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[#] Mon May 13 2024 23:44:45 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Same story told from the other side.  So perhaps Xenu is the real and living God, and L. Ron Hubbard is the bad guy, trying to convince his followers that God is the bad guy and just gave him a different name.

It's just a thought experiment.  Some people believe that all religions are equally fake.  I believe that all religions other than Christianity are equally fake.  But some fake religions are more oppressive than others.

Repent; the end is near.



[#] Tue May 14 2024 08:50:06 EDT from Nurb432

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/me sticks his hands up.  lol.

While as we all here know, i dont believe ( and never will ), i do accept that many people need to believe in something better/larger than themselves due to a variety of reasons. its their brain, so their prerogative. Just dont come after me and try to force me to believe the same... ( not saying anyone here does .. just a topical statement )  But, organized religion, i will always feel that they are created to fleece and control the believers.  

 

Speaking of, around here. witnesses ( i think ) randomly setup little stands around town with books and normally 2 operators, and try to stop you as you walk past. Really uncool.  Sure, fly your flag, its a mostly free country, but dont approach me as i'm going past you.  Or come to my door, it says 'no soliciting' for a reason, and yes, regardless of what they think or say they ARE selling something.    And speaking of I need to print some FSM flyers in color, and hand them out next time i see them around. LoL. 

Mon May 13 2024 23:44:45 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

 Some people believe that all religions are equally fake. 

 



[#] Tue May 14 2024 09:36:03 EDT from fandarel

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It's just a thought experiment.  Some people believe that all
religions are equally fake.  I believe that all religions other than

I believe all people are equally fake. I hold no opinion on religion one way or the other. The only thing real in this world is peanut butter. Mmmm.... peanut butter.

[#] Tue May 14 2024 10:04:34 EDT from Nurb432

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My dogs approve of that message.



[#] Wed May 22 2024 16:41:23 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Ladies and gentlemen, may I have your attention please.

I am hereby declaring the papacy of Jorge Mario Bergoglio null and void.

Furthermore, I am assuming the papacy, effective immediately.

As the supreme leader of the roman catholic "church" I am shutting it down.
I hereby order all catholics to go find a new church, preferably an evangelical or protestant church. Be careful, the ones with pride flags are not real.
Find one that teaches from the Bible and not from the book of woke.

Thank you and have a blessed day.

Sincerely,
His Holiness, Pope IGnatius T Foobar
The Real Pope

[#] Thu May 23 2024 06:35:30 EDT from darknetuser

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I am hereby declaring the papacy of Jorge Mario Bergoglio null and

void.

That guy has done quite a lot to discredit the church, but then, I have realized many Catholics are coffee-pub Christians rather than actual Christians. This means they follow the rules they like only and either ignore or purposedly reject the rest. "Sure, the scriptures say homosexuality is to be rejected, but maybe it is time for the Church to evolve and advance forward."

Sorry, no. If you believe the scriptures are teachings and commands from God you cannot ignore them unless a new revelation happens instructing you to do so. Cherry picking makes you a fake and a sucker.

[#] Thu May 23 2024 07:53:21 EDT from Nurb432

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Isn't that true for many? A religion of convenience.   "ill follow what i like, and curse you for not doing it, but if i'm not fond of a part, ill just ignore that and make up an excuse"

Thu May 23 2024 06:35:30 EDT from darknetuser
I have realized many Catholics are coffee-pub Christians rather than actual Christians. 

 



[#] Thu May 30 2024 20:46:46 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Sorry, no. If you believe the scriptures are teachings and commands
from God you cannot ignore them unless a new revelation happens
instructing you to do so. Cherry picking makes you a fake and a sucker.


Correct. And that's why the very end of the Bible warns against removing from or adding to it.

Fake versions of Christianity such as mormon and catholic churches have taken gross liberties with Scripture.

[#] Sat Jun 22 2024 09:25:24 EDT from Nurb432

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<mini-rant ON>

 

States starting to *legally demand* that the 10 commandments be prominently displayed in public school. No, i have a huge problem with that.   Government should not be pushing *any* particular religion on people, of any age. Doing it in public schools to children, its called brainwashing, and it violates individual's rights, and the US Constitution..  Other than from a historical standpoint, religion should stay at home, or your respective 'location of worship", be it a church or a tree.   Personally, i have issues with private schools doing it too, but, that is a parents choice to send them, so no worse than brainwashing them at home. BUT. they should get *zero* tax dollars, tax breaks as *I* should not be forced to fund your particular belief system. ( any more than you have to pay for mine, well if i had any )

If i had a kid in school, and in that state, they would be seeing a lawsuit from me.  Right to SCOTUS we would go.   

 

 

( this is how the FSM was born.. A public school forcing one particular belief down children's throats and one parent stood up and said "no".  in effect. )

 

</mini-rant OFF>



[#] Wed Jun 26 2024 18:07:57 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Unfortunately, you're right about that. The bigger problem is that freedom and liberty in America sort of depend upon the fact that it was built as a Christian nation. (All the usual comments from the peanut gallery about how the founding fathers "weren't really Christians" ... fuck off, they totally were.) Unfortunately the rise of post-Christian America is directly resulting in the rise of post-America America. So if you allow Jesus in the schools you're going to get Satan and his brothers Muhammad and Global Warming as well.

[#] Wed Jun 26 2024 18:35:23 EDT from darknetuser

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2024-06-26 18:07 from IGnatius T Foobar
Unfortunately, you're right about that. The bigger problem is that

freedom and liberty in America sort of depend upon the fact that it was

built as a Christian nation. (All the usual comments from the peanut

gallery about how the founding fathers "weren't really Christians" ...

fuck off, they totally were.) Unfortunately the rise of post-Christian

America is directly resulting in the rise of post-America America. So

if you allow Jesus in the schools you're going to get Satan and his

brothers Muhammad and Global Warming as well.



My opinion is that religious schools have the right to exist but should not be backed with tax money.

The US is an extremely young country, so the next idea might be alien, but... in some countries they have so many historical structures, relics, and infrastructure that you cannot walk two yards without running into yet another 5th Century fortress. A lot of these things are still standing becase one religious group or another has kept them for fucking centuries.

Trying to disociate religion from a nation's culture is foolish when your art and architecture has been preserved by People of the Book for fucking milennia.

In fact I think a good education program would contain at least some notion about the nature of the religions that kept it all together, including really sucky religions that have no place in the modern world but greatly contributed to the current state of things.

What I dislike quite a lot is political powers using school centers as adoctrination workshops, and that includes religious adoctrination... but the religion that affected the area you live in deserves to be studied and often admired for what it had to offer.

And yes, that sometimes means Islam.

[#] Wed Jun 26 2024 19:27:31 EDT from Nurb432

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from a purely historical / fact reference, im ok with it.   "in 1200BC, the religion of bla was created by a guy in a fedora, and they believed in Y and killed any non believers and erected these towers over there, then they died out due to religion B, offering free beer and hookers in the after life"  "now on to the next"

But not "this is the good religion and we should follow its teachings" ( even if i believed in the outcome.. still no. do that at home. )

Wed Jun 26 2024 18:35:23 EDT from darknetuser

In fact I think a good education program would contain at least some notion about the nature of the religions that kept it all together, including really sucky religions that have no place in the modern world but greatly contributed to the current state of things.

 



[#] Fri Jun 28 2024 15:14:51 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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No apologies, I am a hardcore evangelical Christian and my religion is the correct one. That having been said, other people can have their religions right up to the point where they start to violate *my* rights. Anyone who is militant atheist, militant islam, militant global warming, etc. needs to become a martyr for their religion as quickly as possible.

Since the public schools now teach the government religion, other religious schools need to be funded. That should take the form of a voucher system where school tax revenue gets directed to wherever the students actually choose to study.

Also the teachers unions need to be dismantled using extreme violence.

[#] Mon Jul 01 2024 19:36:58 EDT from SouthernComputerGeek

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Tell me the "establishment of religion" that these laws respect? I'll wait.

Sat Jun 22 2024 09:25:24 EDT from Nurb432

States starting to *legally demand* that the 10 commandments be prominently displayed in public school. No, i have a huge problem with that......its called brainwashing, and it violates individual's rights, and the US Constitution.. 



 



[#] Mon Jul 01 2024 19:39:14 EDT from Nurb432

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huh?

Requiring the display of a single religion's teachings in a public facility, is wrong and unconstitutional. Its quite simple.

Mon Jul 01 2024 19:36:58 EDT from SouthernComputerGeek

Tell me the "establishment of religion" that these laws respect? I'll wait.

Sat Jun 22 2024 09:25:24 EDT from Nurb432

States starting to *legally demand* that the 10 commandments be prominently displayed in public school. No, i have a huge problem with that......its called brainwashing, and it violates individual's rights, and the US Constitution.. 



 



 



[#] Mon Jul 01 2024 19:44:04 EDT from SouthernComputerGeek

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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" that is the religion clause in the first amendment. The motivation behind this was to prevent a state church. In other words, the primary reason this was written was to protect churches from the government.

 

Now tell me, what is the "establishment of religion" these laws respect?

Mon Jul 01 2024 19:39:14 EDT from Nurb432

huh?

Requiring the display of a single religion's teachings in a public facility, is wrong and unconstitutional. Its quite simple.

Mon Jul 01 2024 19:36:58 EDT from SouthernComputerGeek

Tell me the "establishment of religion" that these laws respect? I'll wait.

Sat Jun 22 2024 09:25:24 EDT from Nurb432

States starting to *legally demand* that the 10 commandments be prominently displayed in public school. No, i have a huge problem with that......its called brainwashing, and it violates individual's rights, and the US Constitution.. 



 



 



 



[#] Mon Jul 01 2024 19:48:17 EDT from Nurb432

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Same as in the free speech arena, we will have to agree to disagree. Apparently there is no middle ground.

 

And if i still had a child in school, and they tried that there, they would be sued so fast it would make their head spin.  While technically any legal citizen could sue, with the way the courts are today, they would blow it off as 'you don't have standing' unless your kid was there. 



[#] Mon Jul 01 2024 22:48:47 EDT from zelgomer

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Get the government out of the education business, problem solved.

[#] Tue Jul 02 2024 07:08:14 EDT from Nurb432

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Yep.

Mon Jul 01 2024 22:48:47 EDT from zelgomer
Get the government out of the education business, problem solved.

 



[#] Thu Jul 04 2024 13:20:43 EDT from SouthernComputerGeek

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Now THERE is something we all agree on!

Tue Jul 02 2024 07:08:14 EDT from Nurb432

Yep.

Mon Jul 01 2024 22:48:47 EDT from zelgomer
Get the government out of the education business, problem solved.

 



 



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