At times we called it "Workplace entry fee" or "got your papers" sort of stuff when i was in college. We all knew that in the end it didn't really matter much, but it was just part of the game.
( tho i did learn a bit, not as much as some as i was also doing after hours tutoring for some of my classmates, but i wont say it was totally worthless for me )
Tue Dec 02 2025 13:33:17 UTC from darknetuser
Heck, when I walked out of college it turned out my degree was only one piece required for jobs. MOAR was needed. Which is fun because after you undergo an official course you learn nothing, you are just paying to get a paper.
Fun part is nobody here uses cast iron anymore. In fact I don't think
cast iron was ever popular outside of certain niches - industrial
workers doing long shifts out of home used big iron pots for the
working crew. For fireplace cooking, the traditional thing to use was
ceramic and stoneware.
I use mine all the time. In the US cast iron is popular among people who really know how to cook and can appreciate its qualities.
Normies stick with their stainless steel.
I think it's time to change my connectivity. Working on it now.
www.citadel.org (and related sites such as search.citadel.org, code.citadel.org, etc) have been running great on the new connectivity for about a week now.
dev.citadel.org moved yesterday. I'm going to let it run for a few days before I attempt to move uncensored.citadel.org
As I mentioned earlier, I was reluctant to move away from Ace Innovative's static IP VPN solution, because they've always been good to me and I had some loyalty. But the sudden removal of IPv6 without an explanation was a pretty bad development. And tonight -- I finally found out the real problem: they've moved their whole damn operation into AWS. And they didn't bother to plumb IPv6 into the cloud.
So I'll be leaving Ace without regrets. It's been great but now it's time to move on. uncensored.citadel.org will soon have blazing fast connectivity.
Perhaps the cost? Or that managing it in AWS is a nightmare?
Or, they are just lazy. lol.
Wed Dec 03 2025 02:49:48 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar. And tonight -- I finally found out the real problem: they've moved their whole damn operation into AWS. And they didn't bother to plumb IPv6 into the cloud.
The new connectivity is working out really well so far. I'll probably move Uncensored during the Christmas break because there will probably be some email hiccups during the cutover and I can't afford to be without reliable email this week or next week.
And you run, and you run to catch up with the sun, but it's sinking
Racing around to come up behind you again
The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
Shorter of breath, and one day closer to death
Another circle of Citadelphia on Uncensored. Lobby to Lobby and .Terminate Quit
Yup, you can do IPv6 on the AWS cloud, but that's got limitations and it's not just seamless and end-to-end. Kinda like the whole internet.
So now they must have just changed it over to some boring old instance of xl2tpd or similar running in a virtual machine instance. They clearly don't consider it a valuable service anymore, and anyway I have no interest in being just another service running in the AWS us-east-1 cesspool. I've got my router-in-the-cloud at OVH now, two orders of magnitude more bandwidth and at a lower cost than what I was paying before, plus I have full control of the "front door" so I can apply security policy there instead of here.
dev.citadel.org, www.citadel.org, and all web properties except for Uncensored have already been moved. I'll move Uncensored during the Christmas break because this week I can't afford a day or two of spotty email while Goolag figures out that yes, we really are at a new address.
I wonder how that works, since the ISP owns the block you are coming from.. ( at least for v4, donno how v6 works in that regard, but id think it would be similar, but i dont claim to be an expert in v6.. at all )
Tue Dec 09 2025 04:56:19 UTC from IGnatius T FoobarAWS "bring your own IP" offering,
It's the same process as bringing a registered block of addresses to any ISP. You submit an ROA to prove that you own the block and are permitting them to announce it ... and they announce it. And then they route it into your AWS account.
The problem is that they only offer that service on IPv4. I think their rationale is that the scarcity of IPv4 relative to IPv6 is the reason why someone with address holdings would want to bring their own if they have them.
This seems to be the pattern for local ISPs who stay in business doing other things. Sic transit gloria mundi. Some move to nearby colocation centers, others are pathetic and move to the cloud.
I remember trying to reserve a block for myself back in the early 90s, it was a total nightmare and they didn't even want to talk to me, so never got it.
I also remember the nightmare it was to move my domain at one point. I forget their name, but i think it was with the only game in town at first for registrations. ( netsol perhaps? i donno )
Just got some time to get my Citadel back together (just a private mail server right now), and thought I'd drop back in. Saw some people from the old old days had dropped in back in April .. I was apparently here back in March, and then life turned into an absolute Circus (not that it's been anything *but* for the last 2 decades, but it became even more circusy)
Someone mentioned Cynbe, the original Citadel author.. looked him up a while back, and unfortunately he passed about 9 years ago now. I think most of the original Citadel clone devs have gone that way now, at least the one's that I can remember. Both Cynbe and K2NE passed about the same time, I think Hue, Jr was some years before that, but I can't find any info. Asgard dev I can't locate. Those were the only variants that ever made it in my area.
Anyway.. popping back in to see what's good in the hood... how's things?
Chilly here. 0F this morning.
Anyway.. popping back in to see what's good in the hood... how's things?
Both Cynbe and K2NE passed about the same time, I think Hue, Jr
was some years before that, but I can't find any info. Asgard
dev I can't locate. Those were the only variants that ever
made it in my area.
Jeff Prothero (Cynbe) and Vince Quaresima (K2NE) both did indeed pass during the 2010's , I don't remember exactly which years but Vince was a great guy and so much fun to pal around with online. I miss him and regret that I never got to meet him in person.
I don't recall hearing anything about Hue Jr. since the mid 2000's. There's an obituary for a Hue White Sr. in Minnesota, who died at age 73 in 2014.
That might have been his dad, since he'd be 84 now and the obituary mentioned a son named Hue.
Anyway, welcome back. It's good to see you.