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[#] Mon Sep 11 2023 17:34:23 EDT from darknetuser

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Really? You mean you trust the god that let upwards of 10 million die

in the holocaust? ( perhaps 1/2 of that devote followers ) . Or got a

burr and flooded the entire planet, perhaps killing billions of
humans and trillions of animals? Or countless other mass events..


The one that allowed my young cat to get an incurable infection and

die at 4?  And a few personal stories i wont repeat here.


Sorry about your cat.

If I were a religious person I would tell you that God did take your cat at 4, but also gave you 4 years with him.

I have had dogs die before their first birthday. I have had foals die at 1. It sucks when they go early, but still such short time was a gift.

(I am not argung about God causing catastrophes, because most people is evil, so causing catastrophes in spades and killing people counts as a good thing more often than not).

[#] Mon Sep 11 2023 18:29:26 EDT from nonservator

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Darn that pesky problem of evil. If only we still had Google to tell us what wasn't evil.



[#] Mon Sep 11 2023 19:45:42 EDT from Nurb432

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lol



[#] Wed Sep 13 2023 01:56:05 EDT from test2

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you guys have been around the sun way to many times to be still blaming god for what the devil does. carnal smarts do not equal wisdom. free will means you really must have a choice to make. the demonic is real and they's still kicking your butts. - you believing their lies. reality= you live on a demon infested rock and they have the upper hand- until - *you* make a decision.  choose wisely every day. god already made his move, he's waiting for you to make your move. till then - happy ass kicking. they don't teach you this in church, because it's a business. it's exactly why jesus hated religion and beat the cheats with whips- because the cheats liked their cheats. at least you and jesus are like minded in this respect.



[#] Wed Sep 13 2023 02:14:01 EDT from LadySerenaKitty

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To quote Sir Sic - "God doesn't real."

God is fake.  Lucifur is fake.  Jesus never lived.  All organized religion does is spread lies and falsehoods, creating false hope.  Praying doesn't do shit.  If you want shit done, do it yourself (or hire someone to do it).

You are the architect of your destiny.  Every choice you have made in your entire life has lead you to this point.  I don't believe in anything anymoar.  I trust facts that can be tested and confirmed.  No faith here.  Given how my life has gone and the struggles I has faced, I am happy with where I am right meow.

Believe whatever you want.  This is a place to talk about religiosity, not proselytize to others about your imaginary magic sky friend.

Wed Sep 13 2023 01:56:05 EDT from test2

you guys have been around the sun way to many times to be still blaming god for what the devil does. carnal smarts do not equal wisdom. free will means you really must have a choice to make. the demonic is real and they's still kicking your butts. - you believing their lies. reality= you live on a demon infested rock and they have the upper hand- until - *you* make a decision.  choose wisely every day. god already made his move, he's waiting for you to make your move. till then - happy ass kicking. they don't teach you this in church, because it's a business. it's exactly why jesus hated religion and beat the cheats with whips- because the cheats liked their cheats. at least you and jesus are like minded in this respect.



 



[#] Wed Sep 13 2023 07:19:20 EDT from Nurb432

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Sorry, didnt mean to start anything here.  Was just somewhat dark-amused at the sign as it flew past. Personally i say none of it is real, just that they were believers, yet they look up to such a cruel entity..



[#] Wed Sep 13 2023 19:14:26 EDT from darknetuser

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God is fake.  Lucifur is fake.  Jesus never lived.  All organized

I dare say lots of scholars agree that Jesus existed as an actual historical individual. Whether he was divine or not is the question of faith.

[#] Wed Sep 13 2023 19:50:36 EDT from Nurb432

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i do to lean towards that as well. Enough cross-history stories to say he existed as a human. While the stories are greatly embellished of course to fit the narrative, i doubt they all would lie about the person's existence, especially back then as it would be really hard to coordinate.  

Now, the supposed links to the magic octopus, that is more easily dismissed.

Wed Sep 13 2023 19:14:26 EDT from darknetuser
I dare say lots of scholars agree that Jesus existed as an actual historical individual. Whether he was divine or not is the question of faith.

 



[#] Wed Sep 13 2023 20:00:41 EDT from Nurb432

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But then again, anyone remember the book "The Necronomicon' that came out in 1980?  

It was taken as gospel in that world for a long time. Across the planet.  Even had 3rd party verification.  Until one day the 'owner' ( Simon, pen name, i forget his real name ) stepped up, "ya, its all fake, i made it up, its just a story"... "lol".  But some people still believe it and find references to verify their belief.  Sounds familiar ... 

looked online for the date, as i forget now.. been to long ( March 1 1980 ) and I guess its still being sold.. geez   Not sure if its still in print tho.    

 

( side note, i was a kid and like many my age during that time, i was into that stuff then, and even to me just 'read' like fiction. Cool fiction for that genre, but still, fiction. Just recently i finally tossed my paperback copy. Found it in the bottom of a box of other books..I never did get the super expensive cool carved leather edition. )



[#] Thu Sep 14 2023 00:26:52 EDT from test2

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get it right, it's sky daddy. you're much younger that the rest here.

 

https://youtu.be/W2msh0jut2Y?si=LgffV9E9Z9zCKI3N

 

you gots some demons that need kicking out. heylel's got your tail.  sorry you've been so tormented.

 

Wed Sep 13 2023 02:14:01 AM EDT from LadySerenaKitty

To quote Sir Sic - "God doesn't real."

God is fake.  Lucifur is fake.  Jesus never lived.  All organized religion does is spread lies and falsehoods, creating false hope.  Praying doesn't do shit.  If you want shit done, do it yourself (or hire someone to do it).

You are the architect of your destiny.  Every choice you have made in your entire life has lead you to this point.  I don't believe in anything anymoar.  I trust facts that can be tested and confirmed.  No faith here.  Given how my life has gone and the struggles I has faced, I am happy with where I am right meow.

Believe whatever you want.  This is a place to talk about religiosity, not proselytize to others about your imaginary magic sky friend.

Wed Sep 13 2023 01:56:05 EDT from test2

you guys have been around the sun way to many times to be still blaming god for what the devil does. carnal smarts do not equal wisdom. free will means you really must have a choice to make. the demonic is real and they's still kicking your butts. - you believing their lies. reality= you live on a demon infested rock and they have the upper hand- until - *you* make a decision.  choose wisely every day. god already made his move, he's waiting for you to make your move. till then - happy ass kicking. they don't teach you this in church, because it's a business. it's exactly why jesus hated religion and beat the cheats with whips- because the cheats liked their cheats. at least you and jesus are like minded in this respect.



 



 



[#] Sun Sep 17 2023 20:33:46 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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you guys have been around the sun way to many times to be still
blaming god for what the devil does. carnal smarts do not equal
wisdom. free will means you really must have a choice to make. the

Thank you test2 for speaking the truth.

Sometimes bad things happen to good people. God gave us free will. Sometimes your free will crashes into someone else's free will, and the results are unpleasant.

Spiritual warfare is real. Demons will absolutely kick your ass if you try to mess with them yourself. The good news is that they MUST leave when dismissed in Jesus's name.

[#] Sun Sep 17 2023 20:34:26 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Believe whatever you want.  This is a place to talk about
religiosity, not proselytize to others about your imaginary magic sky
friend.

Imaginary magic sky friend? You mean the global warming demon? Yeah, I hate him too.

[#] Mon Sep 18 2023 07:39:33 EDT from Nurb432

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lol



[#] Wed Sep 20 2023 22:52:00 EDT from zelgomer

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Since I posted it in two other rooms, I might as well post it here, too. It is a religion, after all. Systemd sucks.

[#] Thu Sep 21 2023 16:38:15 EDT from Nurb432

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I 2nd that. 

Wed Sep 20 2023 22:52:00 EDT from zelgomer
Since I posted it in two other rooms, I might as well post it here, too. It is a religion, after all. Systemd sucks.

 



[#] Mon Oct 16 2023 23:31:18 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I like systemd, but it is not my religion. I already have a religion I am quite happy with.

However it does raise an interesting question: what *do* you consider a "religion"?
You can also swap it with the word "cult" if you want to, especially the fans of a charismatic leader. It seems to have become an abused term, just like "hate" replaced "disagreement".

Phrases such as "religious fervor" and "cult-like following" were supposed to be hyperbolic. They were supposed to be tongue-in-cheek. But as with everything nowadays, hyperbole is the new norm and we're expected to have a death wish for people who even mildly disagree with us about anything.

I blame Facebook, of course.

[#] Tue Oct 17 2023 07:03:09 EDT from Nurb432

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Don't forget Twitter, and MSM... ( and the DNC )

Mon Oct 16 2023 23:31:18 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

I blame Facebook, of course.

 



[#] Wed Oct 18 2023 20:08:56 EDT from zelgomer

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However it does raise an interesting question: what *do* you consider

a "religion"?

Honest answer. I believe religion is OG politics.

[#] Wed Oct 18 2023 21:22:59 EDT from nonservator

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Broadest definition I'd accept: Whatever people define as sacred and profane.



[#] Thu Oct 19 2023 07:07:16 EDT from Nurb432

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And, cant provide evidence via scientific method. 

Wed Oct 18 2023 21:22:59 EDT from nonservator

Broadest definition I'd accept: Whatever people define as sacred and profane.



 



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