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[#] Sun Dec 21 2014 10:28:12 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Return path issue.

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you should be able to set the return-path header from your php client.

try using thunderbirds ctrl+u feature with the sent folder of the user to revalidate it.



[#] Sun Dec 21 2014 17:31:14 EST from TaMeR @ Uncensored

Subject: Alternative public email addresses

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Are you aware that in Mailing List Service

The following isn't working, and hasn't been working in a while?
Or is it a problem with my installation?

Alternative public emailaddresses pointing to this room:

 

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TaMeR

Citadel Sync:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel/wiki/CitadelSync

Citadel Go Library:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel

Citadel PHP:
https://bitbucket.org/robotamer/citadelphp



[#] Sun Dec 21 2014 18:01:22 EST from TaMeR @ Uncensored

Subject: XML Parsing error: Not well formated

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This link gives an XML Parsing error: Not well formated in the Bamboo reader and doesn't work in Thunderbird feeds either.

https://uncensored.citadel.org/feed_rss?go=Citadel%20Support

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TaMeR

Citadel Sync:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel/wiki/CitadelSync

Citadel Go Library:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel

Citadel PHP:
https://bitbucket.org/robotamer/citadelphp



[#] Sun Dec 21 2014 18:25:04 EST from jsebean @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

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Nobody has any info on this? Is there even a way to monitor a user and make sure they're not overloading the system/sending too much mail?

Wed Nov 26 2014 20:08:50 EST from jsebean @ Uncensored Subject: Abuse or overload of Citadel

Given that Citadel does not have a quota system and that the database doesn't shrink in disk space used even if you delete mail, etc, how do you prevent someone from, for example, filling a mailbox and eating up all the space or sending a lot of attachments. Is there ways to prevent this sort of stuff, or limit ones use of resources?

-J



 



[#] Sun Dec 21 2014 19:10:57 EST from TaMeR @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

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Sun Dec 21 2014 18:25:04 EST from jsebean @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

Nobody has any info on this? Is there even a way to monitor a user and make sure they're not overloading the system/sending too much mail?

Wed Nov 26 2014 20:08:50 EST from jsebean @ Uncensored Subject: Abuse or overload of Citadel

Given that Citadel does not have a quota system and that the database doesn't shrink in disk space used even if you delete mail, etc, how do you prevent someone from, for example, filling a mailbox and eating up all the space or sending a lot of attachments. Is there ways to prevent this sort of stuff, or limit ones use of resources?

-J



 



Citadel is not designed to be a free email server like gmail or gmx, out of the box

There is a lot you can monitor in Citadel with some tech know how.

Without it you shouldn't do anything like that anyway.

Meaning Citadel is perfect the way it is, it let's you do what you need in small scope without a lot of know how.
And expects more know how, for anything you shouldn't be doing without it.

-- 
TaMeR

Citadel Sync:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel/wiki/CitadelSync

Citadel Go Library:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel

Citadel PHP:
https://bitbucket.org/robotamer/citadelphp



[#] Sun Dec 21 2014 20:52:42 EST from jsebean @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

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Well what would be nice is just a basic quota system. I wouldn't want to run anything "big" like gmail, just for a few people at church but I'd be willing to bet there'd be the few that used the email to sign up for websites that love sending newsletters and then they'd never clear their mailbox again. It would just be nice to monitor something like that or set a quota or limit.

Sun Dec 21 2014 19:10:57 EST from TaMeR @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

 

Sun Dec 21 2014 18:25:04 EST from jsebean @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

Nobody has any info on this? Is there even a way to monitor a user and make sure they're not overloading the system/sending too much mail?

Wed Nov 26 2014 20:08:50 EST from jsebean @ Uncensored Subject: Abuse or overload of Citadel

Given that Citadel does not have a quota system and that the database doesn't shrink in disk space used even if you delete mail, etc, how do you prevent someone from, for example, filling a mailbox and eating up all the space or sending a lot of attachments. Is there ways to prevent this sort of stuff, or limit ones use of resources?

-J



 



Citadel is not designed to be a free email server like gmail or gmx, out of the box

There is a lot you can monitor in Citadel with some tech know how.

Without it you shouldn't do anything like that anyway.

Meaning Citadel is perfect the way it is, it let's you do what you need in small scope without a lot of know how.
And expects more know how, for anything you shouldn't be doing without it.

-- 
TaMeR

Citadel Sync:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel/wiki/CitadelSync

Citadel Go Library:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel

Citadel PHP:
https://bitbucket.org/robotamer/citadelphp



 



[#] Mon Dec 22 2014 02:17:32 EST from CharlesS @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Return path issue.

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The return path is the from address if sent from the Citadel web client.  I tested PHPmailer with Ubuntu 14.04 and CentOS 6 and same result.  Citadel is on domain 1 and my return-path is another email address on domain 2.  If I create a custom header for something arbitrary like "Error-To" it will go through.  However, the "Return-Path" custom header that I specify is being ignored.  Any clue? 

Sun Dec 21 2014 10:28:12 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Return path issue.

you should be able to set the return-path header from your php client.

try using thunderbirds ctrl+u feature with the sent folder of the user to revalidate it.



 



[#] Mon Dec 22 2014 05:55:13 EST from TaMeR @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

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Sun Dec 21 2014 20:52:42 EST from jsebean @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

Well what would be nice is just a basic quota system. I wouldn't want to run anything "big" like gmail, just for a few people at church but I'd be willing to bet there'd be the few that used the email to sign up for websites that love sending newsletters and then they'd never clear their mailbox again. It would just be nice to monitor something like that or set a quota or limit.

Sun Dec 21 2014 19:10:57 EST from TaMeR @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

 

Sun Dec 21 2014 18:25:04 EST from jsebean @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

Nobody has any info on this? Is there even a way to monitor a user and make sure they're not overloading the system/sending too much mail?

Wed Nov 26 2014 20:08:50 EST from jsebean @ Uncensored Subject: Abuse or overload of Citadel

Given that Citadel does not have a quota system and that the database doesn't shrink in disk space used even if you delete mail, etc, how do you prevent someone from, for example, filling a mailbox and eating up all the space or sending a lot of attachments. Is there ways to prevent this sort of stuff, or limit ones use of resources?

-J



 



Citadel is not designed to be a free email server like gmail or gmx, out of the box

There is a lot you can monitor in Citadel with some tech know how.

Without it you shouldn't do anything like that anyway.

Meaning Citadel is perfect the way it is, it let's you do what you need in small scope without a lot of know how.
And expects more know how, for anything you shouldn't be doing without it.

-- 
TaMeR

Citadel Sync:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel/wiki/CitadelSync

Citadel Go Library:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel

Citadel PHP:
https://bitbucket.org/robotamer/citadelphp

 

You can use the Auto-Purger for that.

Set the "Default message expire policy for private mailboxes"

-- 
TaMeR

Citadel Sync:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel/wiki/CitadelSync

Citadel Go Library:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel

Citadel PHP:
https://bitbucket.org/robotamer/citadelphp



[#] Mon Dec 22 2014 06:07:08 EST from TaMeR @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

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For users who signup but then stop using the system you can use this:

Any user who does not log in for the period specified in 'Default user purge time' will be deleted the next time a purge is run. This setting may be modified on a per-user basis.

 

Sun Dec 21 2014 20:52:42 ESTfrom jsebean @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

Well what would be nice is just a basic quota system. I wouldn't want to run anything "big" like gmail, just for a few people at church but I'd be willing to bet there'd be the few that used the email to sign up for websites that love sending newsletters and then they'd never clear their mailbox again. It would just be nice to monitor something like that or set a quota or limit.

-- 
TaMeR

Citadel Sync:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel/wiki/CitadelSync

Citadel Go Library:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel

Citadel PHP:
https://bitbucket.org/robotamer/citadelphp



[#] Mon Dec 22 2014 09:17:51 EST from jsebean @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

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It wouldn't allow self serve registration, it would only be a citadel server for internal use but on the internet for internet mail.

Does Citadel store attachment files somewhere or are they stored in the database or something?

Mon Dec 22 2014 06:07:08 EST from TaMeR @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

For users who signup but then stop using the system you can use this:

Any user who does not log in for the period specified in 'Default user purge time' will be deleted the next time a purge is run. This setting may be modified on a per-user basis.

 

Sun Dec 21 2014 20:52:42 ESTfrom jsebean @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

Well what would be nice is just a basic quota system. I wouldn't want to run anything "big" like gmail, just for a few people at church but I'd be willing to bet there'd be the few that used the email to sign up for websites that love sending newsletters and then they'd never clear their mailbox again. It would just be nice to monitor something like that or set a quota or limit.

-- 
TaMeR

Citadel Sync:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel/wiki/CitadelSync

Citadel Go Library:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel

Citadel PHP:
https://bitbucket.org/robotamer/citadelphp



 



[#] Mon Dec 22 2014 10:04:07 EST from jsebean @ Uncensored

Subject: Upgrade Citadel suite in Debian Wheezy

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Hey folks,

Is it possible to update Citadel to it's latest version in Debian Wheezy without pinning the package from Testing or something with apt? It doesn't appear to be backported. Is there a repo I can use?

Thanks



[#] Mon Dec 22 2014 14:27:17 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Upgrade Citadel suite in Debian Wheezy

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Mon Dec 22 2014 10:04:07 EST from jsebean @ Uncensored Subject: Upgrade Citadel suite in Debian Wheezy

Hey folks,

Is it possible to update Citadel to it's latest version in Debian Wheezy without pinning the package from Testing or something with apt? It doesn't appear to be backported. Is there a repo I can use?

Thanks



well, since that time citadel has added a bunch of dependencies, so you'll have to compile those dependencies.

i'd go that route how ever.

add an apt-source line of the current testing, run apt-get source for all of them dpkg-buildpackage

the required libraries (in more recent versions) are curl and c-ares.

see

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:debian?#tobuildfromsource

for more details on compiling debian packages.

 



[#] Mon Dec 22 2014 14:28:13 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

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citadel has a limit for attachments and email sizes.

Mon Dec 22 2014 09:17:51 EST from jsebean @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

It wouldn't allow self serve registration, it would only be a citadel server for internal use but on the internet for internet mail.

Does Citadel store attachment files somewhere or are they stored in the database or something?

Mon Dec 22 2014 06:07:08 EST from TaMeR @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

For users who signup but then stop using the system you can use this:

Any user who does not log in for the period specified in 'Default user purge time' will be deleted the next time a purge is run. This setting may be modified on a per-user basis.

 

Sun Dec 21 2014 20:52:42 ESTfrom jsebean @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

Well what would be nice is just a basic quota system. I wouldn't want to run anything "big" like gmail, just for a few people at church but I'd be willing to bet there'd be the few that used the email to sign up for websites that love sending newsletters and then they'd never clear their mailbox again. It would just be nice to monitor something like that or set a quota or limit.

-- 
TaMeR

Citadel Sync:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel/wiki/CitadelSync

Citadel Go Library:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel

Citadel PHP:
https://bitbucket.org/robotamer/citadelphp



 



 



[#] Sat Dec 20 2014 18:24:49 EST from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Messages originating here @ cascade are not appearing @ uncensored.

Will the sysops involved please investigate (assuming *this* message makes it out of here)?

--Vince

[#] Mon Dec 22 2014 16:12:44 EST from jsebean @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

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~10MB right?
But where do email attachments get stored? 

Mon Dec 22 2014 14:28:13 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

citadel has a limit for attachments and email sizes.

Mon Dec 22 2014 09:17:51 EST from jsebean @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

It wouldn't allow self serve registration, it would only be a citadel server for internal use but on the internet for internet mail.

Does Citadel store attachment files somewhere or are they stored in the database or something?

Mon Dec 22 2014 06:07:08 EST from TaMeR @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

For users who signup but then stop using the system you can use this:

Any user who does not log in for the period specified in 'Default user purge time' will be deleted the next time a purge is run. This setting may be modified on a per-user basis.

 

Sun Dec 21 2014 20:52:42 ESTfrom jsebean @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

Well what would be nice is just a basic quota system. I wouldn't want to run anything "big" like gmail, just for a few people at church but I'd be willing to bet there'd be the few that used the email to sign up for websites that love sending newsletters and then they'd never clear their mailbox again. It would just be nice to monitor something like that or set a quota or limit.

-- 
TaMeR

Citadel Sync:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel/wiki/CitadelSync

Citadel Go Library:
https://bitbucket.org/gotamer/citadel

Citadel PHP:
https://bitbucket.org/robotamer/citadelphp



 



 



 



[#] Mon Dec 22 2014 16:17:30 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Abuse or overload of Citadel

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But where do email attachments get stored? 

email attachments are stored in the database along with everything else.
There's no directory sitting somewhere with a file-by-file repository.

[#] Mon Dec 22 2014 16:18:43 EST from jsebean @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Upgrade Citadel suite in Debian Wheezy

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Mon Dec 22 2014 14:27:17 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Upgrade Citadel suite in Debian Wheezy

 

Mon Dec 22 2014 10:04:07 EST from jsebean @ Uncensored Subject: Upgrade Citadel suite in Debian Wheezy

Hey folks,

Is it possible to update Citadel to it's latest version in Debian Wheezy without pinning the package from Testing or something with apt? It doesn't appear to be backported. Is there a repo I can use?

Thanks



well, since that time citadel has added a bunch of dependencies, so you'll have to compile those dependencies.

i'd go that route how ever.

add an apt-source line of the current testing, run apt-get source for all of them dpkg-buildpackage

the required libraries (in more recent versions) are curl and c-ares.

see

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:debian?#tobuildfromsource

for more details on compiling debian packages.

 



The nice part about grabbing already built packages is that I'm extraordinarily lazy, and if there were ever a security update or something it's usually there in the repo. One could pin the packages and it would pull down the dependencies, but I thought it might have been ported on another repo or something. I may just compile it though, atm 8.14 works. Is there much difference between versions or reason to upgrade?



[#] Tue Dec 23 2014 22:06:16 EST from vince-q @ Uncensored

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Thank you, IG, for getting the networking stuff working again!


[#] Wed Dec 24 2014 23:03:51 EST from athos-mn @ Uncensored

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I've got a minor, but could get to be very annoying, issue:

 

I just migrated Citadel to a new server via ctdlmigrate - which worked a charm. The problem I'm having is that I'm seeing email I delete pop back up a few minutes later in the same folder - be it WebCit or an IMAP client. Similarly, mail I've marked as read comes back as unread. 

 

I was running 8.24 for a while prior to the migration, and nothing has changed client-wise - they just reconnected to the server same as they always did. Any suggestions?



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