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[#] Sun Aug 25 2024 20:48:56 UTC from darknetuser

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I hope this makes more people move to SubscribeStar, because Jack
Conte is kind of a sleazebag anyway.



This sis the first time I hear of subscribestar. I will have to look it up. Thanks.

[#] Fri Aug 30 2024 19:41:12 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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This sis the first time I hear of subscribestar. I will have to look it up. Thanks.

Yeah, they do the same thing as Patreon but they don't cave in to cancel culture.



[#] Mon Sep 23 2024 15:58:30 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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As many of you know, the home server I built earlier this year bears the hostname "kremvax" as a nod to the fictitious computer that supposedly brought UseNet behind the iron curtain in the 1990s. I also have a development machine called "franklin" because it was once located near Franklin, IN. But it's here now.

I have decided that "franklin" is now named after the computer that was a better Apple than anything Apple ever made: the Franklin Ace 1000. Back in the day, one of my friends had a Franklin, and it really was a better experience.
It had a full size, full motion keyboard. It had more memory and the language card built in. It had lower case characters long before Apple had them. Unfortunately, it also ripped off Steve Wozniak's ROMs so they got sueballed out of existence.

My computer back then was a Commodore 64 (a TI-99 and an S-100 with CP/M before that) but my Apple-using friends switched to Amiga around the same time I did. I probably should have bought an Apple after they were obsolete but before they were retro.

[#] Mon Sep 23 2024 17:36:10 UTC from Nurb432

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I remember those.   But we were more of of an Atari and Commordore area than Apple or Tandy so never really saw in person when it was new.

In the late 90s a friend ran across one they had in a box, forgot to ask me first before it was gone.  I still had my retro collection, would have been nice to have.



[#] Sat Nov 09 2024 21:06:15 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Word on the street is that the next version of Mac OS is going to prohibit the installation of any apps that are not signed by Apple. This requires a developer license ($100/year) and having Apple gatekeep everything you publish.

Are they going to get away with this? Or are they going to drive even more users into the open arms of Linux?

[#] Sat Nov 09 2024 21:15:54 UTC from Nurb432

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Well, they get away with it with iOS, and have for a long time.. Far too many of their 'customers' are sheep, so yes.

 

 

Sat Nov 09 2024 21:06:15 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Mac OS to ban unsigned apps?

Word on the street is that the next version of Mac OS is going to prohibit the installation of any apps that are not signed by Apple. This requires a developer license ($100/year) and having Apple gatekeep everything you publish.

Are they going to get away with this? Or are they going to drive even more users into the open arms of Linux?

 



[#] Sat Nov 09 2024 21:25:24 UTC from Nurb432

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Oh, and its pretty sad when i can say M$ is less restrictive...  



[#] Sat Nov 09 2024 21:43:31 UTC from Nurb432

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Ran off to verify with an Apple friend of mine ( well ex-apple, hes done ) says its almost like that now. You have to hop into command line and disable signing.   Something i bet most of their users cant figure out.



[#] Sat Nov 09 2024 22:26:32 UTC from darknetuser

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2024-11-09 21:06 from IGnatius T Foobar
Subject: Mac OS to ban unsigned apps?

Word on the street is that the next version of Mac OS is going to
prohibit the installation of any apps that are not signed by Apple.

This requires a developer license ($100/year) and having Apple gatekeep

everything you publish.

Are they going to get away with this? Or are they going to drive even

more users into the open arms of Linux?



They already do that with iOS and actually that caused the EU to force them to change their ways. I don't think the new policy is satisfactory at all but I think that answers your question.

I was reading in Linux Magazine that Mac OS is experiencing a significant reduction of market share. Meanwhile Linux from the desktop is gaining ground because developing nations in Asia are starting to adopt it in significant numbers. By that I mean numbers in the 10% level.

[#] Sat Nov 09 2024 22:36:48 UTC from Nurb432

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I see that with people i know personally that used to be fans of Apple. They are all getting sick of it and moving on. Hell even i was a fan before they started building the garden.  loved the PowerPC stuff. And things before that. ( even if they stole some of their ideas from Xerox and other companies over the years... )

 

I blame Steve Jobs for setting them on that path.

Sat Nov 09 2024 22:26:32 UTC from darknetuser Subject: Re: Mac OS to ban unsigned apps?

I was reading in Linux Magazine that Mac OS is experiencing a significant reduction of market share. 

 



[#] Tue Nov 12 2024 20:16:09 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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I was reading in Linux Magazine that Mac OS is experiencing a
significant reduction of market share. Meanwhile Linux from the desktop

is gaining ground because developing nations in Asia are starting to
adopt it in significant numbers. By that I mean numbers in the 10%
level.

I read recently that desktop Linux (real desktop Linux, not including android and chromebook) is just about at the point of crossing the 5% mark globally.
That is significant. 10% is where the avalanche effect kicks in, as CrT (!RIP) observed more than 20 years ago. He was wrong about the time frame but the actual events seem to hold.

What no longer applies is the idea that for [Apple, M$, etc] to win, everyone else must lose. We don't really live in that kind of world before, and the ubiquity of web applications means that most of the old rationales don't even matter anymore.

As I've been saying pretty much forever, the message to software vendors is clear: provide your technology on favorable terms or it will be replaced.
(Ok, I used to say "license your technology on favorable terms or it will be cloned" but this is more generalized.)

[#] Fri Nov 15 2024 10:37:03 UTC from darknetuser

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What no longer applies is the idea that for [Apple, M$, etc] to win,

everyone else must lose. We don't really live in that kind of world

before, and the ubiquity of web applications means that most of the old

rationales don't even matter anymore.


I agree that in the IT world bussiness has a tendency to improve as a block instead of a per-vendor basis.

I recently got my hands on a Steam Deck. For those who don't know, it is a x86_64 computer with gaming hardware, running Linux, in the form factor of a handheld console. The whole idea is Steam, the popular videogame store, sells it for cheap so people gets to buy and play more videogames.

This device is clearly intended to operate under a walled-garden model in which Steam if your provider of games. What the Steam people did very right is ensuring the garden is what you use by default, but it is eventually your computer so you can do as you please with it. It has stubs for setting your own package manager easily, stuff like that. And they even sent sample Decks to developers of third-party stores - which source the games from out of the Steam sphere. 

[#] Fri Nov 15 2024 13:41:22 UTC from Nurb432

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I might have agreed with that 20 years ago.

Now i think they are doing just the opposite of improvement. The entire IT industry *sucks* 

Fri Nov 15 2024 10:37:03 UTC from darknetuser Subject: Re: Mac OS to ban unsigned apps?

I agree that in the IT world bussiness has a tendency to improve as a block instead of a per-vendor basis.

 



[#] Thu Nov 21 2024 20:11:47 UTC from LoanShark

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Word on the street is that the next version of Mac OS is going to
prohibit the installation of any apps that are not signed by Apple.
This requires a developer license ($100/year) and having Apple gatekeep

everything you publish.

WTF, does this include `brew` etc?

[#] Thu Nov 21 2024 20:30:18 UTC from Nurb432

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My assumption is yes, even its packages.  Complete lock down.  

Thu Nov 21 2024 20:11:47 UTC from LoanShark Subject: Re: Mac OS to ban unsigned apps?
Word on the street is that the next version of Mac OS is going to
prohibit the installation of any apps that are not signed by Apple.
This requires a developer license ($100/year) and having Apple gatekeep

everything you publish.

WTF, does this include `brew` etc?

 



[#] Sat Nov 23 2024 15:55:11 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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WTF, does this include `brew` etc?

From what I have extracted there will still be a command you can run as superuser to get around it.  Sort of like putting your Android into developer mode, I guess?  So if that ends up being the case then it's the famous stance of "we'll let you get around this if you know what you're doing, but if you publish software and want regular people to install it, you'd better pay us, bitch."  Sort of like "Windows 10S" that could only install Store apps.

Macs are popular with developers.  I don't know how one can be expected to do software development on a locked down system.



[#] Sat Nov 23 2024 16:43:19 UTC from Nurb432

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That is sort of how it is now, you can run a command to run unsigned apps.. but i also heard that may go away too.  It will be *mandatory*

 

And they can still develop. as long as they don't even think of peering outside the garden.  Oh, and pay an extra fee to do so.


Sat Nov 23 2024 15:55:11 UTCfrom IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Mac OS to ban unsigned apps?
WTF, does this include `brew` etc?

From what I have extracted there will still be a command you can run as superuser to get around it.  Sort of like putting your Android into developer mode, I guess?  So if that ends up being the case then it's the famous stance of "we'll let you get around this if you know what you're doing, but if you publish software and want regular people to install it, you'd better pay us, bitch."  Sort of like "Windows 10S" that could only install Store apps.

Macs are popular with developers.  I don't know how one can be expected to do software development on a locked down system.



 



[#] Thu Dec 19 2024 18:11:08 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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So it has been confirmed, it isn't just my code malfunctioning, Mac OS Terminal does not honor the ANSI "save cursor position" and "restore cursor position" commands. I did a bit of searching and have found half a dozen other projects discovering the same problem. I will continue to solve this with a comment "do not enable this on a Mac".

Apparently it's been broken forever, Apple is aware of it and not interested in fixing it.

Linux and Windows (yes, Windows!) have open source terminal programs and people fix problems when they find it. Get with the program, Apple.

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