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[#] Mon Apr 14 2025 18:25:54 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Citadel Server sudden stop and restart fails with error DBD2055

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However, just to re-confirm in my particular case disk is no issue at
all. I have around 470GiB free on the file system where the database
resides. So question is still how I can understand what causes the
SIGSEGV crash on the citadel server. 

If you have a core dump you can do a stack trace against it. If not, you can run citserver in the debugger. Like this:

systemctl stop citserver
cd /usr/local/citadel
gdb ./citserver
gdb> run -x9
[ wait for it to crash ]
gdb> thread apply all bt

Then post the output here.

[#] Sat Apr 26 2025 19:56:25 UTC from p.agsten

Subject: Re: Citadel Server sudden stop and restart fails with error DBD2055

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Mo Apr 14 2025 18:25:54 UTC von IGnatius T Foobar Betreff: Re: Citadel Server sudden stop and restart fails with error DBD2055
However, just to re-confirm in my particular case disk is no issue at
all. I have around 470GiB free on the file system where the database
resides. So question is still how I can understand what causes the
SIGSEGV crash on the citadel server. 

If you have a core dump you can do a stack trace against it. If not, you can run citserver in the debugger. Like this:

systemctl stop citserver
cd /usr/local/citadel
gdb ./citserver
gdb> run -x9
[ wait for it to crash ]
gdb> thread apply all bt

Then post the output here.

With some logfile watching I was able to track the issue back to two iOS devices. As soon as these start syncing IMAP the server crashes and executes automatic restart. I disabled the devices and did export and re-import of database. Server was stable after. Re-nable on device was triggering the crashes again. Went then and updated server to 1011. So far server has not crahed again even with the Apple devices synching. Will watch, let's hope this did the trick.  



[#] Sun Apr 27 2025 10:11:01 UTC from p.agsten

Subject: Delete specific message number

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Dear All,

I am getting again message not found errors in the syslog:

Apr 27 11:12:55 [hostname]citserver[172369]: citserver[172369]: msgbase: error; invalid preloaded message for output
Apr 27 11:12:55 [hostname]citserver[172369]: msgbase: message #93638 was not found
Apr 27 11:12:55 [hostname]citserver[172369]: message repeated 2 times: [ msgbase: message #93638 was not found]
Apr 27 11:12:55 [hostname]citserver[172369]: msgbase: error; invalid preloaded message for output
Apr 27 11:12:56 [hostname]citserver[172369]: citserver[172369]: msgbase: message #93647 was not found
Apr 27 11:12:56 [hostname]citserver[172369]: citserver[172369]: msgbase: message #93647 was not found
Apr 27 11:12:56 [hostname]citserver[172369]: msgbase: message #93647 was not found
Apr 27 11:12:56 [hostname]citserver[172369]: citserver[172369]: msgbase: message #93647 was not found
Apr 27 11:12:56 [hostname]citserver[172369]: citserver[172369]: msgbase: error; invalid preloaded message for output
Apr 27 11:12:56 [hostname]citserver[172369]: msgbase: message #93647 was not found
Apr 27 11:12:56 [hostname]citserver[172369]: msgbase: message #93647 was not found
Apr 27 11:12:56 [hostname]citserver[172369]: msgbase: error; invalid preloaded message for output
Apr 27 11:51:12 [hostname]citserver[172369]: citserver[172369]: msgbase: message #140726346663536 was not found
Apr 27 11:51:12 [hostname]citserver[172369]: msgbase: message #140726346663536 was not found

Believe ther was a way to target and remove these message references from the system using the console interface but I can't recall how this was done. Also did not find this in the documentation. Can somebody remind me on the procedure, please.

Thanks! 



[#] Sun Apr 27 2025 20:30:58 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Citadel Server sudden stop and restart fails with error DBD2055

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triggering the crashes again. Went then and updated server to 1011. So

far server has not crahed again even with the Apple devices synching.

Ok, if you get the crashes again, run citserver in the debugger and get a stack trace.

[#] Thu May 01 2025 09:26:51 UTC from Motobike

Subject: Re: First Room

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Hi Ignatius,

but where will it be defined ? First start citadel, it will defined in a config that starts webcit with parameters X. 

 

Do Feb 13 2025 23:38:47 UTC von IGnatius T Foobar Betreff: Re: First Room
What you mean with [other options] ?

WebCit is normally called with options to specify the port number it's listening on, whether to enable HTTPS, and the directory where Citadel Server can be found.

For example, here are the commands we are using to start WebCit here:

webcit -x1 -s -p 443 -g /dotgoto?room='Welcome to UNCENSORED!' uds /citadel-data
webcit -x1 -p 80 -g /dotgoto?room='Welcome to UNCENSORED!' uds /citadel-data

(Most sites will have two, one for HTTP and one for HTTPS, but if you have Citadel sitting behind a proxy or if you have some other webserver redirecting HTTP to HTTPS you might only have one.)

 



[#] Thu May 01 2025 10:06:55 UTC from Motobike

Subject: Re: First Room

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Sorry for the dumb question :)

 

There was a missing Information to edit it in systemd.

nano /etc/systemd/system/webcit-https.service

nano /etc/systemd/system/webcit-http.service

 

[Unit]

Description=Citadel web service with encryption

After=citadel.target

[Service]

ExecStart=/usr/local/webcit/webcit -s -p443 -g /dotgoto?room='MBF' uds /usr/local/citadel

ExecReload=/bin/kill

KillMode=process

Restart=always

RestartSec=3

[Install]

WantedBy=multi-user.target

 
After changing it.
 
#systemctl daemon-reload
 
Works :)
 
Thanks for your great work.
 

 

Do Mai 01 2025 09:26:51 UTC von Motobike Betreff: Re: First Room

Hi Ignatius,

but where will it be defined ? First start citadel, it will defined in a config that starts webcit with parameters X. 

 

Do Feb 13 2025 23:38:47 UTC von IGnatius T Foobar Betreff: Re: First Room
What you mean with [other options] ?

WebCit is normally called with options to specify the port number it's listening on, whether to enable HTTPS, and the directory where Citadel Server can be found.

For example, here are the commands we are using to start WebCit here:

webcit -x1 -s -p 443 -g /dotgoto?room='Welcome to UNCENSORED!' uds /citadel-data
webcit -x1 -p 80 -g /dotgoto?room='Welcome to UNCENSORED!' uds /citadel-data

(Most sites will have two, one for HTTP and one for HTTPS, but if you have Citadel sitting behind a proxy or if you have some other webserver redirecting HTTP to HTTPS you might only have one.)

 



 



[#] Fri May 02 2025 08:20:43 UTC from Motobike

Subject: Problem with "Insert Links"

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Hi there,

i got problems with insert links after update to 1011. Same here...

 

Greetings

Mike

 



[#] Sat May 03 2025 20:34:14 UTC from luisgo

Subject: Message with more than 40 destinataries

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Good Night (here),

I use Thunderbird as email client.

Due to I am being now unemployed I send lots of emails advertizing me. I use an email template and the plugin/extension Merge to send a batch of emails.

When I send a batch of several emails and store the template email in a folder in the citadel server I notice that I have only access to about 40 emails addresses (i.e. when I do a reply to all from the email template) when the template have much more than 40 destinataries. When I store in a local folder or in another email server (e.g. Microsoft Exchange) I have access to all the emails addresses. 

I suppose this is a limitation of the Citadel Email Server.

It is normal that I send batches greater than 100 emails each.

Could it be solved?

Thank you,

Luís Gonçalves.

 



[#] Tue May 06 2025 02:23:14 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Problem with "Insert Links"

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i got problems with insert links after update to 1011. Same here...

Maybe try from another browser or clear your cache?   It seems to work for me.



[#] Tue May 06 2025 02:25:09 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Message with more than 40 destinataries

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I suppose this is a limitation of the Citadel Email Server.

It is normal that I send batches greater than 100 emails each.

Could it be solved?

I believe there is a limit of 1024 characters.  I don't quite remember whether that's in total or for each of to/cc/bcc, but it's a character limit, not an address limit.



[#] Tue May 06 2025 11:10:54 UTC from luisgo

Subject: Re: Message with more than 40 destinataries

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Good Afternoon,

Cloud you please increase to say 4096 or 8192 charaters instead of 1024?

Or it has difficult implications on the database?

Thank you,

Luís Gonçalves.

Tue May 06 2025 02:25:09 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: Message with more than 40 destinataries

 

I suppose this is a limitation of the Citadel Email Server.

It is normal that I send batches greater than 100 emails each.

Could it be solved?

I believe there is a limit of 1024 characters.  I don't quite remember whether that's in total or for each of to/cc/bcc, but it's a character limit, not an address limit.



 



[#] Tue May 06 2025 15:03:09 UTC from luisgo

Subject: Re: Message with more than 40 destinataries

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I hope this time I am not being rude. Thank you.

Tue May 06 2025 11:10:54 UTC from luisgo Subject: Re: Message with more than 40 destinataries

Good Afternoon,

Cloud you please increase to say 4096 or 8192 charaters instead of 1024?

Or it has difficult implications on the database?

Thank you,

Luís Gonçalves.

Tue May 06 2025 02:25:09 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: Message with more than 40 destinataries

 

I suppose this is a limitation of the Citadel Email Server.

It is normal that I send batches greater than 100 emails each.

Could it be solved?

I believe there is a limit of 1024 characters.  I don't quite remember whether that's in total or for each of to/cc/bcc, but it's a character limit, not an address limit.



 



 



[#] Wed May 07 2025 02:15:20 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Message with more than 40 destinataries

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Cloud you please increase to say 4096 or 8192 charaters instead
of 1024?

Or it has difficult implications on the database?

The database should be able to support it. The bigger problem is the protocol, which accepts commands no longer than 1024 characters. It's a little different from SMTP, which accepts additional recipients one line at a time. Probably if you used SMTP you could go bigger. It's been a while since I've tested it.

It's a legitimate concern, and something we'll likely be working on. But unfortunately it's not a quick fix.

[#] Wed May 07 2025 17:49:54 UTC from MisterC

Subject: Initial web access pops 503 error.

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Since updating to 1012, the first access of the website issues a 503 error:

This program was unable to connect or stay connected to the Citadel server. Please report this problem to your system administrator.

If you reload, it works and stays working.  If you navigate away for a while (half hourish?) and go back you get the error again.

 

In the log, I see a message like:

2025-05-07T17:41:59.145989868Z webcit[8]: StrBuf_ServGetln(): Server connection broken: Resource temporarily unavailable


This is a private/testing instance so I'm the only user, so I can't comment if other users have this problem.

I am not sure if I broke something or it's a regression from 1011 to 1012

 

Thanks!



[#] Wed May 07 2025 18:21:02 UTC from Motobike

Subject: Re: Initial web access pops 503 error.

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Do you have set a Session limit in the options ?

 

Mi Mai 07 2025 17:49:54 UTC von MisterC Betreff: Initial web access pops 503 error.

Since updating to 1012, the first access of the website issues a 503 error:

This program was unable to connect or stay connected to the Citadel server. Please report this problem to your system administrator.

If you reload, it works and stays working.  If you navigate away for a while (half hourish?) and go back you get the error again.

 

In the log, I see a message like:

2025-05-07T17:41:59.145989868Z webcit[8]: StrBuf_ServGetln(): Server connection broken: Resource temporarily unavailable


This is a private/testing instance so I'm the only user, so I can't comment if other users have this problem.

I am not sure if I broke something or it's a regression from 1011 to 1012

 

Thanks!



 



[#] Thu May 08 2025 23:27:04 UTC from MisterC

Subject: Re: Initial web access pops 503 error.

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I just double checked and concurrent session limit is set to 0.

 

Thank you

 



[#] Sat May 10 2025 19:25:44 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Initial web access pops 503 error.

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I just double checked and concurrent session limit is set to 0.

So ... did changing that to some nonzero value fix it?

[#] Sat May 10 2025 22:41:57 UTC from Motobike

Subject: Re: Initial web access pops 503 error.

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Got same Error and set befor session limit to 50. After setting to 0, i got no error anymore. 

Sa Mai 10 2025 19:25:44 UTC von IGnatius T Foobar Betreff: Re: Initial web access pops 503 error.
I just double checked and concurrent session limit is set to 0.

So ... did changing that to some nonzero value fix it?

 



[#] Fri May 16 2025 03:33:50 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Wheeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!

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Tonight I finally finished the room editing and configuration screens in WebCit-NG. It took way longer than I planned (like the whole project has gone) but it's absolutely gorgeous compared to its predecessor (again, like the whole project).

Now to decide which piece to work on next. Wiki? Address books? Chat?
Doesn't matter, I guess, since it can't be released until it reaches feature parity with WebCit Classic.

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