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[#] Wed Sep 17 2014 13:33:10 EDT from vince-q

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The real 'elephant in the room' when it comes to self-driving cars is liability. Who carries the insurance when the car is being driven by a factory installed gadget? And if there's an accident, is the gadget responsible? The owner?? The factory??? Some, all, or none????

Wheeeeeeeeee!!! Lots of Lawyers gonna make Lots of Money!!!!!!!
<evil grin>

[#] Thu Sep 18 2014 07:33:38 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Heh... if Google's AI is found at fault for an accident, whose license

gets points?

Microsoft will be held liable. Always. :)

The owner of the vehicle is typically the insurance holder, so the owner is probably still on the hook for anything that happens, and if they're not liable, they'll be held liable anyway, because lawyers.

This is the same reason you can't lease a car anymore in some states. Now they call it "SmartBuy" and they claim it's new-and-improved but it's really just a loan whose payments are structured like a lease (low with a gigantic payoff at the end or you can surrender the vehicle). Some shyster figured out how to hold the actual owner of the vehicle (the leasing company) liable in an accident, so now they don't want to be the owner anymore.

[#] Thu Sep 18 2014 09:26:31 EDT from fleeb

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Heh, the idea of a blind person being held liable for an accident amuses me.

[#] Fri Sep 19 2014 16:40:16 EDT from vince-q

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In California you are required to register your car within 10 days of moving here. Not a bad rule.

Now for the story:

In September 2001 - roughly 3 months after moving here - I was stopped by CHP. The cpp said "I've seen you in this vehicle for a few months now, and I am going to cite you for not registering it in California."

Me (never being afraid to share Reality with cops):

"Well, you can cite the OWNER to your heart's content - it is a leased vehicle - so cite away. I will just show up in court and have my lease documents with me. Get the BANK to do it, and they are in NEW JERSEY - not my job!"

No ticket was issued.

[#] Sat Sep 20 2014 08:09:04 EDT from dothebart

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In germany may choose the plate freely meanwhile since car rental Co.s can Do that anyway 

[#] Thu May 07 2015 15:27:31 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I had lunch at a Greek restaurant today.

And it occurred to me that the restaurant's accounts receivable is probably larger than the GDP of Greece itself.

[#] Thu May 07 2015 18:24:47 EDT from LoanShark

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:) Greece has a GDP about the size of... Greater Miami. Or so I'm told. It's a wonder this tiny blip of a country has caused so much concern.

[#] Sat May 09 2015 22:41:01 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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It has a lot to do with their attitude, which is really bad.

I have a Greek friend who tells us often that in Greece all they do is sit around smoking cigarettes and talking about how much they hate America.

So their economy collapsed because they weren't, y'know, actually participating in civilization or anything.  So the EU bailed them out, and as part of the bailout imposed austerity measures.

In response, Greece elected a far-left government whose leaders basically said "forget the austerity measures, we're going to continue to spend into oblivion, and all that money Germany loaned to us in the bailout, we don't have to pay it back because nazis, so there."  (I'm paraphrasing but not exaggerating.)

So there's enough drama there to make the situation interesting to anyone who likes to follow the global socioeconomic stage.

[#] Sun May 10 2015 14:19:53 EDT from zooer

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yeah, but America.

[#] Mon May 11 2015 04:26:04 EDT from dothebart

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yea, lots of greeks in germany too...

The problem is, that after the dictator was removed in greece in the 80'ies the structures were kept the same.

so, one keeps waiting for grexit.

[#] Tue May 12 2015 11:31:56 EDT from LoanShark

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' Murrica

[#] Thu May 14 2015 11:37:46 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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yeah, but America.

Yes, I know ... and rest assured there are people hard at work (and succeeding) at making America suck as much as the rest of the world.

[#] Fri Jun 26 2015 08:13:57 EDT from zooer

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To the German users of uncensored, Isabel Schayani of ARD German Radio and TV visited Utica, NY. If you come to
Utica you will be about four hours away from the home of uncensored, you could drive down for steak sandwhiches
every weekend.

Why is this in the economic room? Because central NY is an economic failure.

[#] Sun Jul 05 2015 22:34:23 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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so, one keeps waiting for grexit.

Is that going to happen now? It seems that the people of Greece just voted "no" to austerity measures, basically declaring that they are going to keep spending money even though they're bankrupt and no one is going to lend them any more money.

When is it time to pay the piper?

[#] Mon Jul 06 2015 12:42:42 EDT from fleeb

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They'll default. And then they'll truly know austerity.


[#] Mon Jul 06 2015 16:25:13 EDT from zooer

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Do you know who else shrugs?

[#] Tue Jul 07 2015 15:01:45 EDT from fleeb

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Nicolae Ceausescu, as the bullets hit him?

[#] Wed Jul 08 2015 11:46:59 EDT from LoanShark

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[#] Wed Jul 08 2015 13:19:30 EDT from zooer

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Very good Loan Shark.

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