i left out the precursor to IRC. I think it was called vax-chat at the time, and mostly locals, but it slowly became IRC in the end as tech advanced, so its sort of academic.
It is the second post on that node, by author whizkid. It challenges
the conventional wisdom that the decline of the BBS in the late 90s was
directly attributable to the proliferation of cheap dialup internet
access around the same period.
That's a common observation. I'll go as far as to agree that cheap Internet killed *dialup* BBS's, for sure. This one was attached to the Internet in 1996, after which we had some of the busiest years ever.
I believe that the biggest blow to "real" online communities was dealt by Facebook. A lot of people eventually decided that Facebook was the only "BBS" they needed, because "everyone" was there. Building on your echomail observation -- when long distance phone calls were no longer an issue, and every BBS on the Internet was multiuser, you no longer needed to find one "near you". So it reduced the number of sites that were needed. Facebook then further reduced it to "only one".
So it has come to pass that sites like this one are populated by people who are not enamored by the brainless roar of mainstream big tech sites.
by Facebook. A lot of people eventually decided that Facebook was the
only "BBS" they needed, because "everyone" was there. Building on your
I know you're right but this is just a reminder that something is wrong with me. I was actually the intended target demographic when facebook launched: college freshman looking looking to stay in contact with high school pals. I was on Facebook for about a month, and then when I realized "everyone" was there I said nope to that shit and never looked back.
I always pictured FB adsorbing new people that were not around for BBSs or CompuServe.. As more people came on line, it was 'the thing'.
FB does that.
2022-10-04 22:32 from zelgomerby Facebook. A lot of people eventually decided that Facebook was
theonly "BBS" they needed, because "everyone" was there. Building on
your
I know you're right but this is just a reminder that something is
wrong with me. I was actually the intended target demographic when
facebook launched: college freshman looking looking to stay in contact
with high school pals. I was on Facebook for about a month, and then
when I realized "everyone" was there I said nope to that shit and never
looked back.
That is not a sign of something being wrong with you. That is a sign of something being right with you.
I remember managing a business account in Facebook. It was a timesink that barely gave any returns. Facebook has this reputation of being the place you need to be in if you want to talk to people or make money, but my experience is that such thing is far from true.
I was actually the intended target demographic when
facebook launched: college freshman looking looking to stay in contact
with high school pals.
That came later. The original demographic for Facebook was college creeps like Zuckerberg looking to score with co-eds on campus.
Harvard used to distribute a student directory with names and photos of all the students. It was casually referred to as "the facebook". It was used by the cringe crowd to identify potential conquests.
LoL sort of what a lot of IRC was about back in the early 90s: Everyone in their mid-late 20s going to drinking parties and getting laid.
( tho to be fair, that is a lot like BBS parties around here before that...)
Wed Oct 19 2022 09:18:31 AM EDT from IGnatius T FoobarThat came later. The original demographic for Facebook was college creeps like Zuckerberg looking to score with co-eds on campus.
2022-10-19 22:10 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
LoL sort of what a lot of IRC was about back in the early 90s:
Everyone in their mid-late 20s going to drinking parties and getting
laid.
Honest question. Who the hell was getting laid with irc? I legitimately have encountered maybe 10 females in my entire time on the internet, and most have those were on AOL. And they have typically been completely unapproachable because there are 20 other dudes trying to internet date them.
2022-10-20 21:11 from zelgomer2022-10-19 22:10 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
LoL sort of what a lot of IRC was about back in the early 90s:
Everyone in their mid-late 20s going to drinking parties and getting
laid.
Honest question. Who the hell was getting laid with irc? I
legitimately have encountered maybe 10 females in my entire time on the
internet, and most have those were on AOL. And they have typically been
completely unapproachable because there are 20 other dudes trying to
internet date them.
I was thinking something similar. The whole deal of Internet dating is too far fetched on regular sites already, so I can't imagine how unrealistic it might be on an underground platform such as IRC.
Stupid as it sounds, I once fell in love with an IRC gal. The main problem was, however, than in a place such as IRC it is impossible to tell if that gal was actually a fat guy called Ivan who worked for the FSB.
In the mid 90s, everyone, at least around here. Current wife came from there actually.
It was not a "internet dating thing" . We all just went to parties and met each other in person that way. And once we all became real life friends, well, things happen and everyone was running in the same circles so stuff happened..
Thu Oct 20 2022 09:11:35 PM EDT from zelgomer2022-10-19 22:10 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
LoL sort of what a lot of IRC was about back in the early 90s:
Everyone in their mid-late 20s going to drinking parties and getting
laid.
Honest question. Who the hell was getting laid with irc? I legitimately have encountered maybe 10 females in my entire time on the internet, and most have those were on AOL. And they have typically been completely unapproachable because there are 20 other dudes trying to internet date them.
2022-10-21 21:22 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
In the mid 90s, everyone, at least around here. Current wife came
from there actually.
It was not a "internet dating thing" . We all just went to parties
and met each other in person that way. And once we all became real
life friends, well, things happen and everyone was running in the
same circles so stuff happened..
The internet dating remark was meant as more of an accusatory description of the behavior of the other guys. But my point is that you must have been on a different internet than I was in the 90s. I was a sausage fest. In fact, that pretty much describes most of my life. There were very few girls at my university, and where I work. Where the hell are all of the chicks in my age group? Probably baristas or on TikTok, I guess.
must have been on a different internet than I was in the 90s. I was a
sausage fest. In fact, that pretty much describes most of my life.
IT. IT was a sausage fest, not "I". I've only got the one. It may be just slighty below average, but it's mine, and so it's my favorite one.
But the chances of anyone she met being within meetup range were slim to none.
There's some nostalgia for you. Computer labs. Do they still have those at university campuses, when everyone has a laptop?
I guess my area was unique then, as it was split about 50/50 at the parties, well perhaps 49/49 as there were a few in the middle too, but it was not lopsided at all..
But really it was the meeting of friends and branching out from there that did it i think. Few went into the thing with intent other than to hang out with locals at the parties and babble away during lunch breaks and in the evening on line.
Not sure about being in use much or the same size, but the local college here does.
Early 90s our local college served as an access point for me, id drag in a box of floppies at 3am on weekends to download the latest SLS Linux, or other stuff.. Sure i had dial-up SLIP at home, but it would take days and days to download 30 floppies worth. One evening in town, id get them all. Once CDs started coming out and you could buy site-dumps from infomagic at the local 'shareware store', the trips stopped. ( ya we had a store that sold shareware.. another lost bit of history )
I didnt have classes there as i was long out of school, but a friend did, and he would come with me in case we got carded. Never did. A far different and safer world back then than it is now. Sad really.
Sat Oct 22 2022 11:49:00 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
There's some nostalgia for you. Computer labs. Do they still have those at university campuses, when everyone has a laptop?
2022-10-21 21:48 from zelgomer2022-10-21 21:22 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
In the mid 90s, everyone, at least around here. Current wife came
from there actually.
It was not a "internet dating thing" . We all just went to parties
and met each other in person that way. And once we all became real
life friends, well, things happen and everyone was running in the
same circles so stuff happened..
The internet dating remark was meant as more of an accusatory
description of the behavior of the other guys. But my point is that you
must have been on a different internet than I was in the 90s. I was a
sausage fest. In fact, that pretty much describes most of my life.I work. Where the
There were very few girls at my university, and where
hell are all of the chicks in my age group? Probably baristas or on
TikTok, I guess.
I learnt to cook, therefore rendering women obsolete. I have not bothered looking for gals ever since.
My set of hobbies and jobs is pretty much for sausage bearers only, but I am sure as heck I am not switching hobbies to get a girl. If you want to feel loved, get a horse.
2022-10-22 11:49 from IGnatius T Foobar
I was in college 1988-1993 and had a female friend who loved to go to
the computer lab to chat with random people on IRC. She absolutely
loved it.
But the chances of anyone she met being within meetup range were slim
to none.
There's some nostalgia for you. Computer labs. Do they still have
those at university campuses, when everyone has a laptop?
Yes, usually when the professor needs to provide a standard platform for the students and trying to get the students to run a set of application in their own gear is more troublesome than having a computer lab.
Kids today cannot install QT Creator. They cannot install a container image or virtual machine image with a QT Creator pre-arranged for them either. Not to mention many departments cannot set a ready for deployment image to begin with. Getting a bunch of used computers and installing junk on them is just easier and probably more cost effective than trying to herd the students and teachers.
Then we all wonder why the West is dying \o/