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[#] Mon Aug 22 2022 11:46:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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In another instance of "you get what you pay for" (but sometimes not even that)

The free version of Outlook web mail now has more ads -- and Microsoft is making them look like emails.

Really, the only difference between these ads and outright spam is that the ad is randomly inserted into your inbox at runtime instead of being stored in your inbox as an actual message. Aside from that, it looks, acts, and reads exactly like spam.

The message from Microsoft is clear: spam is ok as long as THEY are the ones doing it.

[#] Mon Aug 22 2022 13:40:33 EDT from Nurb432

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Spam you cant stop..  Neat.

I'm still glad my professional days are nearing the end, and i wont ever have to see another windows machine ever again and to be honest, i hate what the 'it field' has become. ( even if i were to strike back out on my own in retirement, i would get to choose.. )



[#] Sat Aug 27 2022 17:59:11 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I trust you will still be hanging out here with your fellow nerds even after you retire professionally?

[#] Sat Aug 27 2022 18:20:08 EDT from Nurb432

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Ya ill still be around. i wont drop out totally. But i can finally give things the bird i dont like..

Sat Aug 27 2022 05:59:11 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
I trust you will still be hanging out here with your fellow nerds even after you retire professionally?

 



[#] Sat Aug 27 2022 18:58:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Among friends you can do that now :)

[#] Fri Sep 09 2022 12:14:32 EDT from Nurb432

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Grrrrr

 

Just announced today that MS is now our phone provider.  Via teams crap.  Was using VoIP via an actual telecom company. 

 

F- Microsoft.  



[#] Wed Sep 28 2022 19:54:14 EDT from Greg Nesbitt

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Just announced today that MS is now our phone provider.  Via teams
crap.  Was using VoIP via an actual telecom company. 

I pushed the reply button and now I feel some obligation to say something, but my brain is just completely blank.
Teams as phone is stupidity on another level. Especially without some easily accessed alternative.

[#] Thu Sep 29 2022 12:48:53 EDT from Nurb432

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zero alternative

only consolation is you can forward incoming to a real phone but no way to call FROM my office number without teams



[#] Sat Oct 01 2022 13:39:50 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Teams as phone is stupidity on another level. Especially without some

easily accessed alternative.

Yeah. M$ can be your phone provider, or if you have an existing phone system they have a way you can tie it in.

${EMPLOYER} uses Teams but I think they just went with it because we use O365 and it comes with it. No one actually "likes" it. We're also paying for WebEx *and* Cisco Call Manager for our phones. It's pretty dumb that we're spending all this money for the same thing. Oh, and I get a phone expense for my cell, which is on top of all the other stuff.

I think Cisco is working on adding Call Manager support to the WebEx client, so at least we'll have a single client for both WebEx and our internal phone system. They're probably doing that to stay competitive with Microsoft. <shrug>

I don't care much, really. I've gotten to a point where 100% of my communication is either internal or part of a WebEx/Teams/Zoom meeting if it's partially external. When my phone does ring it is almost always some lowlife calling from a scam center overseas trying to sell me an auto warranty or solar panels. Most of the time I don't even bother starting up the client.

And of course I turned off the voice mail a long time ago.

[#] Sat Oct 01 2022 14:40:15 EDT from Nurb432

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We used to pay for webx, but that was stopped when teams was adopted and you cant use it now even if its free. Zoom client is hard to get permission to install.

I hear that once we have 100% roll out of teams phone for regular folk, ( 30k users ) jabber gets uninstalled automatically and we drop our current VoIP provider. Unsure about the call centers.  We have several BUs using something, tho i forget the name. Donno if that continues or they move to teams too.

When they switched my BU, the next day telecom crew went desk to desk looking for physical, phones to repossess. Mine was long gone, i was part of the pilot group for jabber years ago and gave up my device as it was dead weight to me, but they had no records of who still had one.  lol.

 

 



[#] Sat Oct 01 2022 16:48:04 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I have to assume this is starting to become part of tstandard corporate culture -- I never get a Teams "call" unless the person has already asked me via instant message if I have time to talk. I like it. I like it a lot.


Meetings are another story...

[#] Sat Oct 01 2022 16:59:03 EDT from Nurb432

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That is all people have been doing at my place for 3 years now.  And get pissed when you dont answer. Normally i ignore them unless i'm expecting it. Just like with a real phone :) 

Sat Oct 01 2022 04:48:04 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
I have to assume this is starting to become part of tstandard corporate culture -- I never get a Teams "call" unless the person has already asked me via instant message if I have time to talk. I like it. I like it a lot.


Meetings are another story...

 



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