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[#] Sat Aug 31 2013 04:03:16 EDT from the_mgt

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I am still opting for ckeditor instead of tinymce, since it does the breaking of blockquotes better (that is, if we stop wrapping the blockquotes into extra divs...) 

[#] Mon Sep 02 2013 02:42:29 EDT from hamilton

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Unfortunately, neither tinymce nor ckeditor worked correctly through the native Android 2.2 browser.  Field entry in the cdeditor demo seemed ok, but full-screen editing in either browser did not trigger the pop-up keyboard, or permit editing.  The cdedtor 'behavior' demos were especially disappointing. In all cases, the entire demo screen (banners and content) simply did not display.

The Android 2.2 OS is listed as not supported in the contenteditable attribute list.  Perhaps it is time to look for a newer smartphone, although this model (LG-Optimus V) is still offered for sale as a new product by Virgin mobile.  I haven't tried the POP/SMTP email app yet, and due to the setup required, use of that resource is a bit more complicated for users, but perhaps that is the best workaround for now.

Appreciate the interest!


[#] Mon Sep 02 2013 02:57:21 EDT from hamilton

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FWIW, an app called DejaOffice works well on this phone. 

[#] Mon Sep 02 2013 05:27:49 EDT from dothebart

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or maybe put a cyanogen mod on it? I've seen it make elderly androids work smoother & faster with newer versions in several cases.

You don't have all the eyecandy bullshit anymore, but get a technicaly non-obsolete phone.

[#] Tue Sep 03 2013 07:54:54 EDT from dothebart

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howto bypass bulky upgrade processes of fragmented android in the market:


and... in other news, its finaly done. elop has put nokia into the shape to be sold to microsoft for a dime or two.

[#] Wed Sep 04 2013 08:44:59 EDT from dothebart

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[#] Wed Sep 04 2013 17:56:00 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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...and falling! Fun to watch.

[#] Thu Sep 05 2013 06:37:02 EDT from dothebart

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hm, child aware representation:


How's that map thing in to earn money on its own? since it doesn't now? Even Garmin starts to offer the use of OSM in its webapps nowadays, tomtom has troubles because of mobiles offering same services...

[#] Mon Sep 09 2013 15:46:37 EDT from the_mgt

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Before Elop, the cards were called OVI, they had just renamed the Nokia Suite to Ovi Suite (and the store and everything else) when Elop renamed it to HERE and ditched all the Ovi stuff. At least, that is a pretty good tactic to prevent it from not losing money.

[#] Mon Nov 18 2013 18:13:24 EST from the_mgt

Subject: HERE maps on Jolla, which is finally going to be unleashed soon

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Seems HERE (former Navteq btw) is here to stay... Nokia kept that section and they are now licensing that service to other mobile phone manufacturers. Among them is

And they are finally going to put that device on the market on November 27th in Helsinki. Can't wait to get mine.

Here are some more infos, since it seems that nobody here (at least in this room) cared to track them:

Hands on/Demo Videos:

Full specs:

And yes, it does run Android (tm) apps.


Greetings, your friendly ad-bot,

the_mgt ;)

[#] Mon Dec 16 2013 18:29:53 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Oh how lovely. The power button on my phone was stuck, and I broke it completely while trying to fix it.

[#] Sat Dec 21 2013 22:04:39 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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I got a new phone. Since I did not want any money going to Hitler$oft I didn't have a lot of choices. I got a Google branded phone, a Nexus 5. It is very light. The screen is clear and bright, and it was easy to root.

I always root so I can uninstall Gmail.

[#] Sun Dec 22 2013 07:18:27 EST from zooer

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What mail client do you use and why do you uninstall gmail? Google usually does no wrong at any point.

I am upset with my Samsung phone. Samsung has all their own versions of software and makes them system apps so
you can't uninstall them easily. One thing that drives me crazy is the home key has been assigned as a double
press hot key for Samsung's equivelent to Siri. (I think) I have no interest in this, when I want to get back to
the home screen I frequently press the home key twice. This brings up the disclaimer saying I have to accept
the terms of agreement to use this Siri type of program. I don't want to use it, I do not accept the terms of
agreement. According to the forums I can disable the home key option! GREAT! All is I have to do is accept
the terms of agreement and disable the option in the settings. WTF. In order to not use something you have to
use it.

[#] Sun Dec 22 2013 09:16:30 EST from dothebart

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installing cyanogen mod android seems to be a viable alternative for many phones...

how ever, its important how open the specs for the phone are, so they can compile own kernels.

it seems as if samsung is not all that good - at least the galaxy ace does work, but not well. it has not much internal flash, and without a new kernel, you're not able to install apps on the card...

without serious f*king with it, it seems the phone is unusable.

however, sony mobiles (oops?) do seem to be first class citizens here - all open - all spec available..

[#] Sun Dec 22 2013 15:54:51 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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I am using the mail client that came with the phone, pointed to both my personal and work email accounts. I don't have a problem wih Gmail other than
I just don't use it so I don't want a dedicated client for it taking up space on my phone.

I do have a folder on my personal email account that my gmail forwards to. It basically functions as an inbox for notifications on google services like youtube abnd g+ etc

[#] Fri Dec 27 2013 12:52:51 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Well after a few days I do have to say that Android 4.4 is totes amazeballs.
Thankfully the Nexus 5 is *not* larded up with manufacturer crapware or carrier crapware, so after rooting it I really didn't feel inclined to change the ROM to anything other than stock (after removing the few system apps I didn't want, like gmail).

I also discovered that T-Mobile has gone totally native IPv6 on their network for devices running Android 4.4 (and presumably higher, later on). When I'm on 4G (wifi shut off or out of range) the phone gets a native, globally routable IPv6 address, and an IPv4 address of that tunnels out a 4-to-6-to-4 NAT gateway somewhere on their network.

I'm guessing that's the future for all consumer grade Internet service.

[#] Fri Dec 27 2013 15:41:53 EST from Ladyhawke

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Can't believe IG just wrote "totes amazeballs"

[#] Sat Jan 04 2014 19:21:04 EST from the_mgt

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I do have my Jolla mobile phone now since xmas and I love the UI and the UX. This whole swipe gestures idea makes one-handed use a bliss, every part of the UI is designed to be useable while walking, for example. No tiny buttons to aim and sharpshoot, no nonsense. I also have a terminal, root access and a real linux running beneath. I can actually ssh over wifi to the device. By default, without "rooting".

I also do have an alien dalvik/android emulator which runs rather fine, only some minor crashes. My problem now is, although there are some nice apps, the overall uglyness and the clutter and the "creative" gestalt of all the different android apps make me want to puke. We have an ipad and an iphone here at home and the overall aesthetics are lightyears beyond everything android. I would have to burn out my eyes out if I ever were forced to using android all the time. I actually do not want to use those apps. Evernote and Zite are examples of how to make a nice looking android app, ElectroDroid is so helpful that I can excuse the looks. Everything else should start from scratch. 

[#] Tue Jan 07 2014 20:51:48 EST from vince-q

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We need and Android app for Citadel !!!

[#] Wed Jan 08 2014 08:31:50 EST from the_mgt

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I'd rather have Citadel support all the common connections, like CardDAV, CalDAV and ActiveSync, so it could be integrated with the mobile OS. Email already works on most mobiles. After that, there might be room for an app.

Of course, Webcit needs to be more mobile friendly, too. 

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