That basically confirms most of my experiences with Proxmox - where
it is superior and where it still lags behind. Mostly network
configuration. For being a "Networking OS" - Linux as a whole takes
some fairly bone-headed approaches to Networking configuration. If
Have you ever built a non-trivial environment with VMware? Unless you're running a single host on a single VLAN, it isn't exactly a walk in the park.
Their "distributed virtual switch" is confusing *and* opaque. And that's coming from me, a VCP-NV (Vmware Certified Professional specializing in Network Virtualization).
But the worst of the worst is Hyper-V. Yes, there are people out there who actually run that shit. Everyone who has tried it agrees that its networking model is completely brain damaged.
I have run ProxMox VE in the past. It's good software. You know why I don't run it on my own servers anymore? Because once you know how to configure and operate the underlying technologies, ProxMox just gets in the way. You don't need the crutches anymore.
Unsure at the moment.
Seems to be improving, but could go south at any moment.
Sat May 01 2021 10:28:48 AM EDT from ParanoidDelusionsI missed that your wife is in the hospital. Is she OK?
It didnt seem that bad when i was still doing it for the office, perhaps 1000vms, 50hosts. At least nothing stands out from my memory as being a pita other than we had no automation yet, for things like snapshots. So a lot of busy work
Those numbers could be a bit off, its been a while. But i really dont remember any major painpints.
Sun May 02 2021 03:07:50 PM EDT from IGnatius T FoobarThat basically confirms most of my experiences with Proxmox - where
it is superior and where it still lags behind. Mostly network
configuration. For being a "Networking OS" - Linux as a whole takes
some fairly bone-headed approaches to Networking configuration. If
Have you ever built a non-trivial environment with VMware? Unless you're running a single host on a single VLAN, it isn't exactly a walk in the park.
Their "distributed virtual switch" is confusing *and* opaque. And that's coming from me, a VCP-NV (Vmware Certified Professional specializing in Network Virtualization).
But the worst of the worst is Hyper-V. Yes, there are people out there who actually run that shit. Everyone who has tried it agrees that its networking model is completely brain damaged.
I have run ProxMox VE in the past. It's good software. You know why I don't run it on my own servers anymore? Because once you know how to configure and operate the underlying technologies, ProxMox just gets in the way. You don't need the crutches anymore.
I'm sorry to hear this. I hope she recovers soon and fully.
Sun May 02 2021 17:27:30 EDT from Nurb432Unsure at the moment.
Seems to be improving, but could go south at any moment.
Sat May 01 2021 10:28:48 AM EDT from ParanoidDelusionsI missed that your wife is in the hospital. Is she OK?
I think we got lucky, if she had waited another day to go see her GP, most likely would have been too severe to 'fix'. He thought it was a a gallstone, 'go to ER before it busts" . Was far more serious.
Blood infection. Low pressure, sepsis.. Most likely will spend this week there.
😲
I had a double hernia a couple of years back - and I was struck by the fact that if I didn't live in relatively modern times - the odds were that this would have been the end of me sooner rather than later.
It was kind of my first acknowledgement of imminent mortality as an adult hitting his autumn years. It was sobering. I'm glad you guys caught it before it got any worse.
Sun May 02 2021 19:15:52 EDT from Nurb432I think we got lucky, if she had waited another day to go see her GP, most likely would have been too severe to 'fix'. He thought it was a a gallstone, 'go to ER before it busts" . Was far more serious.
Blood infection. Low pressure, sepsis.. Most likely will spend this week there.
So... I've been going at this like a mad-dog - every step forward there is some new obstacle. Got the second NAS built, and made a backup of production to it. Then got another 1TB SSD for the backup NUC and set up Proxmox, and set up the SAN so I could attach to it from there to restore... but I built the backup Proxmox Node on my internal network, and there is a hop between it to a different subnet - and it didn't like that for authentication. So, I thought, "I'll just plug the backup node into the same network as the production one..." except, I've consumed all the ports on that subnet, and didn't want to plug in a switch there...
So, I opened up the production NAS to allow me to view and copy files and did the same to my internal NAS, created an NFS on the internal NAS (which is on the same subnet as the backup node) and copied the entire file structure from prod NAS to internal NAS. Then attached the backup node to the internal NAS, and restored it.
A couple more hiccups (it wasn't starting after restoring it because the network interface was named differently... little tweaks I had to make between the prod and test/backup proxmox nodes) - and it is up and running...
Which means I can now earnestly start backing up, and restoring my production server in a test environment where I can then run the appimage builds on it and be a useful contribution to that project.
I've made huge progress in getting this far more robust and recoverable in the last couple of weeks - especially for someone who kind of ditched the industry right as VM Hypervisors were really catching on in the industry.
So... I've been excited and wanted to share this all day long - but I wanted to make sure I had it dialed in. I'm now sure I do. Let me know what kind of x64 testing Citadel needs, and I'll be able to do it against a test copy of my production server within half an hour max.
I'm pretty stoked about being to the point where I can say that.
:)
Sun May 02 2021 08:03:39 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusionsI'm pretty stoked about being to the point where I can say that.
2021-05-02 17:27 from Nurb432
Unsure at the moment.
Seems to be improving, but could go south at any moment.Sat May 01 2021 10:28:48 AM EDT from ParanoidDelusions
I missed that your wife is in the hospital. Is she OK?
Wow, man.
I know it means not much, but I offer you both my best wishes.
Agreed. Did you discuss this in more detail in one of the other rooms and I just missed it in the noise of trying to keep up with all the conversations, or have you been just carrying this privately.
Despite the disagreements and flames and conflict of a Citadel BBS - one thing I find is that the sense of community it builds makes you care about the people you interact with on them. Even the people you don't particularly get along with on a Citadel - they're part of the clan and you want them to be healthy and happy. (Yeah, I'm talking about you, Loanshark... even though we clash hard, you're part of Citadel to me, and your presence here shapes the experience and culture of the place...)
I actually get along with you quite well, Nurb - and so I'm seriously concerned to hear you are experiencing this - and feel bad that you were trying to help me out with something as petty as my BBS while going through this in your real life.
Mon May 03 2021 10:48:03 EDT from darknetuser2021-05-02 17:27 from Nurb432
Unsure at the moment.
Seems to be improving, but could go south at any moment.
Sat May 01 2021 10:28:48 AM EDT from ParanoidDelusions
I missed that your wife is in the hospital. Is she OK?
Wow, man.
I know it means not much, but I offer you both my best wishes.
I only mentioned it a few posts up so you knew i didnt blow you off if that didn't fix the problem and i didnt have time to go look up more info. Hospital does have WiFi, but its spotty in her room.
Didn't really get into detail until the other post. you didnt miss anything :)
Well, I appreciate that you were helping me out despite having a lot on your mind. My issues could have absolutely waited without an answer while you took care of much bigger things.
Mon May 03 2021 11:51:08 EDT from Nurb432I only mentioned it a few posts up so you knew i didnt blow you off if that didn't fix the problem and i didnt have time to go look up more info. Hospital does have WiFi, but its spotty in her room.
Didn't really get into detail until the other post. you didnt miss anything :)
So, I realized I was forgetting to put subjects in my posts in Citadel support and it was turning into another session of me "blogging" my troubleshooting.
I got it ironed out, I think. Sort of. There is something kinda jacked up still...
I got it to the point where it is NOT launching on 4916, it IS responding on 443, and it will do the -g/dotgoto redirect on the HTTP port, which is 8916.
But, despite having the exact same redirect (but on 443) in the webcit-https.service config file in /etc/systemd/system/ it does NOT redirect to the "hello" room when an HTTPS connection takes place.
Not sure why that is.
Being able to set checkpoints before making changes on the production server made me much more comfortable taking some risks though - and knowing I have a copy of the VM I can migrate back, and a backup, on top of it.
Multiple levels of easy recovery.
Didn't realize that HiSilicon was a Huawei subsidiary. 88% drop in sales, that is a hell of a hit.
https://www.eetimes.com/qualcomm-mediatek-fill-vacuum-hisilicon-left-in-smartphones/
So, brands like Hisense, or one you may not think of as one with a "hi" brand prefix, "Hitachi" - If there is a meaning, I can't find it - but it is likely that the first syllable's meaning is modified by later syllables if there is an actual meaning and it isn't just a "name sound".
What I love about Asian branding is the superlative adjectives that they love.
"Supermega Most Love Feeling Ultra natural positivebrush for long hairs! $19.99!!!"
Yeah... I suspect it is just a "Super Hi King Royal Premium Ultra" kinda thing. "High is better than low." King things are better than non King Things. Ultra is better. Premium is better.
The more BETTER adjectives you tack on to your product or business name, the better you are claiming that is than the competition.
You can see this in things like Godzilla or Ultraman or Shogun Warriors.
Godking Ultra Man is better than Ultraman, and better than King Ultra man. He is GOD King Ultra Man. The only thing that would beat that would be Ultimate Superior God King Ultra Man. :) More superlative adjectives denotes the more better thing.
Tue Jun 22 2021 09:20:04 EDT from IGnatius T FoobarThe one that made me notice was "HiVPN". The irony was obvious.