in error twice.

First error was after the question "would you like to install the dependencies". I naively said OK. ERROR!!!!!! easy install cannot install packages on Slackware. Well, if you cannot do it, don't offer to do it.

Ok, The Slackware-way was always that you were responsible for your own dependencies, so I looked at the packages that were needed for other distro's and found that they were already installed on my Slackware system. So, next try, I told the easy install not to install dependencies.  That went well for a long time until: ERROR!!!!! you are not running sytemd! What kind of Luddite are you?!! We will enforce the use of systemd upon you! 

So I had to put the start-up lines for citadel in /etc/rc.local. That is apparently very difficult for easy install, so I had to do that manually.

Now a question: If I put

/usr/local/citadel/citserver -d

in rc.local, Citadel does not listen to IMAP4 or POP3 ports. I understood, the -d was for daemonizing. I had to put

nohup /usr/local/citadel/citserver > /var/log/citserver.out 2> /var/log/citserver.err &

in rc.local to let it actually listen to the IMAP and POP ports. Is it possible to make citserver start normally daemonized and make it listen to the PO3 and IMAP4? Commandline options I missed, config file I need to edit?

ljm



[#] Wed Mar 16 2022 12:55:23 EDT from agornik

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Not really, I would like to delete my login account from this page.

[#] Thu Mar 17 2022 23:59:45 EDT from metalinchains

Subject: Compiling Citadel

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Hi everyone! recently i found citadel and i want to give it a try. The problem is that the easy installer script does not work in Manjaro (Arch Linux) and the installer from the AUR is broken.

Can anyone provide me a guide on how to compile the software under Arch Linux? 

Thanks!

Cheers from Argentina



[#] Fri Mar 18 2022 13:44:54 EDT from wintpe

Subject: Re: Compiling Citadel

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So ill say what i think, please dont flame me, its coming with the best of intentions.

 

theres a reason why installing a mailserver on a workstation based linux is not a great idea, and its the same reason enterprise customers do not use a 

windows desktop to run an ftp server for example.

a workstation os has much more aggressive updates, bleeding edge etc.

usually that version lasts for about six months (fedora for example, to 5 years slackware for example, but thats an outside example).

however debian 11, or redhat enterprise server or suse enterprise server have a 10 year lifetime.

they also have a standard way of installing packages, and dependencies.

I run mine on rocky linux which is one of the new downstream replacements for centos.

this is the same reasons i suspect, although im not speaking for the citadel team, that they support these platforms.

regards peter 



[#] Fri Mar 18 2022 13:53:48 EDT from wintpe

Subject: Re: Filter to move Messages marked by SpamAssassin

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Sat Mar 12 2022 15:51:03 EST from manutremo Subject: Re: Filter to move Messages marked by SpamAssassin

Hi, I see this was posted close to 1 yr ago, but I didn't find any answer.

I'm runnning into exactly the same issue as the op, that is, I'm trying to set a rule that checks the X-Spam-Status and sends it to a spam folder if it contains "True" (I checked the headers of a GTUBE email and it contains "True" instead of "Yes" as stated in the spamassassin documentation).

Any idea or workaround?

Thanks in advance,

 

 

Mon Apr 05 2021 08:31:30 EDT from vanadius Subject: Filter to move Messages marked by SpamAssassin

I have a working setup with SpamAssassin marking incoming Mail.

Now I want Citadel to move all marked EMails to a Spam-Folder before delivering them to the clients. As I understand it the way to do that is using the server-side mail filters. I just can't seem to get the filter to work.
I expected the filter to be like:
If |X-Spam-Status| |contains| |True| |Move message to| |Spam| and then |continue processing|

I derived the filter from the EMail headers generated by SpamAssassin (The required value is -10.0 to force the EMail as Spam)

X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: True, score=0.8 required=-10.0

However, no EMail matches the filter. If I invert the condition (from |contains| to |does not contain|), all EMails get sent to the Spam folder, so the problem is not with in the moving messages part.

Any Ideas?



 



Just airing the way ive gone about this.

While the basic citadel setup through the admin pages is well covered i found that it was easier to just have citserver answering port 25 and sending on to the smarthost, this keeps the whole thing reliable and easy to follow things when they go wrong.

I run my citadel on rocky but as a virtual machine on a proxmox server, and proxmox also have a mailrelay server that runs as a virtual machine under proxmox.

the mailrelay does everything you are asking for and more, and has a fabulous GUI for setting it all up, although if you want to mess with its postfix main.cf you need to look at its templates as it  updates main.cf through the gui.

 

proxmox mail covers antivirus, spam, whitelists blacklists  logging, dk/dm* 

 

and its free for non commercial use.

 

regards peter 



[#] Fri Mar 18 2022 15:00:28 EDT from metalinchains

Subject: Re: Compiling Citadel

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Fri Mar 18 2022 13:44:54 EDT from wintpe Subject: Re: Compiling Citadel

So ill say what i think, please dont flame me, its coming with the best of intentions.

 

theres a reason why installing a mailserver on a workstation based linux is not a great idea, and its the same reason enterprise customers do not use a 

windows desktop to run an ftp server for example.

a workstation os has much more aggressive updates, bleeding edge etc.

usually that version lasts for about six months (fedora for example, to 5 years slackware for example, but thats an outside example).

however debian 11, or redhat enterprise server or suse enterprise server have a 10 year lifetime.

they also have a standard way of installing packages, and dependencies.

I run mine on rocky linux which is one of the new downstream replacements for centos.

this is the same reasons i suspect, although im not speaking for the citadel team, that they support these platforms.

regards peter 



Just asking.

Now i'm running it on Debian 11 and is working great, i'm not a Linux expert only a enthusiast that found this software searching some terminal forum software.

Thanks for the reply!



[#] Sun Mar 20 2022 02:50:23 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

Subject: Re: Compiling Citadel

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As an enthusiast, running Citadel on a desktop Linux is fine - and a Debian based one is probably going to be the easiest for those who are not Linux pros. 

I've been successfully running Citadel, first starting on a Pi running Raspberry OS (before it was called that... or maybe it is called Pi OS now, whatever...) with DDNS... and then on bare metal on Debian, and now as a VM in a multi-node clustered Proxmox environment backing up to a NAS. 

Linux pros will over-complicate their advice on the BKMs to serve *anything* - and they're not necessarily wrong. I'm sure their systems are more secure, more efficient, enjoy more uptime, receive better lifetime support. 

But for the average guy who wants to run a BBS... Debian 11 desktop is fine. 

 



[#] Sun Mar 20 2022 02:53:10 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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And along those same lines - if you're running an obscure, granular, very administrative-heavy server-based Linux distro intended for corporate applications - I suppose you can expect that you'll need to do a lot of manual customization to get the Citadel Easy Install to work - and the expectation should be that if this is the kind of linux platform you've chosen, you probably have the skills to figure out what is broken and how to fix it. 

 

 



[#] Sun Mar 20 2022 02:54:33 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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I got a lot of advice from a lot of Linux gurus on my choice of a Pi, on my choice of Debian based OSes. Most of the people who gave me those suggestions still don't actually "sysop" a Citadel BBS. 

I've been doing it for about 4 years now. 

 



[#] Fri Mar 25 2022 21:00:38 EDT from elfipe

Subject: easyinstall permissions problem

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Hi,
I'm trying to run the easy install on an AlmaLinux vps, but I keep getting the error

Cannot write to /tmp/citadel-build.XXXXX

Are you not running this program as root?

even though I am logged in as root. I originally tried sudo but got the same results. I also get the same result whether I use curl or wget fwiw. Am I missing something really obvious here, or is there a workaround? Any help is appreciated!



[#] Sat Mar 26 2022 04:22:01 EDT from erol.kahraman

Subject: Re: LDAP Users

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Hi,

Could you share calendar for fixing this bug?

Sat Mar 12 2022 12:27:16 EST from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: LDAP Users

FreeIPA has a public demo/test server! This is *very* convenient.

Actually, I haven't had a chance to look at FreeIPA ... seems like a very nice identity server. I might even install it on my own network.

But the good news is ... this bug is now confirmed and reproducible. Thanks for reporting it. Looking into this now.

 



[#] Sun Mar 27 2022 16:36:25 EDT from ljm

Subject: Re: easyinstall permissions problem

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what do `ls -ld /tmp` and `df /tmp` say?



[#] Mon Mar 28 2022 11:32:25 EDT from blowhard

Subject: brand new user ...how can i temp stop webserver from command please?

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thanks!



[#] Mon Mar 28 2022 12:37:41 EDT from elfipe

Subject: Re: easyinstall permissions problem

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Here is the output:

[root@server ~]# ls -ld /tmp
drwxrwxrwt 7 root root 140 Mar 28 10:53 /tmp
[root@server ~]# df /tmp
Filesystem     1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs            1048576 34056   1014520   4% /tmp
[root@server ~]#



[#] Mon Mar 28 2022 16:30:29 EDT from elfipe

Subject: Re: easyinstall permissions problem

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found the problem! tmp was mounted with the noexec option



[#] Tue Mar 29 2022 01:02:23 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: LDAP Users

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Could you share calendar for fixing this bug?

Based on the progress we've made so far, I would say it is just a matter of weeks before we push out a new version that handles the FreeIPA schema properly.

[#] Tue Mar 29 2022 08:50:55 EDT from blowhard

Subject: Re: maximum password length exceeded on setup

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Hi, i am totally new to this (installed it yesterday) but found in the FAQ that you can reset the password by ssh to your machine and run the setup utility


which will be in /usr/local/citadel/setup for Easy Install or /usr/lib/citadel-server/setup if you have the .deb packages



[#] Tue Mar 29 2022 09:00:23 EDT from blowhard

Subject: Re: maximum password length exceeded on setup

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Thu Apr 01 2021 10:08:33 EDT from spot Subject: maximum password length exceeded on setup

How to reset the password on the admin account with a ssh connect to the server.

 

I've googled and you have no idea how many things out there are called "citadel". Steam apparently have a game and it swamps the search hits for overriding passwords, even if you put a -steam qualifier.

 

I did find a very belated note out there that the maximum character length is 32 characters, which may or may not be outdated information. The shortest maximum I've ever seen was 9 characters on ICQ after the protocol became popular in Russia, presumably someone running the network was trying hard not to get arrested.

 

Anyway, I fell head-first into the trap and I don't know how to climb out. I could re-run the easy install but I thought I'd ask and then go for a walk.



Whaaa! ....my third post and the wheels are coming off :-) i replied to a question without quoting and was suddenly lost disorientated , forlorn , now i see the question was from a year ago ...ho ho!



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