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And to clarify, other than my 90% idea, i have no solution. Once the "wrong" people get involved, they will slowly infect and destroy even the best crafted system from within, and twist it to take advantage of it, and everyone around them. ( those are the people i dislike ) and i don't know how to stop that, since that is human nature.
Sun Dec 28 2025 15:51:53 UTC from Nurb432The system itself.
Sun Dec 28 2025 07:18:36 UTC from ParanoidDelusions
So the question becomes - who do you point the finger at?
Sun Dec 28 2025 12:24:20 UTC from PanaSonic
Every single room that you post in, no matter what the topic is, you turn the topic to how much praise you can heap on Trump.
NO MATTER THE TOPIC.
Come. On.
So he is the counter to Nurb ;)
I didn't see Nurb in 5 consecutive rooms, change the topic from something at least vaguely on topic, to "How Much I Love (something completely off topic)".
Now, back to Television :-D
Sun Dec 28 2025 17:38:27 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek
Sun Dec 28 2025 12:24:20 UTC from PanaSonic
Every single room that you post in, no matter what the topic is, you turn the topic to how much praise you can heap on Trump.
NO MATTER THE TOPIC.
Come. On.
So he is the counter to Nurb ;)
You're seeing things through YOUR biases, PanaSonic.
The post DIRECTLY preceding mine (in a room titled Politics, Propaganda, Paranoia) is pasted below:
I'd argue that Nurb432 has been on a bit of a rant against what you probably consider "MAGA" politics - and I've been therefore responding in kind with MY position.
That is how Citadel BBSes work, my friend. Nurb and I sparring back and forth, Ig sometimes jumping in, occasionally warning either one or the other or both of us if he feels it is not beneficial to the overall flow of his Citadel. Going on like that here for at least 4 years now, off and on again, when I get around to visiting.
One thing I hate is on open discussion forums, when someone steps in and goes, "I dislike that the open discussion keeps focusing on THIS."
I have "Goto"ed past several rooms on this visit - because I had nothing useful to contribute - but I didn't want you and Nurb or Ig or anyone else from using this online forum to discuss the topics THEY want to discuss.
When you start telling people what they CAN and can't discuss on a discussion based forum like Citadel - often what happens is that discussion simply DIES.
If you want a lot of discussion that you find consistently agreeable - X or Reddit or Bluesky are probably better choices.
Sun Dec 28 2025 12:24:20 UTC from PanaSonic> He speaks bluntly, frankly, and I think honestly. Everyone who has worked for any of his companies always seems to have great things to say about how he rewards meritocracy and doesn't pull punches about cutting the fat from the bone.
> He runs the country the same way he allegedly runs his businesses. Things aren't candy coated - and if people aren't delivering his goals - he doesn't seem to hesitate to remove them from their appointments.
Every single room that you post in, no matter what the topic is, you turn the topic to how much praise you can heap on Trump.
NO MATTER THE TOPIC.
Come. On.
Nailed it.
Sun Dec 28 2025 17:38:27 UTC from SouthernComputerGeek
Sun Dec 28 2025 12:24:20 UTC from PanaSonic
Every single room that you post in, no matter what the topic is, you turn the topic to how much praise you can heap on Trump.
NO MATTER THE TOPIC.
Come. On.
So he is the counter to Nurb ;)
They removed, at the very least, a Communist dictator from power. The expatriate refugees under asylum in the US (you know, the kind of people the Left says are being deported without trial by ICE,) are loudly celebrating this act. In that regard - you can be almost certain that the Left has lost another voting bloc that traditionally you would expect would be solidly reliable as BLUE voters.
And it seems mostly like it is all white liberals, many of them older white liberals - who are UPSET about this.
When is the Democrat Party just going to stop pretending it is about US Style Democracy and admit the goal is communism? It used to be plausible when people on the Left were indignant or acted like you were a goofball for accusing them of being communists - but the Left has reached this point where...
You've taken the side of Hamas and Palestine despite graphic video of female Israeli hostages in sweatpants with bloodstained bottoms being dragged from car to car during one of the worst Hamas atrocities of the last 50 years.
You've steadfastly insisted that Venezuelans in boats with 3 outboard motors filled with 55 gallon barrels are "fishing boats".
And now you're defending a literal communist dictator.
Scott Adams, who the Left thinks is a radical right wing Nazi - has taken a very measured approach to suggesting that bias colors how people perceive events largely influenced by their personal ideology. He used Hilary Clinton stumbling from a car a few years ago. If you were Right you reliably saw it as an aging, fragile, ill woman, possibly under the effects of a narcotic or alcohol. If you were Left - you saw it as that she was a little fatigued.
But increasingly - it is difficult to cut those on the Left any slack in this regard. You're ALWAYS on the wrong side. Right now - the one I'm seeing flood my feed is sympathy for the "officers who were victims of the Jan 6th insurrection."
If you remember, during the "Jan 6th Insurrection," most of the Left was in an orgy of ACAB protests.
NOW the Left cares about the cops? Sure they do.
Sun Jan 04 2026 01:22:29 UTC from ZoeGraystoneWhat took place in Venezuela was just plain wrong. We are supposed to be better than this.
Maduro is a socialist faggot who got what was coming to him. Now if only Trump would stop sucking up to Xi Jinping.
And it seems mostly like it is all white liberals, many of them
older white liberals - who are UPSET about this.
My son calls those people "sour cream"
And my experience matches yours. People who came here to escape communism (cuba, romania, etc) are hardcore anti-communists. Our leftoids don't know how the world works and they want communism.
We should be doing 1:1 exchanges. For every 1 person we bring in from a country where they want to escape communism, we send back one of our commies in their place.
I actually have a VERY RARE TAKE on the Venezuela thing. Want to hear it?
Here it is: I don't know enough about Venezuelan geopolitics to have an informed opinion.
2026-01-04 01:22 from ZoeGraystone
What took place in Venezuela was just plain wrong. We are
supposed to be better than this.
It was fucking glorious. I don't care if it is formally wrong, taking Maduro to G-bay and peeling him like a potato is absolutely the right thing to do and I could not care less as for who did it.
Here it is: I don't know enough about Venezuelan geopolitics to have
an informed opinion.
The only thing you need to know is Maduro is a successor to Chavez, except he is a worst manager and less charismatic, which has made many Venezuelans to realize he is not a good deal. His regime is the sort that wipes out Internet sites that don't suck up to the Dear Leader, meanwhile markets are empty and the most you can buy with a note of the highest denomination is a slice of fruit. The army has been seizing food from distributor's warehouses because, according to Maduro, the reason why there is no food in stores is because evil capitalists are producing it but not selling it in order to starve the country. What the army does is sell the seized food for a huge profit in the underground market btw, because that is what fascist communists do: make a profit out of the missery they created themselves.
Maduro is a Hitler level threat within his sphere of power. Would anybody have complained if Trump had removed Hitler from Germany right before the Munich accord?
Refreshing. Me too. I feel like our Uncensored Left leaning constituents are being unusually quiet on this topic. I wish they wouldn't be. It isn't that I enjoy the *fight* - but I enjoy being challenged in my biases.
I definitely want a Left willing to fight me. I think a unchecked RIGHT world is as bad as an unchecked LEFT world. We need the balance of both sides having reasoned debate to find a reasonable middle ground.
The Right COULD be wrong on this. If we destabilize a government in South America the way we have in Africa or the Middle East and the same kind of power vacuum creates an AMERICAN ISIS - we've got a problem.
The argument for Kaddafi and Saddam was basically "These parts of the world need a ruthless strongman willing to put down extremists who are a threat to their regime, and when you remove the strongman, those extremists thrive, and you get ISIS."
I think that is true. Neither of those would allow the Islamic extremists of ISIS to compromise their rule in Libya and Iraq. Once they were gone - the US didn't have the same kind of DGAF impunity to the world opinion to go, "We'll accuse you, convict you, and throw you off the top of a 7 story building, so you do not die IMMEDIATELY, but slowly and painfully." Saddam and Kaddafi had no problem with this.
And it kept their nations intact. And the same kind of rule applies in large parts of South America. Unless we want to turn it all into Phoenix, Arizona.
I actually have a VERY RARE TAKE on the Venezuela thing. Want to hear it?
Here it is: I don't know enough about Venezuelan geopolitics to have an informed opinion.