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2025-11-09 15:35 from Nurb432
"Devuan 6.0 “Excalibur” Released — Debian 13 without
systemd"
I was expecting this one. I don't think I am going to upgrade my production systems just yet, though XD.
As i was ranting above, so far, no upgrade i have done has worked ( on stock Debian ). Its all been reloads. Now, i don't pretend to be upgrading 100s of them and its been just a couple of attempts, but its not a good sign.
Sun Nov 09 2025 23:59:39 UTC from darknetuser2025-11-09 15:35 from Nurb432
"Devuan 6.0 “Excalibur” Released — Debian 13 without
systemd"
I was expecting this one. I don't think I am going to upgrade my production systems just yet, though XD.
As i was ranting above, so far, no upgrade i have done has
worked ( on stock Debian ). Its all been reloads. Now, i
Debian to Devuan, or Debian to newer Debian? I upgrade them all the time and it works pretty seamlessly.
To go to a different distribution though, I do find it's more reliable to just boot from the installer, mount root, delete everything except /home (and maybe /opt and /usr/local if you have anything there) and then proceed with the installation. I just did that over the weekend, in fact.
To go to a different distribution though, I do find it's more reliable
to just boot from the installer, mount root, delete everything except
/home (and maybe /opt and /usr/local if you have anything there) and
then proceed with the installation. I just did that over the weekend,
in fact.
To be honest, if you are working with OS images you are probably better just creating new OS images and redeploying them, specially if you have some no-thinking-involved initialization tool. I am a dinosaur so I go the traditional route, though.
And yeah, I use Devuan at work when Linux is needed, so it would be a Devuan->Devuan upgrade. I have a Debian machine somewhere for some applications that would be too much hassle to port over, though. That said, most of what is not a workstation around here runs BSD.
It was Bookworm to Trixie. Yes, its always done fine in the past. But not this time. Any attempt.
Saving home would have been fine for the laptop it ate. But i had nothign there any way of valiue, so a reload fixed it.
The server, home was the least of my concerns it was drivers, CUDA, dev tools, bla bla. I gave up and redid it with bookworm. Now its fine, which is the version it will most likely stay on the rest of its life. Goig from buster to bookworm was also a bit of a pain. Some of the components were not there yet, even tho it was in release mode, not testing. But they were in sid ( trixie ) so i did that and left it be until release ( something like 2 years ). But when trixie finally came out, some were removed, and other things broke, like the laptop. ***ers. Sure a reload would have made it 'work', but not for me, i need that NVIDIA crap working or its a boat anchor and might as well toss it in the river.
Mon Nov 10 2025 18:22:19 UTC from IGnatius T FoobarAs i was ranting above, so far, no upgrade i have done has
worked ( on stock Debian ). Its all been reloads. Now, i
Debian to Devuan, or Debian to newer Debian? I upgrade them all the time and it works pretty seamlessly.
To go to a different distribution though, I do find it's more reliable to just boot from the installer, mount root, delete everything except /home (and maybe /opt and /usr/local if you have anything there) and then proceed with the installation. I just did that over the weekend, in fact.