Hi, I see this was posted close to 1 yr ago, but I didn't find any answer.

I'm runnning into exactly the same issue as the op, that is, I'm trying to set a rule that checks the X-Spam-Status and sends it to a spam folder if it contains "True" (I checked the headers of a GTUBE email and it contains "True" instead of "Yes" as stated in the spamassassin documentation).

Any idea or workaround?

Thanks in advance,

Mon Apr 05 2021 08:31:30 EDT from vanadius Subject: Filter to move Messages marked by SpamAssassin

I have a working setup with SpamAssassin marking incoming Mail.

Now I want Citadel to move all marked EMails to a Spam-Folder before delivering them to the clients. As I understand it the way to do that is using the server-side mail filters. I just can't seem to get the filter to work.
I expected the filter to be like:
If |X-Spam-Status| |contains| |True| |Move message to| |Spam| and then |continue processing|

I derived the filter from the EMail headers generated by SpamAssassin (The required value is -10.0 to force the EMail as Spam)

X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: True, score=0.8 required=-10.0

However, no EMail matches the filter. If I invert the condition (from |contains| to |does not contain|), all EMails get sent to the Spam folder, so the problem is not with in the moving messages part.

Any Ideas?

What icons are supposed to be changed by the symlink info on this page?:  https://www.citadel.org/webcit_file_icons.html

I noticed that the doc text is showing 2 different commands that aren't spaced properly in the paragraph, so I know that the ln is a separate command and corrected for that.  I can see the icons "folder" with the GNOME 24x24 mime icons.  I tried a few other icon sets but I don't see any real changes in the Citweb styling.  Where should I see the changes in the UI?

Easy install is broken. It makes assumptions on Linux systems that are not always valid. I did the easyinstall on a fresh Slackware 15. It ended in error twice.

First error was after the question "would you like to install the dependencies". I naively said OK. ERROR!!!!!! easy install cannot install packages on Slackware. Well, if you cannot do it, don't offer to do it.

Ok, The Slackware-way was always that you were responsible for your own dependencies, so I looked at the packages that were needed for other distro's and found that they were already installed on my Slackware system. So, next try, I told the easy install not to install dependencies.  That went well for a long time until: ERROR!!!!! you are not running sytemd! What kind of Luddite are you?!! We will enforce the use of systemd upon you! 

So I had to put the start-up lines for citadel in /etc/rc.local. That is apparently very difficult for easy install, so I had to do that manually.

Now a question: If I put

/usr/local/citadel/citserver -d

in rc.local, Citadel does not listen to IMAP4 or POP3 ports. I understood, the -d was for daemonizing. I had to put

nohup /usr/local/citadel/citserver > /var/log/citserver.out 2> /var/log/citserver.err &

in rc.local to let it actually listen to the IMAP and POP ports. Is it possible to make citserver start normally daemonized and make it listen to the PO3 and IMAP4? Commandline options I missed, config file I need to edit?

ljm

Hi everyone! recently i found citadel and i want to give it a try. The problem is that the easy installer script does not work in Manjaro (Arch Linux) and the installer from the AUR is broken.

Can anyone provide me a guide on how to compile the software under Arch Linux? 

Thanks!

Cheers from Argentina

So ill say what i think, please dont flame me, its coming with the best of intentions.

theres a reason why installing a mailserver on a workstation based linux is not a great idea, and its the same reason enterprise customers do not use a 

windows desktop to run an ftp server for example.

a workstation os has much more aggressive updates, bleeding edge etc.

usually that version lasts for about six months (fedora for example, to 5 years slackware for example, but thats an outside example).

however debian 11, or redhat enterprise server or suse enterprise server have a 10 year lifetime.

they also have a standard way of installing packages, and dependencies.

I run mine on rocky linux which is one of the new downstream replacements for centos.

this is the same reasons i suspect, although im not speaking for the citadel team, that they support these platforms.

regards peter 

Sat Mar 12 2022 15:51:03 EST from manutremo Subject: Re: Filter to move Messages marked by SpamAssassin

Hi, I see this was posted close to 1 yr ago, but I didn't find any answer.

I'm runnning into exactly the same issue as the op, that is, I'm trying to set a rule that checks the X-Spam-Status and sends it to a spam folder if it contains "True" (I checked the headers of a GTUBE email and it contains "True" instead of "Yes" as stated in the spamassassin documentation).

Any idea or workaround?

Thanks in advance,

 

 

Mon Apr 05 2021 08:31:30 EDT from vanadius Subject: Filter to move Messages marked by SpamAssassin

I have a working setup with SpamAssassin marking incoming Mail.

Now I want Citadel to move all marked EMails to a Spam-Folder before delivering them to the clients. As I understand it the way to do that is using the server-side mail filters. I just can't seem to get the filter to work.
I expected the filter to be like:
If |X-Spam-Status| |contains| |True| |Move message to| |Spam| and then |continue processing|

I derived the filter from the EMail headers generated by SpamAssassin (The required value is -10.0 to force the EMail as Spam)

X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: True, score=0.8 required=-10.0

However, no EMail matches the filter. If I invert the condition (from |contains| to |does not contain|), all EMails get sent to the Spam folder, so the problem is not with in the moving messages part.

Any Ideas?

 

Just airing the way ive gone about this.

While the basic citadel setup through the admin pages is well covered i found that it was easier to just have citserver answering port 25 and sending on to the smarthost, this keeps the whole thing reliable and easy to follow things when they go wrong.

I run my citadel on rocky but as a virtual machine on a proxmox server, and proxmox also have a mailrelay server that runs as a virtual machine under proxmox.

the mailrelay does everything you are asking for and more, and has a fabulous GUI for setting it all up, although if you want to mess with its postfix main.cf you need to look at its templates as it  updates main.cf through the gui.

proxmox mail covers antivirus, spam, whitelists blacklists  logging, dk/dm* 

and its free for non commercial use.

regards peter 

Fri Mar 18 2022 13:44:54 EDT from wintpe Subject: Re: Compiling Citadel

So ill say what i think, please dont flame me, its coming with the best of intentions.

 

theres a reason why installing a mailserver on a workstation based linux is not a great idea, and its the same reason enterprise customers do not use a 

windows desktop to run an ftp server for example.

a workstation os has much more aggressive updates, bleeding edge etc.

usually that version lasts for about six months (fedora for example, to 5 years slackware for example, but thats an outside example).

however debian 11, or redhat enterprise server or suse enterprise server have a 10 year lifetime.

they also have a standard way of installing packages, and dependencies.

I run mine on rocky linux which is one of the new downstream replacements for centos.

this is the same reasons i suspect, although im not speaking for the citadel team, that they support these platforms.

regards peter 

Just asking.

Now i'm running it on Debian 11 and is working great, i'm not a Linux expert only a enthusiast that found this software searching some terminal forum software.

Thanks for the reply!

As an enthusiast, running Citadel on a desktop Linux is fine - and a Debian based one is probably going to be the easiest for those who are not Linux pros. 

I've been successfully running Citadel, first starting on a Pi running Raspberry OS (before it was called that... or maybe it is called Pi OS now, whatever...) with DDNS... and then on bare metal on Debian, and now as a VM in a multi-node clustered Proxmox environment backing up to a NAS. 

Linux pros will over-complicate their advice on the BKMs to serve *anything* - and they're not necessarily wrong. I'm sure their systems are more secure, more efficient, enjoy more uptime, receive better lifetime support. 

But for the average guy who wants to run a BBS... Debian 11 desktop is fine. 

And along those same lines - if you're running an obscure, granular, very administrative-heavy server-based Linux distro intended for corporate applications - I suppose you can expect that you'll need to do a lot of manual customization to get the Citadel Easy Install to work - and the expectation should be that if this is the kind of linux platform you've chosen, you probably have the skills to figure out what is broken and how to fix it. 

I got a lot of advice from a lot of Linux gurus on my choice of a Pi, on my choice of Debian based OSes. Most of the people who gave me those suggestions still don't actually "sysop" a Citadel BBS. 

I've been doing it for about 4 years now. 

Hi,
I'm trying to run the easy install on an AlmaLinux vps, but I keep getting the error

Cannot write to /tmp/citadel-build.XXXXX

Are you not running this program as root?

even though I am logged in as root. I originally tried sudo but got the same results. I also get the same result whether I use curl or wget fwiw. Am I missing something really obvious here, or is there a workaround? Any help is appreciated!

Hi,

Could you share calendar for fixing this bug?

Sat Mar 12 2022 12:27:16 EST from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: LDAP Users

FreeIPA has a public demo/test server! This is *very* convenient.

Actually, I haven't had a chance to look at FreeIPA ... seems like a very nice identity server. I might even install it on my own network.

But the good news is ... this bug is now confirmed and reproducible. Thanks for reporting it. Looking into this now.

what do `ls -ld /tmp` and `df /tmp` say?

thanks!

Here is the output:

[root@server ~]# ls -ld /tmp
drwxrwxrwt 7 root root 140 Mar 28 10:53 /tmp
[root@server ~]# df /tmp
Filesystem     1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs            1048576 34056   1014520   4% /tmp
[root@server ~]#

found the problem! tmp was mounted with the noexec option

Hi, i am totally new to this (installed it yesterday) but found in the FAQ that you can reset the password by ssh to your machine and run the setup utility

which will be in /usr/local/citadel/setup for Easy Install or /usr/lib/citadel-server/setup if you have the .deb packages