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[#] Thu May 20 2021 07:16:55 EDT from darknetuser

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2021-05-19 17:13 from Nurb432
Except HP :)  They dropped support for OSX on this printer, and
stopped updating the Linux driver install er so me moving beyond
Debian v9 blew that too.  My first go around was just to install
their drivers like i did before. but nope. So i went went 'generic'
CUPS and saw that.  But as long as CUPS keeps working i'm ok. just
that message i saw lead me to believe i was screwed here in the near

future. 

I dont print often, mostly mailing labels and perhaps a sewing
template or a recipe, but its nice to be able to do it when i want
and not have to buy a new printer when mine works just fine.

 

its all about having to download firmware to the printer every time
you print. Stupid design. Stupid idea. Should have been illegal. 

 


I used to be a fan of HP printers, but not anymore. This is one of the reasons.


HP is in a blacklist in office for new purchases at the time of this writting. When an HP printer falls appart we buy something else.

[#] Thu May 20 2021 07:19:12 EDT from darknetuser

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2021-05-19 19:42 from Nurb432
Right. just mine ( and a few other old 'windows centeric' ones too im
sure )
Wed May 19 2021 07:20:11 PM EDT from ParanoidDelusions



Oh. For your printer. 

 

Thenn there is the fact you used to be able to print using hplip and only FOSS components and nowadays they want you tom use their plugin engine (which is proprietary), yet they cannot get their certificates right so the plugins are delivered to you unauthenticated.

[#] Thu May 20 2021 07:34:37 EDT from Nurb432

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Ya, my next wont be an HP. After several over the decades.

Used to be one of the best, now they are evil crap. 



[#] Thu May 20 2021 07:36:37 EDT from Nurb432

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Oh, and i dont blame them for dropping support on a 20 year old printer, i dont expect support forever..  But if they didnt do all that firmware crap, they wouldn't have to.  just support PCL, or Postscript ( showing my age there ) or some other more modern standard and be done.



[#] Thu May 20 2021 09:25:27 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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So it's a "winprinter". I thought those went out of style ages ago.

[#] Thu May 20 2021 09:32:40 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Me too. 

 



[#] Thu May 20 2021 10:22:12 EDT from Nurb432

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Well i did say its nearly 20 years old :)    And i was wrong on model its a 1018.  

 



[#] Fri May 21 2021 11:34:37 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Ah, I see, the 1018 isn't a "real" HP printer, as in it doesn't use any normal HP technology and does not speak PCL.  It is a "Zenographics" printer with its own language.

This particular bastardization of printing appears to be supported by the "foo2zjs" project [ https://github.com/koenkooi/foo2zjs ].   Since foo2zjs gets included along with CUPS in your typical Linux distribution, this probably means that Linux will support that printer for much longer than Windows or Mac.



[#] Fri May 21 2021 15:41:01 EDT from Nurb432

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Pretty sure that is the driver set i used. ( i forget now, i just installed 'stuff' and it worked. didnt pay much attention since its all pretty routine, once i found the HP driver would not compile anymore due to my OS version change )

Fri May 21 2021 11:34:37 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Ah, I see, the 1018 isn't a "real" HP printer, as in it doesn't use any normal HP technology and does not speak PCL.  It is a "Zenographics" printer with its own language.

This particular bastardization of printing appears to be supported by the "foo2zjs" project [ https://github.com/koenkooi/foo2zjs ].   Since foo2zjs gets included along with CUPS in your typical Linux distribution, this probably means that Linux will support that printer for much longer than Windows or Mac.



 



[#] Sun May 23 2021 21:17:58 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Wow. That is amazing. I'm going to ask about ALL of my old, obscure, unsupported hardware here on Uncensored before I throw it away. 

Not being sarcastic - this was excellent info. 

 

Fri May 21 2021 11:34:37 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Ah, I see, the 1018 isn't a "real" HP printer, as in it doesn't use any normal HP technology and does not speak PCL.  It is a "Zenographics" printer with its own language.

This particular bastardization of printing appears to be supported by the "foo2zjs" project [ https://github.com/koenkooi/foo2zjs ].   Since foo2zjs gets included along with CUPS in your typical Linux distribution, this probably means that Linux will support that printer for much longer than Windows or Mac.



 



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