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[#] Wed Jan 22 2020 11:03:44 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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A key Volkswagen exec is admitting that "fully autonomous" self-driving cars may never happen.

[ https://tinyurl.com/wr8arbr ]

There are lower levels of automation, which are supposedly having some success; these involve things like "geofencing" and other things done to the environment to help the computer along. What they're talking about here is Level 5 automation, where the vehicle is totally computer controlled and may not even have manual controls.

Quite frankly, I would prefer if we never got there.

Not to mention, if you're going to build a special road where optimal conditions are guaranteed and rogue drivers are not permitted to coexist on it ... we already have that; it's called a railway.

[#] Sun Jan 26 2020 02:31:44 EST from arabella

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Wed Jan 22 2020 11:03:44 AM EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Not to mention, if you're going to build a special road where optimal conditions are guaranteed and rogue drivers are not permitted to coexist on it ... we already have that; it's called a railway.

 

Clearly you've never experienced UK rail travel! 



[#] Wed Feb 05 2020 12:50:17 EST from LoanShark

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Yeah, personally I think what Tesla is doing is delusional. I don't think computer vision will ever be good enough, even if it's lidar-enhanced

[#] Thu Feb 06 2020 09:53:11 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Clearly you've never experienced UK rail travel! 

Only from watching videos. :)

Have you traveled on rail in Europe outside of UK? We were watching videos of railroad crossing activations and some of them stop traffic for some number of minutes before the train is even within sight of the crossing. What's with that?

[#] Thu Feb 06 2020 11:42:14 EST from LoanShark

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I've experienced Irish rail travel. Kind of a shitshow when temps drop below freezing, but that's true of everything on that island. Nobody knows what to do about cold.

[#] Thu Feb 06 2020 12:37:48 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold

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I've done rail through Holland...... Nothing special.

[#] Thu Feb 06 2020 15:42:36 EST from darknetuser

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Clearly you've never experienced UK rail travel! 


I have experienced train travel in a wagon full of rail unionist leaders who boasted all the way how they were sucking up the funds of the government and the union to pay their whores and vices.

Nowadays I don't take the train anymore.

[#] Fri Feb 14 2020 16:08:58 EST from athos-mn

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My pecular pedal car/bike thing hit a snag, or more specifically busted a weld. Neither the bike shop nor the welders I contacted really wanted to disassemble the thing to get at it, so it's being shipped back to the manfacturer. It's under warranty, but it's also a tiny company so it'll probably be 2-3 months before it comes back. In the meantime I bought studded tires on my regular bike and have been using that when it's not below zero and massively windy. The later's not a huge issue durng the summer but slightly moreso right now.

[#] Wed May 06 2020 15:20:45 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I would have used it as an excuse to buy welding equipment :)

That was in February ... are you back on the road yet?

[#] Wed Jun 03 2020 12:45:39 EDT from athos-mn

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I have, but the weather was nice enough so I've only taken it out a few times, in favor of my normal bike. And since my commute to work is almost completely gone (I go in maybe once a week), I've been doing more distance rides just to kill time - 30-45 miles. I may end up upgrading my road bike to something a little more comfortable to being in 3-4 hours at a time - but not until this fall or winter, once stocks for bikes have recovered and prices have gone down.

[#] Sun Nov 01 2020 09:36:11 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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We haven't forgotten :)

Cooler weather coming, so give us a full report!



[#] Tue Nov 10 2020 19:27:55 EST from zooer

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How many people here have dash cams for their cars?

I was able to get a free dash cam at one point, I use the second camera facing out the rear window. 



[#] Tue Nov 10 2020 22:23:58 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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I had one, but it annoyed my wife, and we're not Russia, and eventually it just ended up tossed in the glove compartment. 
Also, low quality image. It was a cheap webcam that ran on 12vdc and saved to memory card, basically. 

Tue Nov 10 2020 19:27:55 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

How many people here have dash cams for their cars?

I was able to get a free dash cam at one point, I use the second camera facing out the rear window. 



 



[#] Thu Nov 12 2020 09:37:34 EST from zooer

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People get into car accidents all over the world, if you have some evidence that can help you it is good to have. 

I am wondering why it annoyed your wife.



[#] Thu Nov 12 2020 12:49:21 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Thu Nov 12 2020 09:37:34 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

People get into car accidents all over the world, if you have some evidence that can help you it is good to have. 

I am wondering why it annoyed your wife.



I suspect because outside of Russians, it is a *particular* kind of computer-geek/ubernerd that wants a dash cam - and she still wants to think that at the very least she has that part of me so beat down that it is afraid to show its face in public. :) 

She isn't really *wrong* about any of it. If I see a guy with a dashcam on their car, I'm never surprised to find out they run a Telnet BBS or have a Ham Radio license... "3D printer? Makerbot? C'mon - guy... there has to be *something*... SCA events?  We'll figure it out!" 

"Well, I collect retro computers from the 80s... just like like, NES and Genesis consoles - like... CP/M machines. And I use them still... " 

"BING BING BING!" :) 

 

 

 



[#] Thu Nov 12 2020 13:27:13 EST from zooer

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One of the reasons I wanted a rear facing cameras is because of all the times I have stopped at a traffic light and the person behind me was picking their nose.  Of course the couple having an argument or the person singing and dancing in their seat are entertaining as well. 

When I drive I will catch people driving poorly, there isn't always an accident but there is plenty of poor driving.  

A few weeks ago I witnessed a school bus speeding and making an improper pass. I uploaded the video to youtube, reported it to the busing supervisor.  I am not trying to be a Karen here, this was a school bus. I am sure there wasn't any action taken.

 



[#] Thu Nov 12 2020 15:53:25 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Thu Nov 12 2020 13:27:13 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

One of the reasons I wanted a rear facing cameras is because of all the times I have stopped at a traffic light and the person behind me was picking their nose.  Of course the couple having an argument or the person singing and dancing in their seat are entertaining as well. 

When I drive I will catch people driving poorly, there isn't always an accident but there is plenty of poor driving.  

A few weeks ago I witnessed a school bus speeding and making an improper pass. I uploaded the video to youtube, reported it to the busing supervisor.  I am not trying to be a Karen here, this was a school bus. I am sure there wasn't any action taken.

 



I've had a cell phone since 1990, when I was 20. At first I was very resistant to claims that driving and talking caused accidents. At some point I realized that there is an 80/20 rule going on here, and in the past, the people who had Cell Phones were inevitably on the 20% side of that rule. Cell phone owners were in professions that demanded detail oriented, strategic planning, multi tasking personalities. People in the top 20% of their professions. 

We've made them available to the other 80% of the population, including the bottom 20%... and those people can barely make it from point A to point B when there is NOTHING to distract them, let alone a flashing, vibrating, chirping Instant Self Affirmation machine plugged into a 24x7x365 connection to that dopamine reward. 

Carnage ensues. 

People already drive badly - hugging blind spots, darting into spaces without considering if the vehicle behind can actually stop, swerving to make a turn they've missed rather than just going on and circling back. A lot of it is a lack of simple courtesy. People mash the pedal at the green light, and wait until the last minute to stand on the brake. Turn your signal on to merge, and rather than drop back to let you in, the guy in the next lane will speed up to cut that space off. It creates a chain of bad driving... Californian driving. Californians don't indicate lane changes precisely because of this, "Oh, you wanted OVER? Too bad..." phenomenon. We start to merge and THEN hit our indicator if we do it at all. 

This was a habit I had to unlearn when I was in Ohio. Now that I'm in Arizona, which is basically becoming a suburb of LA - I find I'm picking it up again. Aggressive driving AS defensive driving. Do unto them before they do unto you. 

 

 



[#] Fri Nov 13 2020 12:13:48 EST from LoanShark

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got in a car accident in the end of September; SNOBOL3 was rolled over and totalled. The other driver was being an aggressive maniac, probably hopped up on drugs. We'll never be able to prove intent, but I believe he *deliberately* sideswiped me into the Jersey barrier on I-95.

Dashcam is indeed a good thing to have; I didn't have dashcam but one of the witnesses caught the whole thing on video.

[#] Fri Nov 13 2020 13:04:46 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Fri Nov 13 2020 12:13:48 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

got in a car accident in the end of September; SNOBOL3 was rolled over and totalled. The other driver was being an aggressive maniac, probably hopped up on drugs. We'll never be able to prove intent, but I believe he *deliberately* sideswiped me into the Jersey barrier on I-95.

Dashcam is indeed a good thing to have; I didn't have dashcam but one of the witnesses caught the whole thing on video.

The Jersey turnpike is absolutely one of the more "Aggressive Driver" hotspots in the country. It and L.A. Jersey is just aggressive everywhere. The subway is aggressive. Walking down the street in the suburbs of Redbank you get aggressive people. 


Arizona is a bunch of So Cal immigrants who drive like they're in L.A., a bunch of retirees, and a bunch of snowbirders who drive like they're on an empty country road in Nebraska and they've got nowhere to be in a hurry. 

That makes for interesting driving experiences. 



[#] Fri Nov 13 2020 18:11:13 EST from zooer

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Your recent accident is why I asked.

Unfortunately cameras do not show the sides of a car, having four cameras is ridiculous, but I do recommend a camera with at least 170° viewing angle.  They have dedicated head units that have a forward facing camera and a cable connection to a smaller rear facing camera.  Having the built-in GPS will show your speed.  If you don't have the microphone recording at all times, quick access to the microphone on/off toggle is important.  You might want the ability to turn the microphone on and repeat license plate and car information in case the camera isn't able to get a clear picture of the vehicle.  "Blue Ford Festa, Alpha Igloo Foxtrot, one two three" (repeat)



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