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[#] Sat Mar 20 2021 08:42:35 EDT from Nurb432

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Advantage to 3D printers is you can build your own from scratch, and control the firmware. And unlike trying to build your own laser printer, its not hard at all. They can try to stop home builds, but as along as you can get replacement parts that are hard to make ( like the hot ends.. ) that will be about impossible to stop. That said, I do see some sort of registration being required when you buy them here soon, as an attempt to come after them. Or buy parts and supplies in the states.  "They are dangerous devices! " And not just due to firearms from this topic, but the copyright trolls are attacking them really bad and do want to setup a database of 'disallowed' prints you have to check in with first. Will only take one well funded one to buy a law and its downhill from there.         Tho i guess you could buy a super cheap one so you could buy supplies easily, then do all your printing on your 'ghost printer' ( i hate that ghost term BTW, its FUD )

As far as 3D printing a firearm, a lot depends on which components you print and the plastic you use, the caliber, and functional layout you are targeting ( no pun there.. ).  Tons of plastic framed firearms on the commercial market. i carry a commercial one daily and dont think twice. If i had to print a frame, id not think twice. ( but i have a machine shop in the garage to do the metal bits properly, and today, legally..  Tomorrow, who knows. )

CAD software, i wont be surprised if they try to register them as munitions, and take them of of places like github since it allows sharing to restricted countries. ( as an excuse ). Much like they tried with things like PGP in the beginning. ( i still have a copy of windows 1.0, with an export restriction sticker.  how far we have come.. )

CAD files and books like from Luty or Holmes will get banned here really soon i suspect.  They tried to ban CAD files once before and DO ban some subjects from ever being published.

 

  

Fri Mar 19 2021 11:11:09 EDT from zooer

Rumor has it that everything you print, scan or fax with your HP network connect printer goes through HP servers. The same thing will probably happen with 3D printers, they will know what you print. 



 



[#] Sat Mar 20 2021 08:45:09 EDT from Nurb432

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Which as long as its semi auto, its totally legal to do so. ( tho i disagree that its legal to stop full auto as that law is unconstitutional ). Of course they are trying to change that, just look at the attacks on 80% AR lowers and shutting down of Polymer 80, and raiding their customers. 

Fri Mar 19 2021 09:46:17 EDT from darknetuser
 Including detailed instructions for manufacturing A FUCKING MAC 11. So good job there ATF.

 



[#] Sat Mar 20 2021 08:56:09 EDT from Nurb432

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I think if i had bought one I might cut it into 3 pieces, take pictures of its destruction, then seal it in a block Lucite or something like a paper weight to present for when they come knocking . "You want that old thing? Well, see, its just a novelty item and i treated it as such. I didnt know that it was wrong so i never contacted you. I'm sorry, and here is my attorneys phone number ".    As they will come knocking.. 

And no, i  didnt get one. I dont need yet another dust collector as i personally think full auto is a waste of ammo, so id have never cut it out, or ever intend to "someday".  ( now, 3 round burst or something, i have a different opinion on ) 

I feel the same about bump stocks.. they are silly. They make your gun less accurate and waste ammo. BUT i'd argue for the right of someone else to own one if they want one.. 

Fri Mar 19 2021 09:46:17 EDT from darknetuser
From the link: The ATF asks anyone who has an autokey card to contact their local ATF office. By contacting the ATF, gun owners are not avoiding prosecution. The ATF does not promise amnesty from charges.

 



[#] Mon Apr 05 2021 16:40:20 EDT from Nurb432

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Now they are raiding companies and citizens who bought too much stuff. ( in this case 80% lowers. which are not even regulated. they can f-off )



[#] Mon Apr 12 2021 16:54:06 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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A quick scan of current events, witnessing the mobs of uninformed animals animated by establishment troublemakers, makes it clear that we are entering an era where it is certainly to have a full auto. A threat which presents itself as a dense, target-rich environment is exactly what a full auto is good at stopping. Every round will contact a target.

[#] Mon Apr 12 2021 17:15:16 EDT from Nurb432

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Having fired a selective fire rifle more than once,  I would venture to say most would be wasted, especially in the hands of a regular citizen, in a time of stress. Sure its impressive, and intimating, to the untrained to have that much lead coming at you but most of that lead isn't even close.

But i agree that we are entering dark times. Its only just beginning 

Mon Apr 12 2021 16:54:06 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

A quick scan of current events, witnessing the mobs of uninformed animals animated by establishment troublemakers, makes it clear that we are entering an era where it is certainly to have a full auto. A threat which presents itself as a dense, target-rich environment is exactly what a full auto is good at stopping. Every round will contact a target.

 



[#] Tue Apr 13 2021 02:27:10 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Statements such as these should be made with caution, as we enter a state of increasing pressure to enact red flag laws. 

The intent to defend yourself against angry mobs is clearly a danger sign that you're looking to create conflict - from the perspective of those who endorse the dangerous mobs. 

 



[#] Tue Apr 13 2021 07:41:39 EDT from Nurb432

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Tho i tend to agree, once its out in full force, its not going to matter what you say.  They will just make it up.

Tue Apr 13 2021 02:27:10 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

Statements such as these should be made with caution, as we enter a state of increasing pressure to enact red flag laws. 

The intent to defend yourself against angry mobs is clearly a danger sign that you're looking to create conflict - from the perspective of those who endorse the dangerous mobs. 

 



 



[#] Tue Apr 13 2021 13:44:19 EDT from darknetuser

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2021-04-12 17:15 from Nurb432
Having fired a selective fire rifle more than once,  I would venture
to say most would be wasted, especially in the hands of a regular
citizen, in a time of stress. Sure its impressive, and intimating, to
the untrained to have that much lead coming at you but most of that
lead isn't even close.


I though the point isn't that most lead hits, it is that "some" does.

[#] Tue Apr 13 2021 14:24:15 EDT from Nurb432

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Right, i was just replying to an earlier comment about them all being on target.   Which under normal situations is not true.



[#] Tue Apr 13 2021 15:47:44 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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I am actually surprised that some lunatic didn't leverage the kind of crowd density I was seeing in the BLM/AntiFA protests to enact MASS carnage. They had a habit of getting themselves into box canyons, too. As long as a shooter kept the muzzle down and pointed in the general direction - it would have been mass casualties. They were putting themselves into crowds where it would be difficult to MISS if you were wearing a blindfold. 

 

Tue Apr 13 2021 14:24:15 EDT from Nurb432

Right, i was just replying to an earlier comment about them all being on target.   Which under normal situations is not true.



 



[#] Tue Apr 13 2021 16:13:11 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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That can't happen. Antifa/BLM and mass shooters are on the same side.

[#] Tue Apr 13 2021 16:51:32 EDT from Nurb432

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True, but if one does not get the memo... accidents do happen.

Tue Apr 13 2021 16:13:11 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
That can't happen. Antifa/BLM and mass shooters are on the same side.

 



[#] Wed Apr 14 2021 11:17:43 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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It seems a lot of these folks are just motivated by the chance to be famous... and their allegiance to one side or the other has more to do with how much personal fame or infamy they'll receive for their act. 

So, to me, it just takes ONE potential mass shooter realizing just how much infamy he would receive for committing an act like this - especially if HIGHLY successful. 

It is like they're lining up and creating an opportunity for some wackjob who craves attention to go down in history as "The most lethal mass shooter in history." 




[#] Wed Apr 14 2021 11:49:58 EDT from Nurb432

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it would help the agenda. 

Wed Apr 14 2021 11:17:43 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

 "The most lethal mass shooter in history." 




 



[#] Wed Apr 14 2021 14:02:09 EDT from test2

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suspiciously so.  its why false flags exist. people are gullible and never think the farmers will attack the livestock.

Wed Apr 14 2021 11:49:58 AM EDT from Nurb432

it would help the agenda. 

Wed Apr 14 2021 11:17:43 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

 "The most lethal mass shooter in history." 




 



 



[#] Wed Apr 14 2021 15:47:48 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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So then we agree - the only thing that prevented it from happening is that the people who engage in this kind of behavior were too dumb to realize it was the *perfect* opportunity for them to achieve their goals. 

 

Which is good. Their stupidity is all we've got going for us, right now. Fortunately, it seems to be bottomless. 

 



[#] Thu Apr 15 2021 07:46:20 EDT from nonservator

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Wed Apr 14 2021 02:02:09 PM EDT from test2

suspiciously so.  its why false flags exist. people are gullible and never think the farmers will attack the livestock.

Wed Apr 14 2021 11:49:58 AM EDT from Nurb432

it would help the agenda. 

Wed Apr 14 2021 11:17:43 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

 "The most lethal mass shooter in history." 




 



 



They'll never beat Sam Hyde. He can't keep getting away with it.



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