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[#] Mon May 24 2021 18:44:06 EDT from Nurb432

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Isn't that how most things work?  After the founder is gone, its all perverted and the true intent is lost.

Mon May 24 2021 05:19:07 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Ironically, the Nobel prize is now given to the kinds of people that Alfred Nobel wanted LESS of.



[#] Mon May 24 2021 20:17:12 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Well, I think the Gates/Epstein scandal exposes the reason why Obama was given a Nobel Peace Prize. 

It is a corrupted award given by compromised people controlled by powerful men who manipulate politicians, leaders, and the wealthy through extortion by granting them their secret desires, then holding that fulfillment of desire over their head like a noose. 

And Obama has connections within those circles, who wanted him to have the prestige and allure and cachet of the award. 

We are in the *middle* of a Byzantine era - and we don't even recognize just how rampant the corruption is, I think. The level of manipulation at that level... you've got to give some people dirt on yourself to get admitted, at some level. You may end up getting *rich* by being made a celebrity or entertainer or a Hollywood producer - you might get localized power - but to gain international power and genuine elite wealth - you've got to deal with people who won't admit you until they've got something TERRIBLE on you. Then - it is a game of trying to get something WORSE on them.  

I've heard rumors that Obama actually has control over Hillary Clinton. I forget the exact context - but it has to do with the e-mail servers and some other things that went down during his Administration. He offered her Secretary of State as if he were helping her out - probably the same way the Clintons set up Obama to be President fully expecting to control him. 

That is part of the problem - we see them as this monolithic elite vs. US. 

When the fact is, they're probably more directly dangerous to one *another* than to anyone common. They don't want to just rule over US. They want everyone at their level to bend the knee to them, too. 

I think *this* makes that plainly evident - although it seems like not everyone sees it as clearly as I do. 

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Mon May 24 2021 14:34:15 EDT from zooer

Obama was given one ... because.... well no one really can tell us why.

He ran on ending the war in Afghanistan... the endless war.    He of course got the peace prize and kept the war going.  Democrats love war when a democrat is in charge of it.

The noble peace prize is bullshit

 



 



[#] Mon May 24 2021 21:07:04 EDT from Nurb432

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I suspect its mutual. most of DC is. Enough dirt to go around. On everyone.

 Mon May 24 2021 08:17:12 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions


I've heard rumors that Obama actually has control over Hillary Clinton. 

 


[#] Mon May 24 2021 22:20:55 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Well, there was Benghazi, and then the e-mail server. Listen... that thing, it was under subpoena, they lost it, they found it, it was wiped to DOD levels. If any of us had done that professionally with a corporate e-mail server we were responsible for under that same scenario - we would almost certainly be in prison. Then Bill met with Loretta Lynch on a private jet on the tarmac of SkyHarbor by coincidence the day before the FBI announced there wasn't anything to the claims and the investigation was being dropped. 

This is the level of corruption we're dealing with right. By the end of it, Clinton was OBAMA'S stooge, and he intended her to be his proxy as President of the US, the same way that he had been hers. 

This is total Game of Thrones/House of Cards level stuff - but it isn't made for TV drama - it is how it works at that level - and everyone wants the Iron Throne, not some second rate kingdom in the North. 

They're actually telling us how it really works all the time, and covering it up with dragons, Khalessi's tits, and white walkers. 


Mon May 24 2021 21:07:04 EDT from Nurb432

I suspect its mutual. most of DC is. Enough dirt to go around. On everyone.

 Mon May 24 2021 08:17:12 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions


I've heard rumors that Obama actually has control over Hillary Clinton. 

 


 



[#] Tue May 25 2021 08:44:32 EDT from zooer

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[#] Tue May 25 2021 11:11:22 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Hey look, I hate Obama and Clinton as much as the next guy, but we're trashing Bill Gates here. Priority One is for Bill Gates to be ruined. Destroyed.
Utterly humiliated to the point where he is a disgrace to himself and everyone around him. Disgraced so much that every shriek of every child shall be his to cherish, every babe that weeps in fear at his approach, every woman who cries "Dear God, what is that *thing*?" will reverberate forever in his Microsoft Zune.

We are talking about a man who is a bigger tyrant than Mao, Stalin, and Hitler combined. He must be destroyed.

[#] Tue May 25 2021 12:24:00 EDT from Nurb432

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lol



[#] Tue May 25 2021 13:07:29 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Your efforts to keep the room on topic are doomed... 

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Tue May 25 2021 11:11:22 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
Hey look, I hate Obama and Clinton as much as the next guy, but we're trashing Bill Gates here. Priority One is for Bill Gates to be ruined. Destroyed.
Utterly humiliated to the point where he is a disgrace to himself and everyone around him. Disgraced so much that every shriek of every child shall be his to cherish, every babe that weeps in fear at his approach, every woman who cries "Dear God, what is that *thing*?" will reverberate forever in his Microsoft Zune.

We are talking about a man who is a bigger tyrant than Mao, Stalin, and Hitler combined. He must be destroyed.

 



[#] Tue May 25 2021 13:43:58 EDT from LoanShark

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Agreed, Mossad-bashing is off-topic for the MS-bashing room, and linking Epstein to Mossad is a vile insult: to Mossad.

[#] Tue May 25 2021 21:30:07 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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So, really - this all ties back to why Gates might have legitimately thought that Epstein had the kind of influence to ensure that Gates would receive a Nobel Peace Prize - which I'm sure to Gates, is a bigger ding in the universe than pretty aluminum notebooks with a catchy logo. 

Yeah - because Mossad wouldn't use a guy who had dirt on tons of powerful and influential people to further their agenda. Spy agencies have *standards*... just ask the NSA and CIA. 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/jeffrey-epsteins-alleged-spy-ties-under-fresh-scrutiny-in-new-book

 

Granted, it is Nancy Grace covering it, and Fox was the *most* reputable site I could find giving it any airtime... but... 

there would be no compelling reason for our media and Government to lie and cover it up, if so, right?!? 

I think Gates fall is a distraction. Hell - look at how HAPPY Ig is about it - and I don't think he represents a insignificant portion of the world. Bill Gates has always been awkward, creepy, and... just had terrible public relations. From the 640k comment to the images of him in a sweater trying to look seductive (or something) on a desk throwing around floppies... 

he has always been his own worst enemy. Then the question of, "If the rumor was going around that you were hanging around with the human-trafficking pedophile ONLY because you thought he could win you a prestigious award, why would you DENY it when the only OTHER plausible reason was you wanted the only OTHER thing he had to offer, why would you DENY it?" 

The answer to that, my friends - especially when you're one of the richest men in the world - is because you don't want to have the family tragedies YOU witness make the Kennedy family seem *blessed*. 

I think Bill is going to fall. I think Bill is actually throwing himself on the sword. 

In fact - the whole notion of pedophilia, especially in America - is kind of the ultimate taboo. It is the ultimate puritan "unforgivable deed." We love to relish in how convicts in prison hate pedos more than cops in prison - and the things that happen to them - and we don't really distinguish much if it is a guy who is 34 with a girl that is 15 or 16 or if it is a 75 year old guy with a 10 year old. Not really. They all should get a bullet (it is different, of course, when it is a hot 30 year old teacher and a 15 year old boy...) And just the *implication* of it taints you - even if you're exonerated. People still think Kavanaugh was an adult man after a child. That accusation is something he is *never* going to be free of. For most people, if you're accused and male, they assume you were guilty, and if you got off, it was on some technicality. So it is also the ultimate tabloid story. Bill Gates was banging his young interns, hanging out with Jeff Epstein behind his wife's back - and YOU put the dots together, America... Even if he is *somehow* exonerated - these accusations will hang over him for the rest of his life. 

Then you have Bill Gates being put forward as the PRIMARY face of the Covid Vaccine *and* right on the heels of that, the primary face of the New World Order/Davos Great Reset thing... it leaking out that he is aligning with Big Agra to buy up all the farmland and cut red-blooded, Meat and Potatoes America off from MEAT. 

The fact that it is all so convenient - makes me very suspicious that it is far more orchestrated than we are meant to understand. 


While the notion of Epstein as a "spy" has long run rampant in the rumor mill, the book "Epstein: Dead Men Tell No Tales" – authored by Dylan Howard, Melissa Cronin, and James Robertson – proclaims that he had ties to Mossad, the Israeli national intelligence agency.

 

"When we set out to write a book about his crimes, we thought we knew the whole story. Before long, however, what we uncovered was compelling evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was a spy—largely for Israel's Mossad—and allowed to operate in the United States seemingly without consequence," Dylan Howard told Fox News. "This is a much bigger story than the world has ever known and is continually being ignored or glossed over in much of the new reporting about Epstein."

Tue May 25 2021 13:43:58 EDT from LoanShark

Agreed, Mossad-bashing is off-topic for the MS-bashing room, and linking Epstein to Mossad is a vile insult: to Mossad.

 



[#] Wed May 26 2021 07:11:26 EDT from Nurb432

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I dont think 640k was creepy, it was just his arrogance showing thru " we will decide you what you want, and you wont ask for more". 

And ya, some of their ads were not 'right', but we are looking at them from the view of 2021... back then that format was pretty common of a theme.  it was the 80s...

 



[#] Wed May 26 2021 10:11:27 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Agreed, Mossad-bashing is off-topic for the MS-bashing room, and
linking Epstein to Mossad is a vile insult: to Mossad.

Linking Epstein to Gates is a vile insult: to Epstein. The number of children abused by Microsoft products exceeds the number of children abused by Epstein, by many many orders of magnitude.

Yes, I am *delighted* by the fall of Bill Gates, and I hope it continues; I want him absolutely ruined. And I agree that it may even be a distraction.
It won't work as a distraction for those paying attention, though. We see the fnords.

[#] Wed May 26 2021 11:16:15 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Show me the equivalent faux pas that Jobs is remembered for. 

Imagine being Gates - and always living in the shadow of Jobs being the *celebrity*. All that money and you're *still* the geek. You get invited to most of the parties now, but none of the *real* after-parties. Jobs does, though. And you sit in the corner at the party while Jobs is surrounded by doting, adoring fans.  

C'mon, I've heard you guys talk about your high-school lives... I'm sure you can find some empathy for how socially frustrating Gates life and career must have been. 

Hell, it is the plotline of a dark comedy cautionary morality story from the 90s where Jim Carrey is a geek, shown always playing second fiddle to some cool good looking guy from elementary school on up - who is driven insane and turns into a super villain despite being incredibly successful - just because he always *feels* inferior. 

 
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Wed May 26 2021 07:11:26 EDT from Nurb432

 

I dont think 640k was creepy, it was just his arrogance showing thru " we will decide you what you want, and you wont ask for more". 

And ya, some of their ads were not 'right', but we are looking at them from the view of 2021... back then that format was pretty common of a theme.  it was the 80s...

 



 



[#] Wed May 26 2021 12:13:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Show me the equivalent faux pas that Jobs is remembered for. 

Trying to cure pancreatic cancer with unicorn farts and flower petals.

[#] Wed May 26 2021 14:59:31 EDT from Nurb432

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I remember a few questionable ads back then with the Steves in them. ( as i do vaguely remember a couple with Woz too but he was not as visible as Jobs. )

But it was the 80s. Everyone did it. 

BIg hair, stupid clothes, weird ads..  



[#] Wed May 26 2021 15:01:24 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Yeah, dying and trying desperate cures gets an instant pass. I mean, I don't *like* Jobs and I never even blinked when I heard about him trying that. I'd go to Mexico and let an indigenous man shove peyote buttons up my dirty penny at that point, if I thought it had a chance of curing me - and I wouldn't be the first or last desperate person to fall for a scam in a similar situation. Among the cult of Saint Jobs of Cupertino - it didn't put a flake of tarnish on his aura of uber cool Baron of Silicon Valley. 

Gates had to turn Seattle *into* the Bay Area's Northern annex. Microsoft wasn't cool enough for the Valley, ever. 




Wed May 26 2021 12:13:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
Show me the equivalent faux pas that Jobs is remembered for. 

Trying to cure pancreatic cancer with unicorn farts and flower petals.

 



[#] Wed May 26 2021 17:43:31 EDT from Nurb432

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I tend to agree, if i'm screwed and about to die, and i have the ability, id try most anything too. What do i have to lose?



[#] Wed May 26 2021 19:40:25 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I think you're missing the point. Jobs had modern medicine available to him for a long time and he CHOSE freakazoid medicine instead, while his cancer was still curable. By the time he wised up it was too late.

Jobs was a snake oil salesman. Woz was the real genius ... and when Woz was sick, and being treated with real modern medicine, Jobs tried to cut him out of Apple.

[#] Wed May 26 2021 19:56:59 EDT from Nurb432

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You wont get me to disagree on that one. Tho in the beginning he did need Jobs, to help 'steer' him.

Wed May 26 2021 07:40:25 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
Woz was the real genius ... 

 



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