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[#] Fri May 22 2026 18:18:05 EDT from Nurb432

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No, that isn't the reason. the reason is that it is helpful in several areas.  One of them is saving me time with coding, or finding bugs. Forgetting the time required for me to 'plan', It can do things faster than i can type.

Not to mention image and music generation. 

 

Fri May 22 2026 15:09:02 EDT from zelgomer
 The only reason you don't is because you think it's "AI."

 



[#] Fri May 29 2026 13:26:34 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Gemini / Antigravity

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Google: "We've created a brand new tool for you, that will require you to build an entirely new workflow!"

Also Google: "Your existing tools will stop working in four weeks."


I think I'm going to like the 'agy' (antigravity) command line toolset way better than the Code Assist plugin for VS Code, but geez guys, just one month for the whole world to change their workflows? I guess one month is an eternity in the world of AI.

[#] Fri May 29 2026 15:47:41 EDT from Nurb432

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Here lately, it is. 

Speaking of, another album went up this week on YT.

Fri May 29 2026 13:26:34 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Gemini / Antigravity

I guess one month is an eternity in the world of AI.

 



[#] Mon Jun 01 2026 07:18:44 EDT from Nurb432

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So i have a minimal ( tiny ) windows 11 VM to access VDI since where i work, they are butt-heads and turned off Linux and web access ( and ChromeOS )

I ended up installing a 3rd party browser ( with tiny, you get nothing ) so that i could login, as it needs a web browser to do authentication.  Worked fine for the last year or so.  At some point installed chrome so i could flash a recovery USB for ChromeOS ( flex ).   ( now i can find official images to burn directly, so its not needed. "Recovery" wont work on Linux, only windows, which is really odd.

I still use the 3rd party one as it ignores the "don't save password" nonsense on the login for the VDI stuff. Saves me a (small) step.    Today, im now getting popups "don't you want to use chrome instead"  

 

Really google? That is a move Microsoft makes.. 



[#] Mon Jun 01 2026 21:28:57 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Ok, I actually do like it.

agy just sits there in the console and you interact with it, and it just goes and does what you tell it to, asking for permission to open files, run commands, etc. as it needs to. Paired with neovim in another terminal window it's getting the job done quite well.

And I found a use for AI code assistance at the opposite end of the spectrum from where it is usually applied. Over the last couple of days I've been giving it some of my oldest, sloppiest code and having the thing clean it up. Reindentation, refactoring to remove ugly loops, more meaningful variable names, removal of dead code and variables, the works. It's really quite nice in that area. It's better than using AI to replace the human in writing code from scratch (which generates slop) or rewriting it in Rust (which contaminates the whole world).

Whether it's new code or reworking old code, I'm working in small, incremental, understandable scopes. And when doing so on a well established code base, it writes code the way I would write it.

[#] Tue Jun 02 2026 07:05:44 EDT from Nurb432

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Right, the same way people should code, in my opinion anyway. Draft up requirements and put a stake in it. Get the data dictionary in order. Get the overall flow documented by breaking it all up into small functional pieces. Cover your wall with the design chart and data flows.. then start working. 

Mon Jun 01 2026 21:28:57 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: Gemini / Antigravity


Whether it's new code or reworking old code, I'm working in small, incremental, understandable scopes. 

 



[#] Wed Jun 03 2026 12:46:34 EDT from Nurb432

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May not be news to everyone else since i don't keep up on things like i used to, but it is news to me.

For google search, if you don't want the AI interaction, just add -AI to the end of your search.  It will stick with the traditional search instead. 



[#] Fri Jun 05 2026 16:55:54 EDT from Nurb432

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While i dont like getting bitten anymore than anyone else, they are part of the food chain so i cant support this in the slightest and its wrong...  and what in the world is Google doing being involved in something like this? 

 

 

"Google Wants to Release 32 Million Mosquitoes in California and Florida. The company is asking the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency for permission to release millions of sterilized mosquitoes in order to fight their disease-spreading counterparts"

 

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/google-wants-to-release-32-million-mosquitoes-in-california-and-florida-heres-why-180988892/



[#] Sat Jun 06 2026 15:35:01 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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For google search, if you don't want the AI interaction, just add -AI
to the end of your search.  It will stick with the traditional search
instead. 

Or you could just, you know, not use google.

search.citadel.org is your friend.

[#] Mon Jun 08 2026 17:16:10 EDT from darknetuser

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Or you could just, you know, not use google.

search.citadel.org is your friend.


Exactly.

I actually run a local metasearcher for my friends, different from Searx but in the same style. However I use search.citadel.org a whole lot and it works very well and screws Google in its ass.

[#] Fri Jul 03 2026 00:41:50 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Did you think Google was still the "Do No Evil" company? They're not, "A Little Evil is Necessary, it turns out".

 

 



[#] Wed Jul 15 2026 09:21:44 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I think they meant it at the time they said it. In fact, the debate over that topic was the genesis of this room, originally.

Then ... Google became huge. And a big powerful company with lots of power attracts evil people who have mega greed. And it attracts politically motivated hangers-on who inject their agenda into the company. Finally, when it is a public company it's difficult to avoid board-mandated evil.

And of course with Google, it's clear that Larry Page and Sergei Brin lost control of the culture of the company.

[#] Wed Jul 15 2026 10:48:23 EDT from Nurb432

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I agree, in the beginning that is true and it was their intent. But times changed, and management changed. now its "Do less evil then the other guys".

 

Happens a lot really. Once a company grows to the point that the original founders are pushed out, things change. 



[#] Sun Aug 02 2026 02:43:40 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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I concur. 

 



[#] Thu Aug 06 2026 08:41:46 EDT from Nurb432

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Tho im a little late, seems they finally released an ARM64 version of Chrome earlier this year.  Not sure why it took them so long, Chromium was running fine for years and years on everything, and they had it inside ARM based ChromeOS machines for at least a decade. 

And when this new OS of theirs comes out officially, ill say the same about android subsystem.  They had it running fine with their Intel Chromebooks for years and years..  I have evidence of this on my shelf from google directly, and i know if you bought 'official' intel devices from a 3rd party ( like CTL, or lenovo, or Asus, for example ) it worked fine there too. Not sure why it was so hard they could not include it in flex. Would have made it a no-brainier for many non-techies to upgrade to when win10 dies, which was the entire point of it in the first place to give people an out short of the dumpster and a new purchase, since most would not be able to handle getting Linux installed.. ( and of course move them into the google ecosystem, but that is still less bad than staying with MS, or moving to Apple )



[#] Fri Aug 07 2026 09:09:10 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Yesterday I came to the realization that I've been missing text messages.  I'd been using SMS only (no RCS) for quite a while and when I realized something was wrong I thought, well, I don't know what's wrong but I'll bet if I open Google Messages (instead of Textra, which is what I was using) it will shed some light on it.

Sure enough, the moment I opened Google Messages, the entire backlog came through.  Here's why.

I got a new phone early last week.  Moto G Stylus, nice little handset.  When I activated it, Google Messages started up, because that's the default on Android, of course.  And the moment it did that, it registered with the RCS server, which told the world "hey everyone, send IG's texts over here!"   Even though I then disabled the app, the RCS registration had already activated.

This isn't a dig on Google; the RCS experience is far better than the SMS experience.  But maybe it should at least take you through a quick confirmation screen to opt in before telling the world to send it your text messages.  Anyway, quick word of advice to anyone who wants to stick with SMS, if you activate a new phone, make sure to then go and opt out of RCS (or Apple's equivalent).



[#] Fri Aug 07 2026 09:25:20 EDT from Nurb432

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Or in my case, just use google-voice.  Since i dont use my carrier's connection for anything other than data when im not on WiFi. 

I know i know.. evil bla bla. But its free ( it wasn't when i first got it.. then google bought them and opened ), it works, i have switched carriers several times and never even cared what the new number was. Or fight getting mine moved.. And a phone ( or table, or pc ) with only WiFi connects just fine too.   



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