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Sat Apr 18 2026 01:04:00 UTC from LoanShark
WHAT KIND OF DEBBIE-DOWNER ARE YOU, IG? WHAT KIND OF DEBBIE-DOWNER ARE YOU?
WHAT KIND OF DEBBIE-DOWNER ARE YOU, IG? WHAT KIND OF DEBBIE-DOWNER ARE
YOU?
Debbie is dead. She was our office manager from the time I joined the company in 2001 until she died of cancer in the mid 2010s. Quite a shame, too: she left the company because she found her soulmate and got married, and moved to south NJ with him. She finally was living the dream. And then she died.
True story. Down yet?
Debbie is dead. She was our office manager from the time I joined the
company in 2001 until she died of cancer in the mid 2010s. Quite a
shame, too: she left the company because she found her soulmate and got
married, and moved to south NJ with him. She finally was living the
dream. And then she died.
True story. Down yet?
Not really.
Ouch root access exploit, and seems that nearly all kernels are subject to it unless patched. Not sure what about older distros, i did see a possible mitigation, but donno if its viable or not.
rmmod algif_aead 2>/dev/null || true
then
echo “blacklist algif_aead” > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-algif.conf
FWIW.. I'm not sure who I hate more... Linux acolytes, or liberals.
Liberal Linux acolytes? I guess if I had to pick my ultimate full retards to hate on - that might be it. RTFM? Just tell me how to do what I don't know how to do without gatekeeping by telling me to RTFM...
I know you KNOW what I'm asking help for - and you're being difficult because you "want me to learn," rather than having the answer spoon fed to me....
But I learn best on the Gerber Baby Food method of IT instruction.
That really *is* a thing. And you Linux geeks are kinda dicks about that. I learned. I'd come here, I'd ask... in rambling posts - you wouldn't help much... I'd go back in pure spite and figure it out, and then you would all go, "see, it wasn't that hard, was it, PD?"
Why are *nix people like this? Serious question? For a little brief moment I was kinda the king of getting Citadel running on the WORST systems to try and run it on... Debian Linux on a Pi3 wth a full desktop... and you guys were all, "You shouldn't do it that way."
Yeah - but... I *did*. For quite a while. I only got hacked when I stopped logging in because no one would log in for 3 to 5 weeks at a time. Until then, I was on top of it.
On Linux. On Debian. As a Windows geek.
Linux guys do totally gatekeep. FWIW - Ig did totally point me in every direction to make me run a pirate, public hosted, Cox Network Citadel out of my home on i5 Nucs from an Arab tunneled IP hosted site. I'm probably on an FBI watchlist because of that. Worth it. ;)
You are an American. You are by default, just by existing.
And the poor community ( in general, not everyone of course ) is why i went to BSD back in the old days ( all the way back to the first public release after the lawsuit ) . It started out ok, then went south.. "screw this" And as mentioned a few times the only reason i came back was due to drivers and such, else id still be in that camp.
Thu May 07 2026 03:13:40 EDT from ParanoidDelusionsI'm probably on an FBI watchlist because of that. Worth it. ;)
....and since that was poorly written ( pun totally intended ) .... i meant poor as in behavior, not financial.
Why are *nix people like this? Serious question? For a little brief
You get what you pay for.
There are simply too many low effort questions out there to tackle them all. At some point you (as someone with the answers) have to learn to manage your own time. Hell, even at my day job where I am paid, I've had to learn to be careful about what I respond to and how quickly. Most people out there are simply time vampires who will suck you dry if you let them.
Why are *nix people like this? Serious question? For a little brief moment I was kinda the king of getting Citadel running on the WORST systems to try and run it on... Debian Linux on a Pi3 wth a full desktop... and you guys were all, "You shouldn't do it that way."
Linux guys do totally gatekeep.
If you're just venting, that's ok, go ahead and do it, but this question actually does have an answer.
From "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way" :
The first thing to understand is that hackers actually like hard problems and good, thought-provoking questions about them. If we didn't, we wouldn't be here. If you give us an interesting question to chew on we'll be grateful to you; good questions are a stimulus and a gift. Good questions help us develop our understanding, and often reveal problems we might not have noticed or thought about otherwise. Among hackers, “Good question!” is a strong and sincere compliment.
Despite this, hackers have a reputation for meeting simple questions with what looks like hostility or arrogance. It sometimes looks like we're reflexively rude to newbies and the ignorant. But this isn't really true.
What we are, unapologetically, is hostile to people who seem to be unwilling to think or to do their own homework before asking questions. People like that are time sinks — they take without giving back, and they waste time we could have spent on another question more interesting and another person more worthy of an answer. We call people like this “losers” (and for historical reasons we sometimes spell it “lusers”).
We realize that there are many people who just want to use the software we write, and who have no interest in learning technical details. For most people, a computer is merely a tool, a means to an end; they have more important things to do and lives to live. We acknowledge that, and don't expect everyone to take an interest in the technical matters that fascinate us. Nevertheless, our style of answering questions is tuned for people who do take such an interest and are willing to be active participants in problem-solving. That's not going to change. Nor should it; if it did, we would become less effective at the things we do best.
We're (largely) volunteers. We take time out of busy lives to answer questions, and at times we're overwhelmed with them. So we filter ruthlessly. In particular, we throw away questions from people who appear to be losers in order to spend our question-answering time more efficiently, on winners.
If you find this attitude obnoxious, condescending, or arrogant, check your assumptions. We're not asking you to genuflect to us — in fact, most of us would love nothing more than to deal with you as an equal and welcome you into our culture, if you put in the effort required to make that possible. But it's simply not efficient for us to try to help people who are not willing to help themselves. It's OK to be ignorant; it's not OK to play stupid.
So, while it isn't necessary to already be technically competent to get attention from us, it is necessary to demonstrate the kind of attitude that leads to competence — alert, thoughtful, observant, willing to be an active partner in developing a solution. If you can't live with this sort of discrimination, we suggest you pay somebody for a commercial support contract instead of asking hackers to personally donate help to you.
If you decide to come to us for help, you don't want to be one of the losers. You don't want to seem like one, either. The best way to get a rapid and responsive answer is to ask it like a person with smarts, confidence, and clues who just happens to need help on one particular problem.
That may not be the answer you were hoping for, but it's true a lot of the time. It's an artifact of the culture that Linux emerged from.
FWIW - Ig did totally point me in every direction to make me run a pirate, public hosted, Cox Network Citadel out of my home on i5 Nucs from an Arab tunneled IP hosted site. I'm probably on an FBI watchlist because of that. Worth it. ;)
It was a pleasure helping you with that. I don't think the tunnel went through any Arabic regions, but who knows? :)
By the way, I switched away from that service last year when they stopped supporting IPv6. I need my IPv6. Now I'm tunneling to a cheap VPS and getting much more speed and still spending a bit less. Share and Enjoy.
I used to have a friend who said, "Linux is only as free as your time, and time is money."
I liked that. He has now been sucked into the cult and drank the koolaid.
It is just another OS and another tool, to me. When it is appropriate - I'll use it. I keep considering using it as my daily driver - and keep finding reasons why it isn't worth my time or money.
Fri May 08 2026 09:34:05 EDT from zelgomerWhy are *nix people like this? Serious question? For a little brief
You get what you pay for.
There are simply too many low effort questions out there to tackle them all. At some point you (as someone with the answers) have to learn to manage your own time. Hell, even at my day job where I am paid, I've had to learn to be careful about what I respond to and how quickly. Most people out there are simply time vampires who will suck you dry if you let them.
Yeesh ... can't believe I posted from HTAQTSW mere days before my patience for Meghan Markle, oops I mean Eric S. Raymond, as if there were a difference, finally ran out.
Someone just uploaded an unknown binary to the FreeBSD ports source tree. Entire repo is locked down while they mitigate.
Nothing is safe anymore.
:'D
Thu Jul 23 2026 12:20:20 EDT from Nurb432Someone just uploaded an unknown binary to the FreeBSD ports source tree. Entire repo is locked down while they mitigate.
Nothing is safe anymore.
I wonder if it's time to rethink again? Most computers are fast enough now that it's possible for most users to compile at install time.
Yes, I know, Gentoo stage 1 and all that. I don't use Arch btw.
But we've spent so much time perfecting JIT compilers, and the computers are stupid fast, maybe it makes sense to just abandon the idea of binary objects for most paths.
Donno. I build Armbian from scratch at times, and not even all the bells and whistles like a GUI. ( esoteric hardware needs ) and it takes a while even on one my Xeons. Most people just want 'push and go'. Might turn people way from the OSS OS movement, if it was forced.
Mon Aug 03 2026 10:21:06 EDT from IGnatius T FoobarI wonder if it's time to rethink again? Most computers are fast enough now that it's possible for most users to compile at install time.
Yes, I know, Gentoo stage 1 and all that. I don't use Arch btw.
But we've spent so much time perfecting JIT compilers, and the computers are stupid fast, maybe it makes sense to just abandon the idea of binary objects for most paths.
I wonder if it's time to rethink again? Most computers are
fast enough now that it's possible for most users to compile at
install time.
I could see something like NIX or GUIX being used to great advantage here.
Both are much easier to manage than Gentoo or Arch, reproducible builds are lovely, and it's easy enough to disable the fetch-a-binary-if-one-is-available feature.
It becomes a question of who to trust. In most cases I trust a binary built by Debian more than I would a source tarball or a git checkout. Is the NIX project trustable? What about GNU? I'm sure there are vulnerabilties running around in all of these things, 99% from oversight, but what about that 1% that is intentional?
When someone comes up with a better paradigm for how I can trust the machine, how the machine can trust me, and we both can trust what's running and what's coming over the network, then maybe will have something. Until then it's a crapshoot.
Dont hold your breath on that one. Personally, unless i build the hardware ( down to the CPU level even ) and write the OS and all apps, AND disconnect from the wire .. id never trust it 100%.
"Trust" is just built-in to the concept of technology.
BUT i do think you can mitigate it quite a bit by picking 'lesser' concerns.. and get to where its not an eminent danger. But yes, even having full source would not do it magically, as who can read that? ( or follow it.. so many people contribute, all with different mindsets and methods.. )
When someone comes up with a better paradigm for how I can trust the machine, how the machine can trust me, and we both can trust what's running and what's coming over the network, then maybe will have something. Until then it's a crapshoot.