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[#] Sat Jul 06 2024 08:25:20 EDT from Nurb432

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lol

Fri Jul 05 2024 21:16:24 EDT from zelgomer
Well this room has been quite a ride. Now if you'll all excuse me, I will be spending my Friday evening enjoying some lucious "free speech."

 



[#] Thu Jul 11 2024 08:57:06 EDT from nonservator

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Back in 1940, while the Hitler/Stalin alliance was still flourishing, Dalton Trumbo wrote an anti-war play to encourage the US to stay out of WWII. Once the alliance was broken, and the “Help!” signal went out from Moscow, Trumbo stopped printing the play and did everything he could to get the existing copies pulped. A few years later, a couple of anti-war protesters who didn’t know the story behind this wrote to Trumbo to ask where they could find a copy of the play. His response to these people who just wanted to read his words and express their beliefs? He reported them to the FBI as likely Nazi sympathizers.

Now, to be fair, Trumbo did later say that he regretted this, but also to be fair, reading his rationale makes it sound like he regrets it less because he realized that persecuting people for wanting a play was wrong and more because it drew the FBI’s attention to him. After all, the feds seemed less interesting in arresting these alleged Nazis than they did in why Trumbo would have written this play and then almost immediately done everything possible to suppress it. If the FBI would have just tossed those two guys in the gulag, he’d have been fine with that.

 



[#] Mon Jul 15 2024 07:51:47 EDT from darknetuser

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2024-07-05 15:51 from Nurb432
Not sure what i said would imply that.  But to be clear, i do think
we were far more free in the beginning, and slowly over the
generations that has been eroded, for a variety of reasons and a
number ways. Was it ever perfect? No, of course not, and there were
things that needed fixing. Nothing ever is perfect, but restricting
freedoms based on some stupid opinion is never the answer.  More
freedom, for everyone, is always the answer.

Not surprised tho about the mushroom comment. Figured you were
against that too. Um, am I even allowed to discuss psychedelic drugs,
or is that also banned speech in your world, since im sure it
violates your concept of offensive?


[#] Mon Jul 15 2024 07:54:10 EDT from darknetuser

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Not surprised tho about the mushroom comment. Figured you were
against that too. Um, am I even allowed to discuss psychedelic drugs,
or is that also banned speech in your world, since im sure it
violates your concept of offensive?

I was about to say "I guess early 20th Century America was fine, as long as you ignored the prohibition."

[#] Mon Jul 15 2024 07:57:28 EDT from darknetuser

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2024-07-05 16:06 from SouthernComputerGeek
No, you are a Democrat pretending to be a Republican.

You are very bad at trolling. Try better next time. We are veteran Internet settlers.

[#] Mon Jul 15 2024 08:03:17 EDT from Nurb432

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And other restrictions, such as on the 2A...   Can we say NFA anyone?  Oh and the racist bias in things like the NFA.  And a host of others....  Expansion of executive branch powers..  Oppressive "police actions" ( ie freaking wars )  bla bla bla

"fine" is all about which side you were on at any given moment in time. But few people who think they are better than others realize this.

Mon Jul 15 2024 07:54:10 EDT from darknetuser
Not surprised tho about the mushroom comment. Figured you were
against that too. Um, am I even allowed to discuss psychedelic drugs,
or is that also banned speech in your world, since im sure it
violates your concept of offensive?

I was about to say "I guess early 20th Century America was fine, as long as you ignored the prohibition."

 



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