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[#] Wed Oct 07 2020 23:20:15 UTC from LoanShark

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-1th law? I'm familiar with the Zeroth Law (read all the damn books as a teenager), but that's new to me

[#] Thu Oct 08 2020 21:32:08 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Most of the time I meet somebody who describes himself as a Humanist, he is a totalitarian using a benevolent disguise.

Some of those folks are just militant atheists in disguise.  My favorite example is the "free thought" movement.  Those people claim to be free thinkers, but in that group you're only allowed to think freely if it leads you to strict atheism.

Full disclosure: I am fully confident that my religion is the only true one and everyone else is wrong.  I just don't feel inclined to be an asshole about it to everyone I meet.  Doing so wouldn't serve any useful purpose.



[#] Thu Oct 08 2020 21:37:28 UTC from LoanShark

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I actually think humanism has a rather conservative bent. It's the belief that we optimize for the human race (which is kinda the opposite of what PETA types believe...)

[#] Fri Oct 09 2020 00:02:30 UTC from zooer

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I read about a local skeptic club, I realized it was a front for the religion of Atheism. 



[#] Fri Oct 09 2020 00:29:30 UTC from LoanShark

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I don't believe you.

[#] Fri Oct 09 2020 09:31:14 UTC from zooer

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Welcome to the club.



[#] Fri Oct 09 2020 22:26:09 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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belief that we optimize for the human race (which is kinda the opposite

of what PETA types believe...)

Assuming that PETA types will tend to be atheists as well, that would seem to make sense.

Christians and Jews know that God said "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creps on the earth" [Genesis 1:26].

And the most devout among us know that if God hadn't intended for animals to be eaten, He wouldn't have made them out of meat.

[#] Sat Oct 10 2020 17:48:32 UTC from darknetuser

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2020-10-07 19:20 from LoanShark

-1th law? I'm familiar with the Zeroth Law (read all the damn books as

a teenager), but that's new to me



I think -1 law belongs to some Asimovian fanfiction which is regarded as semi-official regardless of the fact it was not very good.

[#] Sun Oct 11 2020 01:15:33 UTC from LoanShark

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Couldn't even find it on the googles. Oh well.

[#] Mon Nov 16 2020 06:39:16 UTC from nonservator

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I find "Despair is a sin" to be a useful heuristic without necessarily needing to believe in the literal truth of the statement.

 



[#] Mon Nov 16 2020 10:56:52 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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Thu Oct 08 2020 17:32:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
Most of the time I meet somebody who describes himself as a Humanist, he is a totalitarian using a benevolent disguise.

Some of those folks are just militant atheists in disguise.  My favorite example is the "free thought" movement.  Those people claim to be free thinkers, but in that group you're only allowed to think freely if it leads you to strict atheism.

Full disclosure: I am fully confident that my religion is the only true one and everyone else is wrong.  I just don't feel inclined to be an asshole about it to everyone I meet.  Doing so wouldn't serve any useful purpose.



We think so much alike on issues like these, it is scary that we both ended up hermits hiding in smoky back rooms of the Internet in bad neighborhoods, in back alleys, off the information superhighway...

 



[#] Sat Nov 28 2020 22:51:32 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Little known fact: in about a month, Christians will celebrate a holiday called "Christmas" which commemorates the birth of Christ. Most people don't know about this holiday because they are celebrating a pagan festival of excess which, coincidentally, has the same name and happens at the same time.

[#] Sun Nov 29 2020 12:02:21 UTC from zooer

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Most people are aware that the winter solstice and the day chosen to mark the birth of Yeshua were celebrated at the end of December.



[#] Sun Nov 29 2020 12:06:43 UTC from nonservator

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Happy Than- I mean Happy Non-Sportsball Secular Religion of Murca Day



[#] Sun Nov 29 2020 13:27:18 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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Actually, my calendar reminded me, despite me not knowing or caring, that the day AFTER Thanksgiving is "National Native Indigenous American Appreciation Day." 

I always heard that a big part of Thanksgiving *was* Native Indigenous American Appreciation. 
I guess the SJWs thought they needed an entire day all to themselves, though - that the rest of the US could ignore. Kind of like showing the racists by removing all black spokespersons from brand labels in the grocery store. 

 

 



[#] Sun Nov 29 2020 14:47:17 UTC from zooer

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Sun Nov 29 2020 08:27:18 AM EST from ParanoidDelusions

Actually, my calendar reminded me, despite me not knowing or caring, that the day AFTER Thanksgiving is "National Native Indigenous American Appreciation Day."  

I had the same notification.  Many Native Americans are calling it National Day of Grieving or Native American Grieving day.
I noticed that the first day of February is listed as "The First Day of National Black History Month", and the first day of March is listed as "First Day of Woman's History Month"  That is annoying because in the month view the only thing you see is "First Day".  It is a waste of calendar space.  I get "President's D" and "Valentine", that is simple and gets the point across, but "first day" is meaningless."

(/topic drift)



[#] Sun Nov 29 2020 15:14:34 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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Sun Nov 29 2020 09:47:17 EST from zooer

 (/topic drift)



Back in the old days, we had Aides who would pull off topic messages and either put them in the trash if they were useless, or put them in the proper topic room, where the conversation would pick back up, on topic. 

I'm not sure why we don't do that here on Webcit - but it seems easier to just let the room go off topic. 


So anyhow... 



[#] Sun Nov 29 2020 18:38:31 UTC from zooer

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Topic drift doesn't bother me too much but arabella wanted this room to be successful.  



[#] Mon Nov 30 2020 01:00:32 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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Sun Nov 29 2020 13:38:31 EST from zooer

Topic drift doesn't bother me too much but arabella wanted this room to be successful.  



My original Citadel should have been called, "Off Topic". 

I'm not sure what defines "success" on a modern Citadel. 10 posts a month in a room?

 

 



[#] Mon Nov 30 2020 02:01:22 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Topic drift doesn't bother me too much but arabella wanted this room
to be successful.  

After one has attempted to discuss religion in a forum where Curly was present, and seen the entire thing go sideways faster than you can possibly push the delete button ... *any* discussion that doesn't turn into a flamewar is a ROARING success.

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