But some of us would say the opposite about that same list, and they are products of lying and cheating and stealing. ( and one, never existed in the first place.. and was created as a vehicle to lie and cheat others.. Much like the 'promise' the others put out as they destroy things, who are unfortunately, existed in reality. )

Fri Dec 26 2025 13:49:45 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

Ghandi, Christ, MLK, Trump, Charlie Kirk, etc.

When the powerful elite build their lives around lying cheating and stealing, the one thing they cannot tolerate existing is the genuine article.

Accidents do happen but i try to refrain from it.

Actually watched another movie last night ( ok, not truly TV, but it was i on my TV, and i streamed it from tubi since i cant get CC to work properly in jellyfin yet... lol )    Fifth Element. 

Sun Dec 28 2025 22:15:33 UTC from PanaSonic

I didn't see Nurb in 5 consecutive rooms, change the topic from something at least vaguely on topic, to "How Much I Love (something completely off topic)".

Now, back to Television :-D 

 

 

and i think tonight is a good night to watch some Adams family. The real one, with the amazing Carolyn Jones. 

Grr freaking auto-destruct..  Changed the spelling i freaking know how to spell it leave my typing alone!!  . **** Addams ***..

Sun Dec 28 2025 23:46:43 UTC from Nurb432

and i think tonight is a good night to watch some Adams family. The real one, with the amazing Carolyn Jones. 

X-files reboot in the works. I have one thing to say:

NOOOOOOOOOOO

The Netflix reboot where Mulder is TG and Scully is black, and a lesbian? 

Oooh. I just can't wait! 

Tue Dec 30 2025 19:15:13 UTC from Nurb432

X-files reboot in the works. I have one thing to say:

 

NOOOOOOOOOOO

It was inevitable, there are only a finite number of things left to ruin.

Not to mention, the public perception of the FBI isn't anywhere near what it was 30 years ago.

This is one of those 1984 things - where they tell us,
"You can't trust the FBI." 
"Oh, now it is OUR FBI, you can trust it..." 
"Nope, you can't trust it again." 

And at some point, I don't know what I can and can't trust. Which the conspiracy theorists say is the goal - to make it so you don't trust anything. Then you're basically a Communist Soviet Era Citizen - you just agree, so you don't disappear. 

Fri Jan 23 2026 22:47:29 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

It was inevitable, there are only a finite number of things left to ruin.

Not to mention, the public perception of the FBI isn't anywhere near what it was 30 years ago.

Tho a bit OT for the room but related to the above:

1984 ended up being a blueprint. He wrote it too well.

It showed on TV... so... on topic. 

But yes. He was also a leftist - as I understand it. He was concerned about Right extremism. 

Which isn't invalid. It isn't a linear line from Left to right.... it is a ring - I love those examples, that show fascism and authoritarianism at the bottom of the ring - right next to one another. 

I get that. I don't want FAR right. I'd be a political dissident so fast. The same as the far left. 

I just don't get why so many right leaning people seem to get this - but so few LEFT leaning people will agree. The extremes end up at the same point - "if you don't agree, you are a danger and should be re-educated or eliminated." 

I want discourse and disagreement and compromise. If I were emperor of the world - the world would be a perfect place... for ME alone. Everyone else would be miserable. 

So I don't want that, unless I get to be king. 

Sat Jan 24 2026 15:42:24 UTC from DarfWader

Tho a bit OT for the room but related to the above:

1984 ended up being a blueprint. He wrote it too well.