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[#] Mon Sep 21 2020 18:58:53 EDT from darknetuser

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2020-09-19 05:37 from zooer
It bothers me how often I go into a medical facility and people are

not following proper mask protocol.  I was in a doctor's office
yesterday, none of the PA or nurses were wearing masks.  This wasn't

a private closed off room, this was a hallway with a desk that ran

along the wall, medical equipment on the desk and cabinets on the
walls. 

 


Nothing new. It is everywhere.

It is like IT security. People can pretend to follow security procedures but by the third day everybody is partaking in protocol violations. Masks left home. Passwords in posits placed by the keyboard.

Protocols getting raped so hard they are pregnant now.

[#] Wed Sep 23 2020 09:03:51 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Protocols getting raped so hard they are pregnant now.

Colorful metaphor of the day

[#] Fri Oct 02 2020 06:52:29 EDT from zooer

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Coronavirus vaccine trial participants report day-long exhaustion, fever and headaches 

KEY POINTS:
High fever, body aches, headaches and exhaustion are some of the symptoms participants in Moderna and Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine trials say they felt after receiving the shots.
While the symptoms were uncomfortable, and at times intense, they often went away after a day, sometimes less.
The phase three trials are a critical last step needed to get the vaccines cleared for distribution.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/01/coronavirus-vaccine-trial-participants-exhaustion-fever-headaches.html



[#] Fri Oct 02 2020 10:09:01 EDT from LoanShark

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dear god, yes, it's designed to provoke an immune response. that's the sort of thing you might expect, and it sounds mild compared to the actual lingering autoimmune problems that I've been experiencing on and off as a result of actual sars-cov-2 infection. the biggest issue with the virus is that your immune system may overreact to it.

The antibodies/response to this virus may be problematic in some cases - there is no getting around that. I would rather get my problematic antibodies from a mostly harmless vaccine than from live virus. It was a living nightmare for me, I absolutely compare it to Night of the Living Dead.

[#] Sun Oct 04 2020 22:14:21 EDT from LoanShark

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I'll make a prediction: Trump is going to recover, possibly because of the Regeneron experimental antibody cocktail that he's receiving.

(Of course there is a nonzero chance that said cocktails kills him via antibody-dependent enhancement, but if you can believe Regeneron's press release, the results have been very promising so far.)

The issue with treatments like this is probably going to be scaling up manufacturing to produce enough for everyone who might need them. If I understand correctly, these are several monoclonal (is that the same thing as polyclonal?) antibodies, produced via a biological process.

[#] Thu Oct 08 2020 14:36:14 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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It never sounded like he had a particularly bad case, despite the media reports to the contrary.

[#] Thu Oct 08 2020 17:28:34 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Isn't that what's happening in general now?  I feel as if the Really Bad Cases (tm) were common at the beginning, people getting really weak and having trouble breathing and being put on ventilators and more of them dying.  From mid summer on, everyone I've heard about who has caught the virus has either had mild or flu-like symptoms.  

I am completely aware that it could just be a coincidence about the cases I'm hearing about and the cases I'm not hearing about.  On the other hand, Epidemiology 101 teaches that viruses *do* get weaker, possibly because the deadliest strains tend to kill people before they can spread.

We should probably disregard the President's case because he has access to a completely different caliber of treatment than the rest of us do.  There are optics involved, of course, but that's a discussion of politics rather than epidemiology.



[#] Thu Oct 08 2020 17:35:35 EDT from LoanShark

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I am completely aware that it could just be a coincidence about the
cases I'm hearing about and the cases I'm not hearing about.  On the
other hand, Epidemiology 101 teaches that viruses *do* get weaker,
possibly because the deadliest strains tend to kill people before
they can spread.

No dude, just no.

Ep101 teaches us that that happens... but it takes generations of co-evolution.

We will build up immunity, but that's not the same thing. And the death counts are still very bad.

[#] Sun Oct 11 2020 11:49:25 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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I think we've learned a lot about treatment. They're keeping people off of ventilators as much as possible. They're doing better at isolating the most vulnerable populations. I think they're also recognizing cytokine storms and using IL-6 inhibitors and steroids quickly.


[#] Tue Oct 13 2020 11:21:54 EDT from zooer

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Johnson & Johnson Temporarily Pauses All Dosing in Our Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine Candidate Clinical Trials
https://www.jnj.com/our-company/johnson-johnson-temporarily-pauses-all-dosing-in-our-janssen-covid-19-vaccine-candidate-clinical-trials

 

Fri Oct 02 2020 10:09:01 AM EDT from LoanShark
dear god, yes,

"Dear god NO"



[#] Wed Oct 14 2020 10:34:14 EDT from LoanShark

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this is not even news. trial pauses are routine occurrences.

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