Was just trying to say that in this country it does not apply to criminals here illegally.  It applies to our citizens, even ones that came here legally. But these people, no it does not apply to them. Nor do most other rights.

Other countries, YMMV. 

Wed Mar 20 2024 19:43:05 EDT from darknetuser

 is not american only.

Once again: a RIGHT cannot be given, it can only be taken away.

In the natural state of things, we have the right to protect and defend ourselves using weapons.  We do not have a right to be given a weapon, any more than we have the right to be given a loaf of bread or a car or a house or medical care.

As for safes, there are basically three things against which you would protect your belongings by storing them in one:

1. Fire
2. Theft
3. Tampering

Guns are stored in safes primarily to protect them from tampering.  Responsible gun owners do not want stray hands touching their firearms while unattended.  (Insert your favorite anti-2A corollary here.)  A strong metallic closet with a halfway decent lock is fine here unless you have an unusually valuable collection.

"Gun safes" are, obviously, no longer considered trustworthy now that we know that the manufacturer will give a working combination to the gestapo simply for the asking.

In my home, documents that are valuable to us (and no one else) are kept in a fireproof, but unlocked, metal box.  We keep less than USD$200 cash in the house and we don't really have any super-valuable items in the house, for example neither my wife nor my daughter have a lot of expensive jewelry.  You wanna take my laptop?  Fine, it's 12 years old and the size and weight of a paver stone.  Take what you want and get out.

I have a small fire proof box too. However, its locked.  Not out of 'theft' concern as they can carry it away and cut it open, but if we get hit with a tornado or something, or having to grab it in a bug-out situation, i dont want it to fly open by accident.    But, since keys can be lost in the heat of the moment making it a pain to get open later, the key is IN the thing.  Just turned to locked position.  ( really miss having a safety box at the bank... )

I have heard there are fixes for the recent gun safe issue. However, you have to trust your locksmith  ( or learn how to do it yourself )

Town up north or me, which is collapsing due to a Democrat mayor that refuses to deal with crime: "City officials have decided not to invest in planned gunshot detection system and instead invest 1 million in smart tasers" ( yes, 1 million )

Now i do think the sound detection stuff is silly, but 'smart taser'?  Turns out they have a 'built in escalation reduction system' and i guess it beeps and flashes a light before it goes off. WTF? Shoot the damned thing, now...  Don't wave a flag "hey perp, here is your target, shoot here before it goes off"

And really, in this day and age, tasers are stupid too. Just "off" the criminal. Its just going to get more cops dead.

Not read the rule yet, but the expected rule about basically banning private sales has dropped.

Forcing everyone to file for, pay for and follow the invasive rules, and become an FFL.

Not a peep from Armslist about this. And I just noticed this at the bottom of armslist.com --> "Always comply with local, state, federal, and international law"

International law? And you call yourselves Americans. The acceptance of "international law" is a threat to America. Seriously, some European country's court stopped its government from sending aid to Israel because 'it might violate international law'. To accept international law is to forsake your own country's laws.

The day I fear is the day we have federal courts placing "international law" above American laws.

In some ways, that has already happened.

Fri Apr 12 2024 10:17:05 EDT from msgrhys

The day I fear is the day we have federal courts placing "international law" above American laws.

I have personally seemed tazed people just get pissed off. Rip them out of their chest and attack.

I have a unique situation where i work with a police unit at times so i get to know them a little better than 'out on the street'. 

Now, i wont pretend or lie and say all cops are good, as of course not, there is bad in every group. However, other than being a bit of a self-righteous jerk, which goes with the territory, most of them are actually good people.  Most want to do what is right AND go home in one piece..

reading/hearing more about the new rule:

I guess even if you just causally talk about buying or selling with a friend or relative without a FFL, and not even acting on the discussion, its still a felony.  

WTF has happened to this country.