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[#] Tue Dec 14 2021 16:43:17 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Well this is interesting.

Researchers are observing what appears to be microbes that are capable of digesting plastic.

[ https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/mBio.02155-21 ]

A study published in the Journal of Microbial Energy by researchers in Sweden found 30,000 different enzymes capable of degrading 10 types of plastic. Roughly 12,000 of the new enzymes were found in ocean samples, gathered from 67 locations at three different depths. Concentration of enzymes matched the concentration of plastic pollution at each location.

Nearly two-thirds of the enzymes didn't even fit into any known enzyme class.

It certainly would be a big deal if we transitioned into a world where plastic is considered biodegradable.

[#] Tue Dec 14 2021 17:46:21 EST from zelgomer

Subject: Re: Microbes are evolving to digest plastic?

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It certainly would be a big deal if we transitioned into a world where

plastic is considered biodegradable.

Isn't that the Andromeda strain? Things would get real interesting real fast if we transitioned into a world where plastic was not just biodegradable, but didn't even hold up under normal use!

[#] Tue Dec 14 2021 18:06:15 EST from Nurb432

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Normal use = better hurry up!



[#] Tue Dec 21 2021 00:35:02 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Ironically, that would make plastic straws as useless as the paper ones.

[#] Thu Dec 23 2021 15:52:18 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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The EPA announced this past Monday a new mandate requiring passenger vehicles to average 55 MPG by 2026.

Is this the end of gasoline-powered cars? It feels like an attempt to kill them the same way they killed incandescent light bulbs, not by outlawing them outright but by setting impossible efficiency standards.

I'm hearing some people say things like "that number is the fleet average" but I can't find any reference to it.

*sigh* I would like to own an electric someday but I don't think we're ready for it to be ready yet. The grid isn't ready for everyone to have a charger and most of the electricity is still generated by hydrocarbon fuels anyway.

(That may be the *ONE* thing that Bill Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Gates is right about -- he agrees we need more nuclear power. A lot more.)

[#] Thu Dec 23 2021 16:03:25 EST from Nurb432

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End goal is to end passenger cars, period. They dont want you to own the ability to move about freely. Trap everyone into urban centers + public transit.  I used to think insurance companies would be on the plan, price driving out of the reach of most people, but that is too much $ to lose.

And i agree. Might as well make it 1000 mpg. its unachievable anyway. From a practical standpoint, the only way it could ever work is with mostly hybrids.

If they refuse to grandfather, i guess i just re-plate my jeep as a truck.  :)    If they dont, expect prices of used cars to rise.

Thu Dec 23 2021 03:52:18 PM EST from IGnatius T Foobar

The EPA announced this past Monday a new mandate requiring passenger vehicles to average 55 MPG by 2026.

Is this the end of gasoline-powered cars? It feels like an attempt to kill them the same way they killed incandescent light bulbs, not by outlawing them outright but by setting impossible efficiency standards.

I'm hearing some people say things like "that number is the fleet average" but I can't find any reference to it.

*sigh* I would like to own an electric someday but I don't think we're ready for it to be ready yet. The grid isn't ready for everyone to have a charger and most of the electricity is still generated by hydrocarbon fuels anyway.

(That may be the *ONE* thing that Bill Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Hitler Gates is right about -- he agrees we need more nuclear power. A lot more.)

 



[#] Thu Dec 23 2021 16:16:52 EST from LoanShark

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2021-12-23 15:52 from IGnatius T Foobar

The EPA announced this past Monday a new mandate requiring passenger

vehicles to average 55 MPG by 2026.

This is an easy standard to meet for a plug-in hybrid, for example a 330e gets 75 MPGe.

[#] Thu Dec 23 2021 16:19:43 EST from Nurb432

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No thanks i dont want a goldfield golf cart.

Great that they are options, but i dont want one and i dont want to be forced into one.  Its pissing me off, greatly.      We are heading for a "real bad thing" (TM) when people finally get to the breaking point, of all that this freaking liberalism is doing to us. Not that i look forward to it, but its coming. 

Thu Dec 23 2021 04:16:52 PM EST from LoanShark

This is an easy standard to meet for a plug-in hybrid, for example a 330e gets 75 MPGe.

 



[#] Thu Dec 23 2021 16:53:45 EST from Nurb432

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goldfield? arrgh. i gotta start proof reading spellcheck

 

"glorified" 



[#] Thu Dec 23 2021 19:24:49 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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This is an easy standard to meet for a plug-in hybrid, for example a

330e gets 75 MPGe.

Right, we're getting there, but the mandate is premature. Everyone likes saving money on fuel, and the advances in electric propulsion are really great.
I just don't want to see everything forced into being electric before energy storage has really caught up.

I was planning to keep my truck until 2029 but perhaps I'll have to keep it around for useful work if regulations kill useful vehicles. And as O
ve saod before, why aren't there solar panels on the roofs of these cars?
I only drive two or three times a week, so most of the time I could let an electric car sit around refueling itself.

[#] Thu Dec 23 2021 20:16:50 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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THIS. Totally this. I've been saying this for a while. The tiny-living movement is related. They want to warehouse the population and contain them. Fields of workers, like factory cities in China... globally. 


Thu Dec 23 2021 16:03:25 EST from Nurb432

End goal is to end passenger cars, period. They dont want you to own the ability to move about freely. Trap everyone into urban centers + public transit.  I used to think insurance companies would be on the plan, price driving out of the reach of most people, but that is too much $ to lose.

And i agree. Might as well make it 1000 mpg. its unachievable anyway. From a practical standpoint, the only way it could ever work is with mostly hybrids.

If they refuse to grandfather, i guess i just re-plate my jeep as a truck.  :)    If they dont, expect prices of used cars to rise.

Thu Dec 23 2021 03:52:18 PM EST from IGnatius T Foobar

The EPA announced this past Monday a new mandate requiring passenger vehicles to average 55 MPG by 2026.



[#] Fri Dec 24 2021 06:57:07 EST from Nurb432

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True i had not thought about the tiny house push.   Tho they are fully against the 'van life' movement.



[#] Sun Dec 26 2021 09:14:22 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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People who build tiny-houses tend to site them in the middle of nowhere. Place them in any reasonable density and guess what you have? A trailer park.

[#] Sun Dec 26 2021 09:24:04 EST from Nurb432

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A nice double wide is larger and 'better' than many of those shoebox houses. Sure, if some one wants to live in one, more power to them. "freedom" But, its not for me unless it has wheels, and i was traveling the country in it.   ( that actually was my plan after high school, convert a van into a camper. Toss my cat in the back and head out.  Didn't work out that way, but that was the plan )



[#] Mon Jul 25 2022 14:31:09 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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In case anyone wasn't aware, Al Gore is still around:

"You know, the climate deniers are really in some ways similar to all of those almost 400 law enforcement officers in Uvalde, Texas, who were waiting outside an unlocked door while the children were being massacred. They heard the screams, they heard the gunshots, and nobody stepped forward ... confronted with this global emergency, what webre doing with our inaction and failing to walk through the door and stop the killing is not typical of what we are capable of as human beings. We do have the solutions."

You heard that right, folks ... not giving the government and billionaires like Al Gore control of the energy sector is exactly the same thing as murdering 21 school children.

You'd think the dude who invented the Internet wouldn't be this dumb.

[#] Mon Jul 25 2022 14:39:22 EDT from Nurb432

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So he blamed the officers? ( which is true. they dropped the ball, but i didnt think they were supposed to admit that )

 

But ya, he is a moron.  But then again, who is raking in millions from suckers and tax payers, and flying around the plant on our dime? Not us.

Mon Jul 25 2022 02:31:09 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

In case anyone wasn't aware, Al Gore is still around:

"You know, the climate deniers are really in some ways similar to all of those almost 400 law enforcement officers in Uvalde, Texas, who were waiting outside an unlocked door while the children were being massacred. They heard the screams, they heard the gunshots, and nobody stepped forward ... confronted with this global emergency, what webre doing with our inaction and failing to walk through the door and stop the killing is not typical of what we are capable of as human beings. We do have the solutions."

You heard that right, folks ... not giving the government and billionaires like Al Gore control of the energy sector is exactly the same thing as murdering 21 school children.

You'd think the dude who invented the Internet wouldn't be this dumb.

 



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