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[#] Sun Jun 28 2026 15:45:15 EDT from Nurb432

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Well that too. But, if the public schools didnt exist, a lot of kids would get nothing.  Necessary evil i guess.

Sun Jun 28 2026 15:43:06 EDT from SouthernComputerGeek

My position is that the whole "Bible in public schools is constitutional/unconstitutional" debate is a red herring because schools should not be run by the government.



 



[#] Wed Jul 01 2026 07:30:58 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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My position is that the whole "Bible in public schools is
constitutional/unconstitutional" debate is a red herring because
schools should not be run by the government.

You're not wrong about that. The whole structure of levying school taxes and then using them to feed a government monopoly on schools is fundamentally broken.

But as is often said, the perfect is the enemy of the good. Perfect would be school choice, good would be no pedophile warlords in public schools.

Even with school choice though, you're going to end up with funds being sent to "learing centers"

[#] Wed Jul 01 2026 08:35:53 EDT from Nurb432

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Bad thing is there is no easy solution. In general, parents are no longer responsible parents, and due to the poor economy ( not just today, but for a long time now ), few 'good' parents can stay home, and few have the money to spend on 'private schooling' ( which are also normal biased, each in its own way ), so the state gets involved, and anytime that happens, well, we know what happens.

 



[#] Fri Jul 03 2026 00:51:15 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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I think you win. 

 

Sun Jun 28 2026 15:43:06 EDT from SouthernComputerGeek

My position is that the whole "Bible in public schools is constitutional/unconstitutional" debate is a red herring because schools should not be run by the government.



 



[#] Tue Jul 07 2026 07:37:17 EDT from darknetuser

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2026-06-28 15:45 from Nurb432
Well that too. But, if the public schools didnt exist, a lot of kids
would get nothing.  Necessary evil i guess.
"Nothing" would be great for a lot of kids, actually.
In my grandpa's times, if you weren't a good student they sent you to work as an apprentice in some workshop and that generation actually turned out quite ok. Nowadays they force dumbasses and troublemakers to stay in school regardless of their ability to learn anything, and therefore they pass through learning nothing - but they waste time they could have used as apprentices in a workshop.

[#] Tue Jul 07 2026 10:29:14 EDT from Nurb432

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Here the result would be different, they all would end up hooligans, criminals, welfare recipients, and we would fund them via our tax dollars regardless. And an already bad crime rate would skyrocket, everywhere.

Not saying there is an easy answer, but here just tossing them to the streets to fend for themselves would not be it. ( since parents now here are mostly worthless. not all of course, but most, and many that are decent, cant afford to pay separate for school, or stay home and do it )

Tue Jul 07 2026 07:37:17 EDT from darknetuser
2026-06-28 15:45 from Nurb432
Well that too. But, if the public schools didnt exist, a lot of kids
would get nothing.  Necessary evil i guess.
"Nothing" would be great for a lot of kids, actually.
In my grandpa's times, if you weren't a good student they sent you to work as an apprentice in some workshop and that generation actually turned out quite ok. Nowadays they force dumbasses and troublemakers to stay in school regardless of their ability to learn anything, and therefore they pass through learning nothing - but they waste time they could have used as apprentices in a workshop.

 



[#] Sat Jul 18 2026 11:07:57 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Most of that happens anyway.  In many places they're relaxing the requirements for graduation to not even include basic academic competency.

"hooligans" is a fun word because it sounds playful and implies that the people in question are Irish.  Ha ha.

 



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