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[#] Sat Sep 30 2023 15:25:11 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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i helped decommission two CDC 3800's, it was a grab fest to get the
"core" memory modules.  alas.. i was low man in the room and wasnt

Nice. I'm so glad you're here. You're among peers. :)

[#] Sat Sep 30 2023 15:30:09 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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So ... Raspberry Pi 5

Anyone checked out the specs yet? I was having a conversation with Nurb about the ARM board he put up for me to do development on, and how I noticed that it (a NanoPi) was much faster than a Raspberry Pi. I think the RPi is both the best and worst thing to happen, since they did an amazing job bringing SBC computing to the masses in a way that wouldn't have happened otherwise; while at the same time the boards released so far haven't really been all that great.

The 5 looks poised to change that. Faster CPU, faster video, faster I/O (much of which is due to a new custom southbridge), and it's even got one lane of PCIe to which you could attach an NVMe drive. Christopher Barnatt and Jeff Geeling both praised it in their reviews and it looks fast enough to daily drive.

Thoughts?

[#] Sat Sep 30 2023 15:45:02 UTC from Nurb432

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RPI is still sub-par. They always trail behind the industry.  The only thing they have going for them is the ecosystem. 



[#] Sun Oct 01 2023 08:37:00 UTC from test2

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peers! which one of you is holding onto my 16k ram core module!!

 

Sat Sep 30 2023 11:25:11 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
i helped decommission two CDC 3800's, it was a grab fest to get the
"core" memory modules.  alas.. i was low man in the room and wasnt

Nice. I'm so glad you're here. You're among peers. :)

 



[#] Sun Oct 01 2023 10:55:26 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Hehe. I don't have your core memory, but I might have a 300 bps acoustic coupler somewhere.

[#] Sun Oct 01 2023 11:28:18 UTC from Nurb432

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I had one until the great purge.  Black plastic, wood grain highlights.  Served me well for many years. 

Sun Oct 01 2023 06:55:26 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
Hehe. I don't have your core memory, but I might have a 300 bps acoustic coupler somewhere.

 



[#] Sun Oct 01 2023 11:29:52 UTC from Nurb432

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Not me either. 

But i do have a perhaps 1k bubble memory module kicking around still somewhere.

Sun Oct 01 2023 04:37:00 EDT from test2

peers! which one of you is holding onto my 16k ram core module!!

 



[#] Sun Oct 01 2023 13:39:41 UTC from Nurb432

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Another thought to add..  just ran into this today. trying to build a webcam streaming thing on an orange Pi i had.  Just bought a 60 dollar camera for it. grrrr.  ( and having library issues.. but it may not work at all according to this )

Walled garden hardware. NO. F-them.

 

 

Sat Sep 30 2023 11:30:09 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

So ... Raspberry Pi 5

Anyone checked out the specs yet? I was having a conversation with Nurb about the ARM board he put up for me to do development on, and how I noticed that it (a NanoPi) was much faster than a Raspberry Pi. I think the RPi is both the best and worst thing to happen, since they did an amazing job bringing SBC computing to the masses in a way that wouldn't have happened otherwise; while at the same time the boards released so far haven't really been all that great.

The 5 looks poised to change that. Faster CPU, faster video, faster I/O (much of which is due to a new custom southbridge), and it's even got one lane of PCIe to which you could attach an NVMe drive. Christopher Barnatt and Jeff Geeling both praised it in their reviews and it looks fast enough to daily drive.

Thoughts?

 



[#] Tue Oct 03 2023 16:05:39 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Cool.  My acoustic looks exactly like this:

They must have made a lot of these because it's easy to find photographs of them on the web.

Actually it's sitting somewhere in the garage at my mom and dad's house, which I need to clean out because I want them to sell the place and move into something a couple of people who are almost 80 can actually maintain.  My dad once said that he saved the front panel of an IBM 360 and has it down there somewhere.  I was so excited until I discovered that it was only the nameplate, not the whole panel.  :(

Acoustic couplers will never be useful again.  But it's such a beautiful piece of history.



[#] Tue Oct 03 2023 20:48:13 UTC from Nurb432

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lol

Tue Oct 03 2023 12:05:39 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

 I was so excited until I discovered that it was only the nameplate, not the whole panel.  :(

 



[#] Thu Oct 05 2023 14:24:29 UTC from Nurb432

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this sort of qualifies for the scumbag room too, but i guess Intel is incompetent and now spinning Altera back off ( the FPGA company they bought about 10 years ago )    Great, id rather see them independent again, i dont trust Intel.  Now if AMD would do the same and set xilinx free again...

Link for reference ( ya i know, even tho i'm annoyed by the industry now, i still get and peek at the news letters.  But at least i dont pay for subscriptions and paper anymore. Baby steps. ) 

https://www.eejournal.com/article/intel-plans-to-spin-off-fpga-group-as-an-independent-company-nine-years-after-buying-altera/



[#] Tue Oct 10 2023 20:04:52 UTC from msgrhys

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I've noticed mainly two open source ISAs: RISC-V and Power ISA. Which one do you think has a better future? Which one do you think is technically better?



[#] Tue Oct 10 2023 20:17:44 UTC from LadySerenaKitty

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POWER has decades of history.  rv is new and still doesn't have an established ecosystem.

Tue Oct 10 2023 16:04:52 EDT from msgrhys Subject: RISC-V vs Power ISA

I've noticed mainly two open source ISAs: RISC-V and Power ISA. Which one do you think has a better future? Which one do you think is technically better?



 



[#] Tue Oct 10 2023 21:15:30 UTC from Nurb432

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Ya, it does, just not as mature as lets say X86. But its getting there, fast.  

Power, to be honest at this point i would not bother. I think the only people making hem now is IBM, for their own stuff.  ( and this is coming from an ex-fan )

Tue Oct 10 2023 16:17:44 EDT from LadySerenaKitty Subject: Re: RISC-V vs Power ISA

POWER has decades of history.  rv is new and still doesn't have an established ecosystem.

 


[#] Tue Oct 10 2023 21:16:26 UTC from Nurb432

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RISC-V is the future. 

Might as well get on the train early. 

Tue Oct 10 2023 16:04:52 EDT from msgrhys Subject: RISC-V vs Power ISA

I've noticed mainly two open source ISAs: RISC-V and Power ISA. Which one do you think has a better future? Which one do you think is technically better?



 



[#] Tue Oct 10 2023 22:12:38 UTC from Nurb432

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And speaking of RISC-V  ... Well dammit this will set things back.  I did predict this. i was hoping i was wrong.   Calling for restrictions on RISC-V by our wonderful government.  Grr 

 

https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-china-tech-war-risc-v-chip-technology-emerges-new-battleground-2023-10-06/



[#] Tue Oct 10 2023 22:32:25 UTC from msgrhys

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Tue Oct 10 2023 18:12:38 EDT from Nurb432

And speaking of RISC-V  ... Well dammit this will set things back.  I did predict this. i was hoping i was wrong.   Calling for restrictions on RISC-V by our wonderful government.  Grr 

 

https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-china-tech-war-risc-v-chip-technology-emerges-new-battleground-2023-10-06/



Well reading the article gives me the impression that the goal is to stop American companies from giving technology to Communist China, which I'm all for, assuming they don't slip something else in (and of course they will).



[#] Tue Oct 10 2023 23:34:26 UTC from Nurb432

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It will hinder development, and step 2 will be banning imports.   

Tue Oct 10 2023 18:32:25 EDT from msgrhys

 

Tue Oct 10 2023 18:12:38 EDT from Nurb432

And speaking of RISC-V  ... Well dammit this will set things back.  I did predict this. i was hoping i was wrong.   Calling for restrictions on RISC-V by our wonderful government.  Grr 

 

https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-china-tech-war-risc-v-chip-technology-emerges-new-battleground-2023-10-06/



Well reading the article gives me the impression that the goal is to stop American companies from giving technology to Communist China, which I'm all for, assuming they don't slip something else in (and of course they will).



 



[#] Wed Oct 11 2023 02:45:05 UTC from msgrhys

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Tue Oct 10 2023 19:34:26 EDT from Nurb432

and step 2 will be banning imports.   

 

We shouldn't be doing business with hostile/communist nations. American industry is all but dead thanks to Bill Clinton opening up trade with China.



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