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[#] Wed May 05 2021 20:21:08 UTC from Nurb432

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Yes i also thought #1 was good. It was interesting, entertaining and had some new effects.  Nothing ground breaking in concept, but it was neat and watchable. Then they ruined it.

 

#4 is still in the works i guess.



[#] Wed May 05 2021 20:44:58 UTC from zooer

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Wed May 05 2021 10:58:35 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
Think that's impossible? Go look up a product called Impossible. :)

Are you talking about Impossible Burgers?  I have had Beyond Meat burger style meat substitute. I think I tried their sausage as well.  If you put enough onions, peppers, mushrooms on it, added a few slices of cheese and put enough ketchup on it, the condiments will cover up the not quite right taste.  I didn't think it was bad, but it wasn't beef... and I am liking beef less.  It was very greasy because it has a shitload of coconut oil in it.  I had two burgers, by the third one my body said, "no more." and it made me sick.

I don't mind vegetarian and vegan foods, I enjoy many of them.  What I dislike is some grass eater telling me that ground up grass trimmings and twigs taste JUST LIKE chicken.  I would rather hear, "Try this vegan meal" than "If I didn't tell you this was tofu and gravel you would never have known."

In the movie Soylent Green, Soylent Green was PEEEEPOLE!

There is a 1991 French film called Delicatessen.
In a dilapidated apartment building in post-apocalyptic France, food is in short supply and grain is used as currency. On the ground floor is a butcher's shop, run by the landlord, Clapet, who posts job opportunities in the Hard Times paper to lure victims to the building, whom he murders and butchers as a cheap source of meat to sell to his tenants.

Yes, he sold human meat to people.  Soybeans were a currency and the only food for the vegetarians that lived underground.



[#] Wed May 05 2021 20:48:24 UTC from zooer

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Back on topic.

Chauvin’s Attorney Files Motion For New Trial
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/05/05/derek-chauvins-attorney-files-motion-for-new-trial/

I had read that one of the people on the jury was photographed wearing a shirt that says "knees off our necks" which could help in a retrial.

But I doubt this case will go to a retrial.

 



[#] Wed May 05 2021 21:34:20 UTC from Nurb432

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Regardless of the outcome, it needs to be done over as what happened was a farce. 

Wed May 05 2021 04:48:24 PM EDT from zooer

Back on topic.

Chauvin’s Attorney Files Motion For New Trial
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/05/05/derek-chauvins-attorney-files-motion-for-new-trial/

I had read that one of the people on the jury was photographed wearing a shirt that says "knees off our necks" which could help in a retrial.

But I doubt this case will go to a retrial.

 



 



[#] Thu May 06 2021 15:16:49 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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Hopefully it remains "in the works". 

They're *worse* than M Knight Shalaman about coming out of the gate strong and then everything else after looks like a Freshman effort. 

 

Wed May 05 2021 16:21:08 EDT from Nurb432

Yes i also thought #1 was good. It was interesting, entertaining and had some new effects.  Nothing ground breaking in concept, but it was neat and watchable. Then they ruined it.

 

#4 is still in the works i guess.



 



[#] Thu May 06 2021 18:26:32 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Are you talking about Impossible Burgers?  I have had Beyond Meat
burger style meat substitute. I think I tried their sausage as

I asked a (non militant) vegetarian if he had tried Impossible Burger. He said that if he wanted something that tasted like meat he would just eat meat.

That made sense to me. I'll have a veggie burger once in a while, but I don't consider it to be beef any more than I'd consider a chicken patty to be beef. It's something else. It might even work in some of the same dishes.
But it's not the same thing.

Lots of people who go vegetarian end up going back. It's kind of like being a lesbian in college -- it's trendy, it's different, but eventually you realize that you just love beef too much. :)

[#] Thu May 06 2021 21:11:31 UTC from zooer

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My taste for animal based produces has lessened over the years.  I haven't stopped eating them, I enjoy planet based more.

That being said, years ago I tried some veggie burger and it was so bad it turned me off from all veggie burgers for about 20 years.  The Beyond Meat burgers would probably make me throw up as soon as I ate them.

I do like a lot of Morning Star products.



[#] Thu May 06 2021 21:47:43 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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Beyond Meat and Impossible Burger are decent. 

But, they've got a lot of the same health concerns as meat - they're not diet food. In fact, they can be more calorie heavy and fatty than actual meat. 

Boca burgers always kind of triggered a gag reflex for me. Blimpie's makes a good veggie patty. 


I don't really care what the food is - any food can be good prepared well, and any food can be shit prepared poorly. 

But... if you're living your lifestyle around your food choices - you're not living your life, life is living you. 






[#] Fri May 07 2021 16:22:19 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Fake meat does not contain the iron, vitamins, and protein that Real Meat does. The push to eliminate beef has nothing to do with climate change (obviously, since "climate change" is a weasel word for "communism"). They want to eliminate the Strong Americans whose diet is rich in iron and protein, and replace us with easily subjugated soy boys.

If I want a veggie burger, the Morningstar Farms "Garden Veggie Patties" are quite nice. I like them. But if I want an actual hamburger, it had damn well better be made from a dead cow.

[#] Fri May 07 2021 16:36:34 UTC from Nurb432

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I agree.  I have some vegan friends, they are borderline sickly. 

I have one that takes a bunch of supplements to make up the difference so she wont die.  "um, isn't that a sign that we evolved to eat meat, and still need to since plants are not giving you what you need?"  "but its morally wrong to eat meat"



[#] Sun May 09 2021 21:02:06 UTC from darknetuser

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2021-05-07 12:36 from Nurb432
I agree.  I have some vegan friends, they are borderline sickly. 


I have one that takes a bunch of supplements to make up the
difference so she wont die.  "um, isn't that a sign that we evolved

to eat meat, and still need to since plants are not giving you what
you need?"  "but its morally wrong to eat meat"


If he is arguing that it is morally wrong to eat meat, he is way better than those who argue a pure vegan diet is more healthy for you.

I can simpathise with people who does not want to eat cute lambs or calfs and will put the work required to avoid doing that. What I don't get is people following such ways telling everybody that their diet is superior in practical terms.

[#] Sun May 09 2021 21:18:10 UTC from Nurb432

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Ya, they are intelligent enough to know its not really for health reasons ( tho do feel that fat in meat isn't good for you... ) and its mostly not wanting to eat cuddly animals.

Im not fond of that part myself to be honest, but its how we evolved, so its a necessary evil.  



[#] Mon May 10 2021 19:13:11 UTC from Nurb432

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Well. That was anti-climactic.  I really hope this is just a start, as if not, its pretty lame. "yet another blog".

 

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/desk

 

 



[#] Mon May 10 2021 20:54:58 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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I can simpathise with people who does not want to eat cute lambs or
calfs and will put the work required to avoid doing that. What I don't

get is people following such ways telling everybody that their diet is

superior in practical terms.

Right, something like that.

Also there's a lot of propaganda involved. I had a friend go veg about 30 years ago after he saw a propaganda film about factory farming. He was pretty easily manipulated. After watching the film he was utterly convinced that *all* meat is produced with *extreme* cruelty to animals.

They conveniently left out the truth that animals who perish under high stress produce substantially lower quality meat. This can even be taken to an extreme if you buy kosher meat, which requires even higher standards of how the animals are treated.

Why be cruel to animals when you can be cruel to animal rights activists?

[#] Mon May 10 2021 20:56:17 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Well. That was anti-climactic.  I really hope this is just a start,
as if not, its pretty lame. "yet another blog".

Seems like it. But at least he's got at least one place to get a message out.

I'm disappointed that there is no RSS feed. The obvious win would be to make the site feed readable so everyone can syndicate and amplify its contents.

[#] Mon May 10 2021 21:12:23 UTC from Nurb432

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Agreed, he needed a place to vent/talk to his supporters.

But, they presented this as to be the end all to be all social media for freedom.  Its nothing of the sort. 



[#] Mon May 10 2021 21:15:16 UTC from Nurb432

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Right, its easier just to scream and yell and scare people.

Most farmers i know dont want to be cruel either really. Its just something that needs to be done, and they do care about their animals. Perhaps the 'commercial farms' less so, but at least they want to maximize profits, and being cruel does not do that.

Mon May 10 2021 04:54:58 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
They conveniently left out the truth that animals who perish under high stress produce substantially lower quality meat. 

 



[#] Tue May 11 2021 13:01:05 UTC from darknetuser

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2021-05-10 17:15 from Nurb432
Right, its easier just to scream and yell and scare people.

Most farmers i know dont want to be cruel either really. Its just

something that needs to be done, and they do care about their
animals. Perhaps the 'commercial farms' less so, but at least they

want to maximize profits, and being cruel does not do that.

There is a bit of everything.

One of my current "big" pets I bought from a farmer that was about to sell her for burgerware. To put it mildly, she didn't have the best life over that farm. She came with a bunch of scars and was always left out on the field during harsh weather because the farmer could not care enough to bring the herd into the barn. To this day I still have people stop by my darling, look at her scars, and ask me why in the hell I am beating her like that.

A lot of shepherds don't seem to care much for the lambs either. If you tell them you have seen one of their sheep wandering elsewhere, lost, you can bet they are not going to try and grab her.

On the other hand, I know a bunch of cowboys who treat their cows as if they were their big Teddy Bears.

[#] Tue May 11 2021 13:59:21 UTC from Nurb432

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People like that, should be treated the same. Then turned into feed for the animal they abused.  Be it a 'feed-stock' or 'pet' ( traditional or otherwise ). No excuse to be mean to an animal as far as i'm concerned. 

Do you have to treat it like your spouse? No, of course not, but cruelty is unacceptable.

Tue May 11 2021 09:01:05 AM EDT from darknetuser
One of my current "big" pets I bought from a farmer that was about to sell her for burgerware. To put it mildly, she didn't have the best life over that farm. She came with a bunch of scars and was always left out on the field during harsh weather because the farmer could not care enough to bring the herd into the barn. To this day I still have people stop by my darling, look at her scars, and ask me why in the hell I am beating her like that.

 



[#] Tue May 11 2021 14:43:45 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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A post from wallofhate that I thought I'd share here: 

So, as we've seen with Stephen Colbert, it is easy for the Left to satirize the political Right and that the Right is often gullible enough to fall for it. 

On Uncensored.citadel.org, we recently had a conversation about Ricky Gervais roasting the Golden Globes. Someone suggested that openly admitting it without repercussion is part of how they normalize it and make it accepted. 

I recently got the e-mail below from David Horowitz. In it, he admits he was a radical Leftist who put into practice exactly the kind of roadmap that people on the Right get accused of being "conspiracy theorists" for trying to expose. He claims that the Left doesn't care how much they have to lie, steal and cheat to achieve their goal. 

This creates an interesting paradox. It is the paradox of someone who is a member of a certain group claiming, "all members of this group are liars." 

It is the paradox that is the Right's Achilles heel.  

We know that all radical Leftists want to destroy America. We also know that some on the Right are actually radical Leftists who want to destroy America. 

It isn't a far stretch of the imagination to contemplate David Horowitz and his radical Left revolutionaries concocting a scheme to infiltrate the Right, to go "deep cover" and convince the Right that he had switched sides, and to OPENLY admit the roadmap, claim to be speaking out against it, and start raising funds that go right back into SUPPORTING it. 

And the Right would likely be gullible enough to fall for this - based on how quickly a Comedy Central hack comedian duped a large portion of the political Right by pretending to be a Right Leaning pundit. 

If so, Horowitz would be openly admitting, "we'll go to any lengths to lie, cheat and steal to win this ideological war - including faking that we're on your side to raise YOUR money to use against you." 

The only way to win against an enemy like this is to use the same tactics against them that they use against us. I'm not saying that Horowitz *is* doing this - mind you. I'm saying he COULD be doing this, and we would be hard pressed to ever know. 

Andy Grove once said that he was against outsourcing and off-shoring. Intel quickly adjusted Andy's public policy on that issue to be in line with their corporate position - but what Andy said at the time came down to, "I'm against it, but Intel *has* to do this, because our competitors will do it, because there is nothing *preventing* them from doing it. As long as it is *legal*, even if we are morally opposed to it, we must leverage it our our competitors will take the strategic and economic advantage it gives them and use it against us." 

The Right fails to contemplate how it has been infiltrated and compromised - but worse, it fails to acknowledge and realize that the only way it can effectively combat this is to do the same in reverse. 

The Left grabbed Academia and Media and other institutions of society by putting key players, acting as moderates and conservatives, into positions over decades where they grew to uncontested authority - and then those people replaced themselves with appointees and candidates who were progressively more Left - moving the goalposts on what the Right, middle and Left were over a process of 40 years or more. If anyone saw it happening, they called that person an alarmist, a conspiracy theorist, and publicly ridiculed and shamed them into silence by destroying their credibility. 

There is nothing preventing us from using the same tactics to reverse the damage they've done. As an ideology, the Right has been distracted into a head on fight with a distraction while the real enemy sneaks around and stabs us in the back. 

The Right needs to fake that we're still having the head-on battle, while ourselves sending the real assassin behind enemy lines to damage our opposition from within, to remove them from control of the things they use to shape public opinion and manipulate society. Unfortunately, we can't trust David Horowitz - but we need someone on the political Left that is the Right's version of David Horowitz. The political Right needs to start fighting fire with fire, so that they are just as uncertain of who they can trust as they've made us. 


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