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[#] Wed Nov 01 2023 16:57:17 UTC from Nurb432

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"breaking news .. Money found fulling to Biden from sources in..  bla bla bla. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"

So over the pointless clown show.  Where is my bread?



[#] Wed Nov 01 2023 16:59:17 UTC from Nurb432

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funneling.  grrr typo check.  

Either way, same sentiment.  So bored with it all. nothing ever happens. Tired of the political show. We are all about to die, and the waste time/money on stuff they have no intent on following thru with, and really never did.  

 

Only consolation is when it all collapses, they go with it.



[#] Wed Nov 01 2023 17:48:48 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Western whites are an abnormality. If you read Chinesse comics about

zombie apocalypses, you will see Chinesse characters helping Chinesse

people first, other Asians next, and then the rest. Western whites are

the weirdos using funds to help poor foreigners or immigrants before
they help Western whites who live in poverty.

It is absurd that there is only one race that is not allowed to be proud of itself, defend itself, look out for itself.

Once again, we see that political correctness is tyranny masquerading as manners. ESG/DEA/AA is an outright assault.

[#] Thu Nov 02 2023 04:36:08 UTC from test2

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something for Christians to remember. the demonic realms are geographically distributed on earth. the demonic tribes have very specific characteristics and manifest those bad characteristics into unwitting populations. there is an interplay that takes place between unwitting people and their demonic oppressors. christian "nations" marginally tend away from the oppression. racism is demonic. one group hating the other groups demons.

Wed Nov 01 2023 01:48:48 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
..

It is absurd that there is only one race that is not allowed to be proud of itself, defend itself, look out for itself.

Once again, we see that political correctness is tyranny masquerading as manners. ESG/DEA/AA is an outright assault.

 



[#] Thu Nov 02 2023 11:19:21 UTC from nonservator

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I wonder if my mom has ended her lifelong support for the ACLU now that they (reluctantly, with countless caveats and addendums) "support" Bad Orange Man.



[#] Thu Nov 02 2023 11:39:57 UTC from Nurb432

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Hmm i had not heard that.

Biden admin is so bad even they are jumping ship... wow. 



[#] Fri Nov 03 2023 20:28:57 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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something for Christians to remember. the demonic realms are
geographically distributed on earth. the demonic tribes have very
specific characteristics and manifest those bad characteristics into

Nice. Someone who understands spiritual warfare.

You're absolutely correct, of course. And it's patently clear that Western culture turning away from God is the cause, not the effect, of its decline.

[#] Fri Nov 03 2023 21:40:28 UTC from LadySerenaKitty

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I dropped the faith because:

  • so many clergy suddenly ended up being pedos in the early 2000s
  • constant denial of science/willful ignorance of science
  • gaslighting me about my own life

 

Nah, fuck that.  I ain't gonna associate with any group that fucking toxic.  Got real tired of that bullshit.



[#] Fri Nov 03 2023 22:06:56 UTC from Nurb432

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And in many cases, the chosen deity acts like a controlling abusive boyfriend "do what i say, do not question me, or you get punished"

Fri Nov 03 2023 17:40:28 EDT from LadySerenaKitty

I dropped the faith because:

  • so many clergy suddenly ended up being pedos in the early 2000s
  • constant denial of science/willful ignorance of science
  • gaslighting me about my own life

 

Nah, fuck that.  I ain't gonna associate with any group that fucking toxic.  Got real tired of that bullshit.



 



[#] Fri Nov 03 2023 23:12:37 UTC from msgrhys

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Fri Nov 03 2023 18:06:56 EDT from Nurb432

And in many cases, the chosen deity acts like a controlling abusive boyfriend "do what i say, do not question me, or you get punished"

Fri Nov 03 2023 17:40:28 EDT from LadySerenaKitty

I dropped the faith because:

  • so many clergy suddenly ended up being pedos in the early 2000s
  • constant denial of science/willful ignorance of science
  • gaslighting me about my own life

 

Nah, fuck that.  I ain't gonna associate with any group that fucking toxic.  Got real tired of that bullshit.



 



As a Christian, it depresses me that some people see it this way.



[#] Sat Nov 04 2023 05:44:46 UTC from test2

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good points all.  consider. the demonic wants you dead and with them. the demonic hate you. they have direct access to your thinking mind, they've been on the planet through thousands of people generations. they lie, abuse, steal, destroy and ultimately kill - directly or indirectly through willing, unwilling and unwitting humans.

you encounter hundreds of demons daily. your points below- all direct examples of interacting with the demonic, but expecting a different outcome- considering how they operate.  The demonic corruption of mans "plans" always leaves a bad after taste, i.e. "fuck that" im checking out. churches are corrupted businesses, you are correct recoiling away. neither of you have experienced jesus yet- but you will, and you'll know something is different. your time is coming, and you'll be looking for students like me. you'll be more aware of the war and a determined urgency will fill you.  your day is coming. it'll start with the small thing that breaks physics (miracle) that sticks in your brain nagging you to confront it. (Jules in Pulp Fiction)- cep't he was just acting! and hollywood sucks.

Fri Nov 03 2023 06:06:56 PM EDT from Nurb432

And in many cases, the chosen deity acts like a controlling abusive boyfriend "do what i say, do not question me, or you get punished"

Fri Nov 03 2023 17:40:28 EDT from LadySerenaKitty

I dropped the faith because:

  • so many clergy suddenly ended up being pedos in the early 2000s
  • constant denial of science/willful ignorance of science
  • gaslighting me about my own life

 

Nah, fuck that.  I ain't gonna associate with any group that fucking toxic.  Got real tired of that bullshit.



 



 



[#] Sat Nov 04 2023 12:18:35 UTC from Nurb432

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that is what science is about. Finding those anomalies and unexplained behaviors around us, then working to explain them, using scientific method. Not just writing them off as miracles or just shrugging our shoulders "i dunno"

Remember even something as simple as sunlight was considered a god provided item at one point in human history. The concept of a huge thermonuclear reactor in the sky never even occurred to them. So it must be magic. It took time to understand it. Everything is explainable by science, even if it has to be revised later  or takes longer than our lifetime to find it.  ( one of the beauties of real science, not pseudo science, is nothing is absolute and cant be reviewed again later as we are willing to admit we were wrong due to new evidence/knowledge ).

And while we all know where i personally stand, if someone were to use scientific method and prove an actual deity exists ( not just more advanced life that seems like one to us.. again, look at our history ), that is fine, i would not be a hypocrite and until counter investigation dis-proves, then it is what it is. But i really dont see that being possible from a practical standpoint. Cant really 'prove' faith, that is the entire point of it.

And i think we veered away of the room from religious propaganda into core region concepts.. oops. 

Sat Nov 04 2023 01:44:46 EDT from test2

 it'll start with the small thing that breaks physics (miracle) that sticks in your brain nagging you to confront it. 



[#] Sat Nov 04 2023 19:19:23 UTC from test2

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veering away is cool.  IG will forgive us.  science=knowledge.  im very good at it (physical for sure, spiritual for sure). the physical is dependent on the spiritual (not the other way round).  we're born and locked into a physical place, its understandable that paradigm rules in terms of knowledge. we grow and sense a broader "knowledge/science" then the spiritual war begins. you're in that war. we will all die in that war. its the war worth winning. ( as an aside..if you only knew what i know about solar dynamics....another topic for sure!).

Sat Nov 04 2023 08:18:35 AM EDT from Nurb432

that is what science is about. Finding those anomalies and unexplained behaviors around us, then working to explain them, using scientific method. Not just writing them off as miracles or just shrugging our shoulders "i dunno"

Remember even something as simple as sunlight was considered a god provided item at one point in human history. The concept of a huge thermonuclear reactor in the sky never even occurred to them. So it must be magic. It took time to understand it. Everything is explainable by science, even if it has to be revised later  or takes longer than our lifetime to find it.  ( one of the beauties of real science, not pseudo science, is nothing is absolute and cant be reviewed again later as we are willing to admit we were wrong due to new evidence/knowledge ).

And while we all know where i personally stand, if someone were to use scientific method and prove an actual deity exists ( not just more advanced life that seems like one to us.. again, look at our history ), that is fine, i would not be a hypocrite and until counter investigation dis-proves, then it is what it is. But i really dont see that being possible from a practical standpoint. Cant really 'prove' faith, that is the entire point of it.

And i think we veered away of the room from religious propaganda into core region concepts.. oops. 

Sat Nov 04 2023 01:44:46 EDT from test2

 it'll start with the small thing that breaks physics (miracle) that sticks in your brain nagging you to confront it. 



 



[#] Mon Nov 06 2023 18:14:13 UTC from darknetuser

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As a Christian, it depresses me that some people see it this way.



The real red flag about Christianity is that organized Christianism is not reliable as a spiritual guide of any sort.

With this I mean that you often see Christian authority figures praise certain aspects of the scriptures and then ignore others when it is advantageous for them to ignore them.

If you are Catholic, it means you trust the Roman Church to have interpretated the scriptures and documents in such a way that they have a good idea of what are the rules God wants you to follow. If you buy the rules you like but then fuck asses left and right and try to reason that it is ok then you are sort of a bad Christian.

See variants like "I can't have kids until I marry because that is not moral. By the way, I have to go and plant some false evidence to get a business advantage."

[#] Mon Nov 06 2023 18:18:10 UTC from darknetuser

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And while we all know where i personally stand, if someone were to
use scientific method and prove an actual deity exists ( not just
more advanced life that seems like one to us.. again, look at our
history ), that is fine, i would not be a hypocrite and until counter

investigation dis-proves, then it is what it is. But i really dont
see that being possible from a practical standpoint. Cant really
'prove' faith, that is the entire point of it.

This begs the question: does a sufficiently advanced being count as a deity? At which point an advanced being stops being just a being and becomes a deity?


People often forget that four centuries ago people worshipped river spirits and desert genii, often while also worshipping the Abrahamic God at the same time :p

[#] Mon Nov 06 2023 19:17:06 UTC from Nurb432

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I think it does. if they are so advanced to be able to do what the lower one's consider magic, how can you tell?

Aliens visit ... "i am god, watch me make things vanish before your eyes" and waving his hands in the air ( while assistant listening to the conversation is pushing buttons in the background to make things vanish via quantum mechanics ). "i can also make bushes catch on fire magically" ( assistant then activates IR generator and aims at the bush he just pointed at )

If we could go back in time.. the little bit of tech we have would make us look like gods to even advanced civilizations like the Mayans and Egyptians.

Mon Nov 06 2023 13:18:10 EST from darknetuser
This begs the question: does a sufficiently advanced being count as a deity? 

 



[#] Mon Nov 06 2023 19:34:30 UTC from darknetuser

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2023-11-06 14:17 from Nurb432
I think it does. if they are so advanced to be able to do what the

lower one's consider magic, how can you tell?

I was rather thinking that we are functional deities to our pets.

If your mare gets her horse entangled in a bush, you cut her free, and then produce an apple from your pocket, you are a miracle worker!

Same if you show up and share a pink rubber bone with your puppy. As fas as she is concerned, you are the ultimate, original source of pink rubber bones.

[#] Tue Nov 07 2023 23:19:12 UTC from Nurb432

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So FCC is looking to take over the internet ( at least in the US ).  While it talks of financial controls in the article, ( much like they did with Bell... ) i'm sure its got content controls too.  

Does not sound promising:

"For the first time ever, those rules would give the federal government a roving mandate to micromanage nearly every aspect of how the Internet functions—from how [internet service providers] allocate capital and where they build, to the services that consumers can purchase; from the profits that ISPs can realize and how they market and advertise services, to the discounts and promotions that consumers can receive. Talk about central planning," Carr warned.

If passed, the FCC would be empowered, for the first time, to regulate every ISP's service termination terms, use of customer credit, account history, credit checks, and account termination, among many other items."

 

Excerpted,  https://gazette.com/news/wex/fcc-commissioner-calls-biden-equity-plan-for-internet-control-sweeping-unprecedented-and-unlawful/article_08a28456-a131-538b-bca3-b6fc1f83733f.html



[#] Tue Nov 07 2023 23:21:26 UTC from Nurb432

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And for inside pets, they think you control the weather too.

"dude, its wet out here, why? make it stop"

Mon Nov 06 2023 14:34:30 EST from darknetuser
Same if you show up and share a pink rubber bone with your puppy. As fas as she is concerned, you are the ultimate, original source of pink rubber bones.

 



[#] Wed Nov 08 2023 17:09:36 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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good points all.  consider. the demonic wants you dead and with
them. the demonic hate you. they have direct access to your thinking
mind, they've been on the planet through thousands of people
generations. they lie, abuse, steal, destroy and ultimately kill -
directly or indirectly through willing, unwilling and unwitting
humans.

Fact check: mostly true :)

These same demonic entities have been around throughout humam civilization.
Many of them were, and are, worshipped as gods. They are directly involved with the fall and decadence of western culture, and even the great apostasy in parts of the Church as God is further removed from our culture and the demons rush in to take God's place. They "possess" society at large.

Think about it -- the secularization of schools, the demonic agenda being forced on our children and the objectification, minimization, and sexualization of our culture. Jonathan Cahn did an excellent talk [ https://cornerstonechapel.net/teaching/20231004/ ] revealing how the three big ones used to manifest in pagan society and how they are appearing today.

I'm going to disagree with you about one point. Demons can NOT read your thoughts. Not the lesser demons, and not even Obama's boss Satan himself.
Only God can do that. They can observe what you're doing, saying, etc. and some of them can be damn clever in what they put in your path, but they do not know what you're thinking.

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