I've been messing with various BBS's to have on one of the systems at my VCF table this year and, remembering Citadel of long ago, thought maybe I'd give it a shot.

I have a SPARCstation 20 running Solaris 7 and found source for Citadel-UX 5.52 and 6.14, both have various build issues and wondered if there might happen to be some other versions of the source around somewhere. Whatever the latest source release was in the 5.x and 6.x trees might help in building this museum piece.

/TIA

Nothing specifically really other than a text mode BBS, there are many DOS and other options, not many for Solaris (which is one of the machines I have on hand). The only real requirement is that I’m trying to target the year 1999 and have it there at the table so anyone can use it 

Version 6 has more Yacc issues than I care to tackle, but after fixing a couple small bugs in the 5.52 version, and adjusting make options, I have it built and working.

Running the docker image on arch/podman 5.5.1 (unpriviledged) seems to crash rather happily, after some light use:

Just in case, this output is of any use, meanthile I'll try a complete reboot:

Jun 26 18:16:58 podhost systemd-coredump[72142]: Process 71754 (citserver) of user 666 terminated abnormally with signal 11/SEGV, processing...
Jun 26 18:16:58 podhost systemd[1]: Started Process Core Dump (PID 72142/UID 0).
Jun 26 18:16:58 podhost systemd-coredump[72143]: Process 71754 (citserver) of user 666 dumped core.
                                                            
                                                            Stack trace of thread 268:
                                                            #0  0x000077723f430ad9 n/a (/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.31.so + 0x16aad9)
                                                            #1  0x000077723b453630 n/a (n/a + 0x0)
                                                            ELF object binary architecture: AMD x86-64
Jun 26 18:16:58 podhost systemd[1]: systemd-coredump@1-72142-0.service: Deactivated successfully.
Jun 26 18:16:58 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: pid=265 exited, status=139, exitcode=0
Jun 26 18:16:58 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: citserver crashed on signal 11
Jun 26 18:16:58 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: citserver running on pid=274
Jun 26 18:16:58 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: executing citserver
Jun 26 18:17:40 podhost systemd-coredump[72187]: Process 72149 (citserver) of user 666 terminated abnormally with signal 11/SEGV, processing...
Jun 26 18:17:40 podhost systemd[1]: Started Process Core Dump (PID 72187/UID 0).
Jun 26 18:17:40 podhost systemd-coredump[72188]: Process 72149 (citserver) of user 666 dumped core.
                                                            
                                                            Stack trace of thread 275:
                                                            #0  0x00007915a0fdaad9 n/a (/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.31.so + 0x16aad9)
                                                            #1  0x000079159e009630 n/a (n/a + 0x0)
                                                            ELF object binary architecture: AMD x86-64
Jun 26 18:17:40 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: pid=274 exited, status=139, exitcode=0
Jun 26 18:17:40 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: citserver crashed on signal 11
Jun 26 18:17:40 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: executing citserver
Jun 26 18:17:40 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: citserver running on pid=280
Jun 26 18:17:40 podhost systemd[1]: systemd-coredump@2-72187-0.service: Deactivated successfully.
Jun 26 18:18:28 podhost systemd-coredump[72202]: Process 72192 (citserver) of user 666 terminated abnormally with signal 11/SEGV, processing...
Jun 26 18:18:28 podhost systemd[1]: Started Process Core Dump (PID 72202/UID 0).
Jun 26 18:18:29 podhost systemd-coredump[72203]: Process 72192 (citserver) of user 666 dumped core.
                                                            
                                                            Stack trace of thread 281:
                                                            #0  0x00007f8ad0c30ad9 n/a (/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.31.so + 0x16aad9)
                                                            #1  0x00007f8acdc5d630 n/a (n/a + 0x0)
                                                            ELF object binary architecture: AMD x86-64
Jun 26 18:18:29 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: pid=280 exited, status=139, exitcode=0
Jun 26 18:18:29 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: citserver crashed on signal 11
Jun 26 18:18:29 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: citserver running on pid=283
Jun 26 18:18:29 podhost systemd[1]: systemd-coredump@3-72202-0.service: Deactivated successfully.
Jun 26 18:18:29 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: executing citserver
Jun 26 18:19:21 podhost systemd-coredump[72214]: Process 72207 (citserver) of user 666 terminated abnormally with signal 11/SEGV, processing...
Jun 26 18:19:21 podhost systemd[1]: Started Process Core Dump (PID 72214/UID 0).
Jun 26 18:19:21 podhost systemd-coredump[72215]: Process 72207 (citserver) of user 666 dumped core.
                                                            
                                                            Stack trace of thread 284:
                                                            #0  0x0000742305acbad9 n/a (/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.31.so + 0x16aad9)
                                                            #1  0x0000742302af9620 n/a (n/a + 0x0)
                                                            ELF object binary architecture: AMD x86-64
Jun 26 18:19:21 podhost systemd[1]: systemd-coredump@4-72214-0.service: Deactivated successfully.
Jun 26 18:19:21 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: pid=283 exited, status=139, exitcode=0
Jun 26 18:19:21 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: citserver crashed on signal 11
Jun 26 18:19:21 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: executing citserver
Jun 26 18:19:21 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: citserver running on pid=287
Jun 26 18:19:55 podhost systemd-coredump[72227]: Process 72219 (citserver) of user 666 terminated abnormally with signal 11/SEGV, processing...
Jun 26 18:19:55 podhost systemd[1]: Started Process Core Dump (PID 72227/UID 0).
Jun 26 18:19:55 podhost systemd-coredump[72228]: Process 72219 (citserver) of user 666 dumped core.
                                                            
                                                            Stack trace of thread 289:
                                                            #0  0x000077fca9a75ad9 n/a (/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.31.so + 0x16aad9)
                                                            #1  0x000077fca62a0630 n/a (n/a + 0x0)
                                                            ELF object binary architecture: AMD x86-64
Jun 26 18:19:55 podhost systemd[1]: systemd-coredump@5-72227-0.service: Deactivated successfully.
Jun 26 18:19:55 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: pid=287 exited, status=139, exitcode=0
Jun 26 18:19:55 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: citserver crashed on signal 11
Jun 26 18:19:55 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: citserver running on pid=290
Jun 26 18:19:55 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: executing citserver
Jun 26 18:20:29 podhost systemd-coredump[72237]: Process 72232 (citserver) of user 666 terminated abnormally with signal 11/SEGV, processing...
Jun 26 18:20:29 podhost systemd[1]: Started Process Core Dump (PID 72237/UID 0).
Jun 26 18:20:29 podhost systemd-coredump[72238]: Process 72232 (citserver) of user 666 dumped core.
                                                            
                                                            Stack trace of thread 292:
                                                            #0  0x0000778b2f4faad9 n/a (/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.31.so + 0x16aad9)
                                                            #1  0x0000778b2bd7f630 n/a (n/a + 0x0)
                                                            ELF object binary architecture: AMD x86-64
Jun 26 18:20:29 podhost systemd[1]: systemd-coredump@6-72237-0.service: Deactivated successfully.
Jun 26 18:20:29 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: pid=290 exited, status=139, exitcode=0
Jun 26 18:20:29 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: citserver crashed on signal 11
Jun 26 18:20:29 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: citserver running on pid=293
Jun 26 18:20:29 podhost citadel[614]: ctdlvisor: executing citserver

Sa Jun 28 2025 18:11:05 UTC von IGnatius T Foobar Betreff: Re: docker image keeps crashing

Running the docker image on arch/podman 5.5.1 (unpriviledged) seems to
crash rather happily, after some light use:

If you could run the container in the foreground with full logging turned on, it would be great if you could capture the last screenful of log messages before a crash.

As your previous log capture shows, we've been trying to get it to be better about showing where it crashed, but all we're able to get so far is a program name and memory offset.

I am having trouble getting podmal to be ba any verbose at all, and running in the foreground does not talk much either:

$ podman run --systemd=true --rm --cpus=2 --memory=1g --name=citadel --hostname=hello.world.net --mount=type=bind,source=/daten/podman/data/citadel,destination=/citadel-data,ro=false,U=true --network=pasta:--interface,dummy.pod,--ns-ifname,tap15.pod,--ns-mac-addr,2a:00:00:00:00:15,--address,192.168.89.15,--netmask,255.255.255.0,--gateway,192.168.89.1,--outbound,192.168.89.15,--outbound-if4,dummy.pod,--fqdn,hello.world.net,--no-dhcpv6,--no-dhcp,--dns,none,--no-map-gw,--tcp-ports,192.168.89.1/25,--tcp-ports,192.168.89.1/80,--tcp-ports,192.168.89.1/110,--tcp-ports,192.168.89.1/119,--tcp-ports,192.168.89.1/143,--tcp-ports,192.168.89.1/443,--tcp-ports,192.168.89.1/465,--tcp-ports,192.168.89.1/504,--tcp-ports,192.168.89.1/563,--tcp-ports,192.168.89.1/587,--tcp-ports,192.168.89.1/993,--tcp-ports,192.168.89.1/995,--tcp-ports,192.168.89.1/5222 docker.io/citadeldotorg/citadel
ctdlvisor: Welcome to the Citadel System running in a container.
ctdlvisor: command line arguments: /usr/local/bin/ctdlvisor 
ctdlvisor: /citadel-data is writable
ctdlvisor: /citadel-data/data is writable
ctdlvisor: /citadel-data/files is writable
ctdlvisor: /citadel-data/keys is writable
ctdlvisor: citserver running on pid=2
ctdlvisor: webcit (HTTP) running on pid=3
ctdlvisor: executing citserver
ctdlvisor: executing webcit (http) on port 80
ctdlvisor: executing webcit (https) on port 443
ctdlvisor: webcit (HTTPS) running on pid=4
ctdlvisor: pid=2 exited, status=139, exitcode=0
ctdlvisor: citserver crashed on signal 11
ctdlvisor: citserver running on pid=10
ctdlvisor: executing citserver
ctdlvisor: pid=10 exited, status=139, exitcode=0
ctdlvisor: citserver crashed on signal 11
ctdlvisor: citserver running on pid=19
ctdlvisor: executing citserver

I have however, attached a coredumd for each of above crashes. Those came from a fresh install (empty citadel-data), so nothing secret in there. I hope. Maybe these help. In case you have any more hints for verbosity, just let me know, please.