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[#] Thu Aug 19 2021 08:52:25 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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UU kind of bugs me.  They organize because they are feeling a call to worship, but most of them refuse to believe in the One who is calling them.



[#] Fri Aug 20 2021 13:04:38 EDT from LoanShark

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2021-08-11 19:53 from ParanoidDelusions
How is turning on a light switch not work but turning on a stove
switch is? 

triL or shazam can probably answer this one better, but my understanding is that both are forbidden, but there are workarounds for both, such as running the oven on 350 until sundown, or timed switches, or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KosherSwitch



and apparently it depends on which rabbi you're following.

[#] Fri Aug 20 2021 14:53:28 EDT from Nurb432

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lol

that is not even "getting around", that is just outright cheating. :) 

Fri Aug 20 2021 01:04:38 PM EDT from LoanShark
timed switches

 



[#] Fri Aug 20 2021 15:01:19 EDT from Nurb432

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All kidding aside, if one is supposed to believe in some such absolute rule set of life, handed down by their chosen deity, but then 'work around the intent' then why even bother ? Sounds like one's belief system isn't really of any relevance, and seems rather hypocritical, and just for convenience. I'm sure your chosen deity can see thru the veil, and be disappointed in you.

 

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[#] Sat Aug 21 2021 18:26:07 EDT from nonservator

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"NOOOOO! YOU CANT BASE YOUR MORALITY ON A FAIRY TALE"

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[#] Fri Sep 03 2021 17:13:59 EDT from Nurb432

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"science shows there was a flood in biblical times"  "that proves god exists since the bible said both, and there was a flood" 

Um. no. That isn't quite how it works. 

So that means if you go further back, and they documented a large rock that hit the ground " zeus tossed it ", That means zeus exists?  Or "big rain today ug, sun god didnt come today and is mad at us, clouds, rain ug" "draw on wall ug"

Someone doesn't understand the process of scientific proof.. 



[#] Fri Sep 03 2021 17:21:25 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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I'm pretty much counting on God being amused by the creative ways I worked around His rules and respecting that sense of autonomy and independence and intellect in His creations. 

If not... well... that isn't going to work out so well. 

 



[#] Fri Sep 03 2021 17:35:12 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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On the other hand.... 

"The bible is all fairy tales and superstition. There weren't rains for 40 days and 40 nights that flooded the whole earth so that every mountaintop was below the water..." 

Sure - but nearly every ancient scriptural history has a great flood story of some sort - even separated societies on opposite sides of the world - so it is pretty clear that there was, at some point in our collective experience, a pretty global or significant flood disaster that left an indelible mark on the human consciousness. 

"Sure... ok... but Moses was just a mythical being, and did not spread the red sea..." 

But, we've found a location where the Red Sea is so shallow across its breadth that we've modeled that high winds could actually PART the sea - and we've found the remains of a lot of chariots and iron age weapons on the shores in that area - which seems to match the story of...

"Ok... but David and Goliath?" 

"We found a cup, an oversized cup, from the right era, imprinted as was the custom, with the name Goliath." 

"Well, Jesus certainly didn't walk on water..." 

All of THAT boolsheet tends to lead me to the idea that in our distant past there were very ignorant, very primitive men on and about the Earth, and very advanced, very sophisticated men on the Earth - and the latter type could perform "miracles" like talking out of bushes from remote locations and walking around a cities walls a few times then blowing some "horns" and the walls collapsed, and probably curing someone of multiple-personality disorder. Probably ascending to the heavens on pillars of flame and looking down on the round of the Earth from the heavens, as well. 

It seems that science is just as much likely to assume the antecedent and work with circular logic as the religious - to much the same net effect. 

The Aztecs thought their Gods had returned because their spiritual traditions said white men with white facial hair would arrive on vessels - and then the Spaniards showed up... 

It wasn't the first time that people of that region had interacted with a technologically superior culture that had white skin and facial hair. But it sounds like the PREVIOUS guys with white hair and skin were even more advanced than the second group that arrived. 

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Fri Sep 03 2021 17:13:59 EDT from Nurb432

"science shows there was a flood in biblical times"  "that proves god exists since the bible said both, and there was a flood" 

Um. no. That isn't quite how it works. 

So that means if you go further back, and they documented a large rock that hit the ground " zeus tossed it ", That means zeus exists?  Or "big rain today ug, sun god didnt come today and is mad at us, clouds, rain ug" "draw on wall ug"

Someone doesn't understand the process of scientific proof.. 



 



[#] Fri Sep 03 2021 17:52:58 EDT from Nurb432

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It might have been from their view of the world.  

Fri Sep 03 2021 05:35:12 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions

On the other hand.... 

"The bible is all fairy tales and superstition. There weren't rains for 40 days and 40 nights that flooded the whole earth so that every mountaintop was below the water..." 




[#] Fri Sep 03 2021 20:06:58 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Stephen King isn't good for a lot... but in one of his books he has a character describe, "People always say, everything was 40 days and 40 nights in the bible. That is how you can tell it is all myth... but what they're missing is, 40 days and 40 nights isn't supposed to be taken literally, it means, "a helluva long time." You go out into the desert for "40 days and 40 nights," and you come back with a vision." 

 

It is one of his more actually awake observations.  

Fri Sep 03 2021 17:52:58 EDT from Nurb432

It might have been from their view of the world.  

Fri Sep 03 2021 05:35:12 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions

On the other hand.... 

"The bible is all fairy tales and superstition. There weren't rains for 40 days and 40 nights that flooded the whole earth so that every mountaintop was below the water..." 




 



[#] Sat Sep 18 2021 15:11:07 EDT from Nurb432

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Grrr. So the 'witness kids' are out and about bugging people today. They dont feel they need to follow the local ordinances.  Only reason i dont call the cops on them, have them fined and kicked out of the neighborhood, is i dont want to bother the police over it. 

But it pisses me off greatly. Follow the law, read the signs. Freaking entitled scumbags. Should punch them in the face for trespassing.



[#] Sun Sep 19 2021 09:48:07 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Of which bent? Heavenly Father or Personal Lord and Savior & Good News... or the Earth is Going to End? 

 

Sat Sep 18 2021 15:11:07 EDT from Nurb432

Grrr. So the 'witness kids' are out and about bugging people today. They dont feel they need to follow the local ordinances.  Only reason i dont call the cops on them, have them fined and kicked out of the neighborhood, is i dont want to bother the police over it. 

But it pisses me off greatly. Follow the law, read the signs. Freaking entitled scumbags. Should punch them in the face for trespassing.



 



[#] Sun Sep 19 2021 10:03:13 EDT from Nurb432

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Supposedly they were mormons i guess instead of witnesses.  We have both down here, they are all the same to me. Wackjobs that use kids to do their dirty work.  I was complaining/warning in our local FB group here ( its useful for stuff like that ) and someone said witnesses were told not go out due to covid but mormons do, and my description was more like them.

Either way, they were knowingly breaking the law and being rude by not following my sign. 



[#] Mon Sep 20 2021 01:00:25 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Mormons do missionaries. Christians and JWs witness. I'm not sure I've ever had a 7th day adventist show up at my door. Mormons come in pairs on bikes. JWs generally come in 4s, and often it is two men and two women, and at least one of them is black. 

The JWs are the worst. I've answered the door wearing a Venom shirt and told them I couldn't talk right now, we were in the middle of black mass - and they asked when a good time to come back would be and gave me a copy of their magazine, anyhow. 

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Sun Sep 19 2021 10:03:13 EDT from Nurb432

Supposedly they were mormons i guess instead of witnesses.  We have both down here, they are all the same to me. Wackjobs that use kids to do their dirty work.  I was complaining/warning in our local FB group here ( its useful for stuff like that ) and someone said witnesses were told not go out due to covid but mormons do, and my description was more like them.

Either way, they were knowingly breaking the law and being rude by not following my sign. 



 



[#] Mon Sep 20 2021 06:47:23 EDT from Nurb432

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Unsure the group, but a friend of mine let them in her house once. Led them to the dining room, which she had made up as a sacrificial altar, complete with fake baby in the middle.  They never returned. Even avoided walking in front of her house.

I dont care who they are or what they believe, they all need to follow the law and read the signs.  And stay the hell off my property.



[#] Mon Sep 20 2021 08:31:16 EDT from nonservator

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Next time they show up, I'll be honest and tell them Vatican II was a mistake.



[#] Mon Sep 20 2021 09:08:05 EDT from Nurb432

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I'm thinking of wearing my FSM T-shirt and a AR-15 pistol around my shoulder, and putting loud porn on the tv in the background. ( if i had a pistol that is, you know, the boating accident )

This is a stand your ground state.



[#] Mon Sep 20 2021 12:20:15 EDT from nonservator

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Just like I used to assume all theists were crazy fundies, I now assume all atheists are le modern enlightened perfectly rational types who I would rather be vivisected than spend one minute hearing them speak at me.



[#] Mon Sep 20 2021 13:11:20 EDT from Nurb432

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Now, while i disagree with their conclusion about life and the universe and everything, i dont think all believers are nutjobs.

BUT the ones that come to my house to try to convert me, yes, those are.



[#] Mon Sep 20 2021 13:13:44 EDT from Nurb432

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And must be the season or something, just got a handwritten letter from some person one town over ( that i dont know, assuming they just read the stuff at the city to see who lives where. its public record ), 'come to jesus' or some such nonsense.  I didnt read it.  At least hes not going door to door like the kids were, and did take the time to write the letter. ill give him that much credit.. as i put the letter in the trash can.



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