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[#] Mon May 23 2016 14:11:46 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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2016-05-23 13:41 from IGnatius T Foobar @uncnsrd
If your mobile developers are still having Android fragmentation
problems in 2016 they're doing something very wrong. Google Play
Services API gets updated on every device, including OEM builds. They

built those API's specifically to get around OEM's who are slow to (or

stop) updating their phone OS builds.

Theoretically, sure.

[#] Tue May 24 2016 09:50:52 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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But back to Microsoft - they still haven't figured out that Windows
doesn't need to be EVERYWHERE. Come out with a phone OS that isn't
Windows. It's okay - people know how to switch between devices.

It can be Windows internally, it just shouldn't *look* like Windows.

You'd think they'd understand that, after the non-Windows-looking XBox was well accepted in the gaming market. (Yes I know, they want the XBox to be yet another delivery vehicle for their "universal apps" now too, and that's also a bad idea.)

[#] Tue May 24 2016 16:37:44 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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Fuck Powershell. That is all.

[#] Wed May 25 2016 13:10:20 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I'd say "at least it's better than cmd.exe" if it didn't take a year and a half to start up.

[#] Wed May 25 2016 19:03:25 EDT from LoanShark

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2016-05-24 16:37 from Ragnar Danneskjold @uncnsrd
Fuck Powershell. That is all.

Needed to be said again. Does anybody even pay attention to that thing? ;-)

[#] Thu May 26 2016 07:57:20 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Exchange admins do, because there's a bunch of stuff that you can now only do in PowerShell. So they have to either learn (or write down) a bunch of weird incantations to manage the system. Microsoft is trying to get the world to stop using on-premise Exchange and switch to Office 365, so they're gradually retiring all of the GUI tools.

[#] Mon May 30 2016 21:00:11 EDT from dothebart

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Wed May 25 2016 19:03:25 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored
2016-05-24 16:37 from Ragnar Danneskjold @uncnsrd
Fuck Powershell. That is all.

Needed to be said again. Does anybody even pay attention to that thing? ;-) is written in p00pshell. Its sort of usefull, you can even use it via ansible nowadays to provision a wintendo in the cloud.

[#] Tue Jun 28 2016 09:16:26 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Heh.  That sounds an awful lot like the "windows refund" bit ... hard to do, but possible if you really want to go through the effort.  Although it sounds like the standard payout would be $150, not $10,000.

Windows 10 will be "the last version of Windows" according to Microsoft; they are going to push everything out as "updates" from now on.  This could mean a number of different things.  Ideally it means Windows will now follow a rolling release model, with all new features and subsystems truly being introduced seamlessly in system updates.  But since this is Microsoft, and all they really know how to do is copy Apple and Google (in this case Apple), they'll probably just hold the version number at 10 and roll out point releases forever, like Apple does.

(Although, Apple's decision in 2013 to stop charging $$$ for OS upgrades might influence MS here as well.)

In 2025, will we be able to install Windows 10 from a DVD distributed in 2015, and seamlessly patch it to the current version using Windows Update?  That's hard to do on any operating system.  Debian (and its bastard stepchild Ubuntu) makes you step through all of the intermediate major versions.  Not sure about Mac.  From a developer's point of view it eventually comes down to, how far back do we want to code for (and test) in our upgrade routines.

What's pretty clear is that none of the major vendors really want to deal with the idea of a packaged operating system anymore, especially one that is an upgrade.  You take the OS that came with the device, and you live with it for the lifetime of the hardware; if you're lucky then maybe you get updates during that time.

[#] Tue Jun 28 2016 11:03:30 EDT from LoanShark

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Windows 10 will be "the last version of Windows" according to
Microsoft; they are going to push everything out as "updates" from
now on.  This could mean a number of different things.  Ideally it

"Updates" belongs in quotes, yes. The major updates that they release every 3-12 months, akin to what used to be called service packs or updated release images, are installing by a process that looks a lot like a full upgrade install.

[#] Tue Jun 28 2016 11:05:39 EDT from LoanShark

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Also take a look at the support lifetime schedule. It hasn't really changed. Windows 10 "released in 2015" will be supported for the usual length of time. Then presumably you have to upgrade to windows 10 "Released in 2020"

"Last version of windows" is really playing semantics.

[#] Thu Jun 30 2016 18:18:18 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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changed. Windows 10 "released in 2015" will be supported for the usual

length of time. Then presumably you have to upgrade to windows 10

Naturally. The question I have in mind is, will you be able to install Windows 10-2015 on a new computer and upgrade it to Windows 10-2020 simply by running updates and taking lots of reboots ... or will that only take you as far as, for example, Windows 10-2018 before it insists that you "obtain an upgrade"

[#] Fri Jul 08 2016 11:58:07 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Yowza. Microsoft is a stodgy old company trying to be hip with the youngsters.
This is an ACTUAL CORPORATE MESSAGE that was sent out by a Microsoft recruiter.
They have acknowledged that the message is authentic (but are already trying to walk-it-back after the entire Internet laughed at them).



Hi! I am Kim, a Microsoft University Recruiter. My crew is coming down from our HQ in Seattle to hang with you and the crowd of bay area interns at Internapalooza on 7/11.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, we're throwing an exclusive after party the night of the event at our San Francisco office and you're invited! There will be hella noms, lots of dranks, the best beats and just like last year, we're breaking out the Yammer beer pong tables!



Yes that's right, youngsters: Microsoft is hip and cool. Cool like IBM when they did the commercial with a pair of nuns talking about OS/2 in Latin. Bill Gates must be rolling over in his grave (ok, Gates is not dead, but I wish he was). If there was ever any doubt that Microsoft's best days are behind it, this should clear that up.

[#] Fri Jul 08 2016 17:40:59 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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[#] Thu Jul 14 2016 12:28:01 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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More and more Exchange customers are switching from on-premise Exchange to Office 365.

Imagine ... they built a product so unreliable, so obtuse, so high-maintenance and expensive to run, that people are willing to pay them to run it for them.

Talk about Stockholm Syndrome!

[#] Fri Jul 29 2016 16:44:17 EDT from the_mgt

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I have one client that uses on-premise Exchange, the SBS 2011 variety. Which I installed in late 2013, because their previous SBS ate itself when C: ran full, because nobody had turned on backups and the logs ate all the space. It never recovered from a 30 gig log file.

The new Exchange had a seizure last year in August (precisely on my second day of summer vacation...). It never fully recovered and now needs attention like Kim Kardashian. I might be installing it again soon. Comparing the price for the SBS itself and my maintenance fees makes renting it in the cloud look really cheap. And I get to yell at a technician instead of being on the receiving end. Or spending two nights in a row at the office, trying to fix it.

(The second night became really funny when I shambled back to my car, wondered why it drove so shabby, only to realize I had a complete flat front tire. Which I then replaced while it was cold and snowing at 5 am. Next stop was a gas station to inflate the changed tire and buy half a litre of fine local beer, which I drank on the way home. Fuck Microsoft!)

[#] Sun Jul 31 2016 19:18:30 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Well, that's kind of the point. You can't just pop an Exchange CD into the drive and walk away with an email system an hour later, like you could with older versions. You're basically stuck using one of two megabucks models:

1. Install domain controllers and mailbox servers and front end servers, requiring an MCSE who has paid megabucks to Microsoft to learn that you need a half dozen servers to run even the most simple of Exchange environments.
By the time it's built and tuned and working properly, it's time to upgrade.
Pay through the nose forever.

2. Subscribe to O365, charges for every user, every mailbox, every month.
Pay through the nose forever.

[#] Tue Aug 02 2016 12:59:25 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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Just what the world needed. The Starbucks for Outlook Add-In! -US_X_O365MonthlyNewsletter_July+2016_EN-US_FLAT-FILE


This is Microsoft innovation today?

[#] Wed Aug 03 2016 22:37:09 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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For those not paying attention, the "Windows 10 Anniversary Edition" (or whatever they called it) came out this week.

No big deal, it's just a service pack, but the important piece is that you no longer have to be running an "insider build" (beta quality code) to get your hands on the Windows Subsystem for Linux, aka "Ubuntu for Windows." This is a fairly big deal for those of us who live in a mixed Linux/Windows world. I've used MobaXterm for a year and a half and have been loving it, but this is even better because it's 90% "real Linux" -- basically a Linux userland running over a Windows subsystem that emulates the Linux kernel.

(I guess Richard Stallman would have an autistic tantrum unless we called it "GNU/Windows" or something)

By the way, the new version of MobaXterm is compatible with WSL so you don't have to use Microsoft's shitty terminal window. And when you run WSL inside MobaXterm you can run X11 applications and they work just fine.

So it's not as nice as a true Linux desktop, but it beats the hell out of having to run virtual machines to have both operating systems running at the same time.

[#] Thu Aug 04 2016 04:09:39 EDT from fleeb

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Oh, I'll have to play with that. Hmm... I might need to, now that I think about it. Gah... another build machine...

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