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[#] Mon Jul 14 2025 11:48:15 UTC from HilbillyJoe

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Regardless, im not fake. And do or don't delete the account. I dont really care. I wont be back. its a trap.



[#] Mon Jul 14 2025 14:11:23 UTC from Nurb432

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loser

Sun Jul 13 2025 21:45:39 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

People who call themselves "Libertarian conservatives" (oxymoron by the way) are the worst. They hate American industry, they hate traditional values, and they tend to be "ItS ThE JeWs!!!" nutcases. Oh and also one told me to kill myself on IRC.



 



[#] Mon Jul 14 2025 14:11:42 UTC from Nurb432

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loser

Fri Jul 11 2025 22:40:00 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

You're losing it.

Fri Jul 11 2025 22:03:24 UTC from Nurb432

Hmm.. The Communist party is red.  The Republican party is red.

 

Coincidence? 



 



 



[#] Mon Jul 14 2025 14:19:39 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

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Believe it or not, I wasn't even talking about you.

Mon Jul 14 2025 14:11:23 UTC from Nurb432

loser

Sun Jul 13 2025 21:45:39 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

People who call themselves "Libertarian conservatives" (oxymoron by the way) are the worst. They hate American industry, they hate traditional values, and they tend to be "ItS ThE JeWs!!!" nutcases. Oh and also one told me to kill myself on IRC.



 



 



[#] Tue Jul 15 2025 11:20:32 UTC from darknetuser

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2025-07-13 21:20 from HilbillyJoe
Hey Dufus i just signed up today..    And yes, you are why i
asked for my account to be removed. I wish i had read more, i
missed this room totally when i was looking around this morning.
Seemed like a cool place. But no, its not. its a trap.


This room is called the Trashcan because it is where useless trash is put. If you don't want to deal with the ugly side of the Internet then my suggestion is not to visit trashcans.

Trashcans are a thing from another era of the Internet. Web forums tend to have them. In big social media they just ban the ugly threads.

[#] Tue Jul 15 2025 18:18:01 UTC from ZoeGraystone

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Darn. Still around.  Oh well, perhaps next time i hop on, jerk-face will be gone.

Or, next week when i'm up in Indiana, i might just write a system of my own and only invite decent people. AND kick anyone out instantly when they act like jerks. And not trying to imply that the work here our hosts are doing is bad, its a great system and they are putting a lot of work into it, just would be overkill for what i'm thinking

 

Mon Jul 14 2025 14:19:39 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

Believe it or not, I wasn't even talking about you.

Mon Jul 14 2025 14:11:23 UTC from Nurb432

loser

Sun Jul 13 2025 21:45:39 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek

People who call themselves "Libertarian conservatives" (oxymoron by the way) are the worst. They hate American industry, they hate traditional values, and they tend to be "ItS ThE JeWs!!!" nutcases. Oh and also one told me to kill myself on IRC.



 



 



 



[#] Thu Jul 24 2025 17:10:07 UTC from ZoeGraystone

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Scratch that minimalist BBS idea. We got knee deep into writing it, DB done, login working, theme, couple of admin pages, bla bla.... But we decided its not worth the effort to finish for what little it would be used.   Oh well.

 

And if anyone cares, Nurb is sitting here beside me and says hey.  And damn, its fracking hot up here. Expected 92 + 105 heat index, about like yesterday..   i picked the wrong time to visit.



[#] Sat Jul 26 2025 17:21:44 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Writing a message board is easy.  Building an online community is harder than ever.



[#] Sat Jul 26 2025 17:23:44 UTC from ZoeGraystone

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Right.. thus us killing the project. Not worth the effort. 

But hey, it gave us something to collaborate on for an afternoon while im here at his place since, its too fracking hot to go anywhere...  Will have to come back this fall or something. 

Sat Jul 26 2025 17:21:44 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

Writing a message board is easy.  Building an online community is harder than ever.



 



[#] Thu Jul 31 2025 11:41:17 UTC from darknetuser

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2025-07-26 17:23 from ZoeGraystone
Right.. thus us killing the project. Not worth the effort. 

Honestly, if you want a minimalistic board you can just take citadel, strip the web part, and then manually disable all the email and calendar and all the extra services in general. It is not as if it were extremely complex.


Besides, there are already slim platforms to pick. I think there is one called sshbbs which is writen in pure go. Maybe it is a bit too minimalistic.

[#] Fri Aug 01 2025 02:14:40 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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You don't even have to "strip" the web part, just don't run it. Or just write the user interface and connect it to Citadel Server as a back end. The idea has been, at least for a while now, that Citadel Server is a general purpose messaging and collaboration engine, and you write applications that run on top of it. When you're using the text mode client, you've got a BBS.

That concept is greatly enhanced in WebCit-NG, which presents as a set of applications instead of a stream of rooms that do different things. And sometime in the future I might write a separate web client that runs in really old school mode, a page at a time with no javascript, for the darknet afficionados who resist client-side scripting.

Here's an idea: instead of writing an entire BBS, how about submitting patches for Citadel that block the users you don't like?

[#] Fri Aug 01 2025 18:36:52 UTC from ZoeGraystone

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We wanted to keep it web, so it would be easy to use, aside from keeping it simple.  And yes, to no JavaScript.  Both to make it palatable for darkweb, and i guess Nurb feels client side anything is bad and the web should be a graphical dumb terminal again. ( MWGA? lol ) I guess in the beginning it was that way? I wouldn't know.

The topic actually did come up 'just a new interface to citadel', but neither of us are C people and felt that we were removing so much functionality .. ( i have never learned C, and i guess he has forgot anything he knew. on purpose )

 

As far as blocking people, we were going for more of a private community, than a public forum..  There would barriers to overcome to become a member. Not insurmountable, but not instant access to everyone's thoughts either..



[#] Sat Aug 02 2025 01:55:40 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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The server protocol is well documented and many people have developed clients in other languages.

And since WebCit came out in 1996 and XHR didn't appear until the mid 2000s, it's safe to say that we had little to no javascript for quite some time at the beginning. But what I have in mind for a js-less version is a sort of "lite" version that is messaging-only (no calendars etc.) and presents things like mail and blogs in the same format as forums, similar to how the text client still does today. It would be used for bandwidth and latency constrained environments. I might even write it in another language, or use it to learn a language.

Someday. Right now my plate's full with the mainline stuff.

[#] Wed Aug 06 2025 19:44:55 UTC from Nurb432

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Ya all sorts of options were out there. including that.. but we wanted to start from scratch, 100% python, no JavaScript, make it brain dead simple to use, and not strip features out of something else.  Make it a walled garden, etc ( ya i know, we can do that here too and i did lock it down before i shut my last citadel install down a few years ago due to the nonsense coming in ) 

 

But, project is dead. not worth it. 

 

( and i guess technically not really a trashcan event.. but .. )



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