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[#] Wed Sep 04 2019 01:10:14 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Sure... in AD&D, they call them "cants," like a "thieves cant". Ingroup language. Both sides use it. Religious people do it too. I had a worker once who referred to God as "Heavenly Father." It was strange.

"When I feel challenged, I ask Heaveny Father for guidence, and Heavenly Father gives me direction. If I listen, I am usually rewarded."

Turns out this language is Mormonism. Jesus Christ, Mother of Mary...

[#] Wed Sep 04 2019 09:50:40 EDT from fleeb

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Probably not just Mormon, as I've heard it used by other Christians.

[#] Wed Sep 04 2019 22:11:03 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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It has to do with how it is used. Most "Christian" denominations will refer to "The Heavenly Father." It isn't used as a proper noun so much as a descriptive one. They'll call him God, the Lord, the Lord God, Jehovah, Yaweh... and "The Heavenly Father."

Mormons call him, "Heavenly Father," as a proper noun. Like, if they met Him, they would address Him that way. "Heavenly Father, I beseech you to have mercy on me!" I'm not quite getting it right here, but it is in the manner of speech in how they use it. If you hear a person say something like, "If I am in doubt, I ask Heavenly Father for guidence, and He grants it to me in His wisdom," you're not talking to a Catholic or a Protestant. We recognize it as something *different* than us, and they're using it that way for that reason. It is a special language that conveys in-group membership.

[#] Fri Sep 06 2019 10:09:31 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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That kind of usage is specifically a mormon thing. It's a slightly different take, because mormon is not mainline Christianity.

[#] Mon Sep 09 2019 01:26:13 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Fri Sep 06 2019 10:09:31 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
That kind of usage is specifically a mormon thing. It's a slightly different take, because mormon is not mainline Christianity.

Yup. It definitely conveys a different, more direct relationship with God Himself than say, a Protestant or Catholic would express. 

We would refer to the Lord... God... 

Jesus is kind of our go-between - as Protestants - and Mary, if you're a Catholic. But both kind of operate on an assumption that God is busy and although He doesn't miss *anything* - you better only invoke him personally if your car is about to go over a cliff. 

 

 

 



[#] Mon Sep 09 2019 10:53:04 EDT from LoanShark

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By which time it's probably too late.

[#] Wed Sep 25 2019 12:24:39 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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As long as you're alive, it's never too late to call on God. You may only have seconds to live, but that final moment of faith could have a significant effect on what happens next.

But you knew that.

[#] Mon Feb 17 2020 12:12:00 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Has anyone experience or thoughts on various password manager schemes


Funny that this was the inaugural message in this room in 2015, because I have the same question now.

I'm giving some consideration towards letting the browser generate and remember my passwords to various sites, instead of keeping track myself and letting the browser remember it merely as a convenience.

What's trustworthy these days? What's reliable? Sig, did you have any luck with the hardware token? Like most people these days, I'm using Chrome, but there's always the concern that anything tied to Google is problematic. Lastpass?
Keepass? Something else?

[#] Tue Feb 18 2020 08:49:50 EST from darknetuser

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I'm giving some consideration towards letting the browser generate and

remember my passwords to various sites, instead of keeping track myself

and letting the browser remember it merely as a convenience.

I would not let my web browser administrate my password.

For less important stuff, I have pass (I think it is packaged as password-store for debian), which is a CLI password manager. I have it on a self-hosted shell account. This way I can access my password manager from anywhere I have a secure terminal for sshing into my server.

The compromising stuff lives in a Tails intance and is stored in Keepassxc. So ti is encryted twice: once at filesystem level, anothe at application level.


The really important stuff I learn by heart. I have some of those passwords noted down in a notebook and stored in a safe just in case I am put to pressure one day and cannot remember a password.

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