I've been looking at phones and come to the conclusion i'll just get the cheapest current android phone i can find - probably a galaxy s3 or 4 mini will do. I mainly want to be able to use some of the newer android apps, and have a slightly better UX than my symbian phone.

I did think that having a good video camera with image stabilization ( my symbian phone has a great camera but the video could do with some stabilization) , but i reaqlize it is not qa top priority now,  otherwise i would have to double my money - or more - to shell out for the top of the range. If i want to shoot video i think i will just buy a proper compact camera or camcorder in the future.

I'd like to try out an android phone before i start thinking of getting sailfish on one or buying a Jolla.  I was tempted to buy a maemo phone like the n900 which i have always wanted, before the Jolla was a reality, and having a 'real' linux (and running debian on the n900 ) is tempting, but i really just want a few of the cool apps my friends have and use and to be able to use them with more ease than an ageing, abandoned high end symbian phone.

When i've got to grips with Android i might consider getting sailfish on there. :)

 

well, most android apps I have tried run just fine on the aliendalvik virtual maschine on jolla. as long as they do not have a companion usb device. OBE2 car dongles for example, or headphones or something else that talks via bluetooth won't work. apps playing music can be used with a bluetooth speaker paired with the sailfish os.

personally, I hate android and everything about it. each and every device I had to use sucks. the cheap once are cheap for a reason, they suck wrt specs and most of the time you are stuck with a 2year old version of android, locked and messed up by the mobile phones manufacturer. cyanogen and other mods are nice, but if you are lucky to get one, you might end up with unsupported hardware because the drivers or some other closed source crap was not portable.

there is also the neo900 and there are tizen phones out there in india, which should run some flavour of linux, too.

Commodore Pet phones:
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/07/15/your-favorite-80s-brand-commodore-is-back-kinda-with-mid-range-smartphone/

And now....T-Mobile's data has been hacked

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/01/experian-reports-data-breach-involving-info-for-more-than-15m-t-mobile-customers.html

 

I think bigger news is when someone doesn't get hacked.

Hm, using my Z2 with an usb keyboard.

Now I only need a stand for that huge lens I've got around for a while and I've got a brazil keyboard.

;-)

Webcit isn't that unusable on that, and in the end the Z2 has a full hd display...

F5 is nice for the goto next room, only scrolling the mailbox view is a bit odd.

I'd say mobile has come a long way.

the madness continues: meanwhile there are x11 servers for andraid around, connected a mouse via usb otg. now trying the debian chroot for android.

 

Brazil anyone?

You're seeing a sony android behind a freznel lens post with a microsoft bluetooth keyboard and an apple magic mouse attached ;-)

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Considering that Brazil is heading into a depression, perhaps it makes sense that they can't afford computers with screns?

I want more than just duplicating my phone's screen onto a larger monitor, though.  I already have that.  I want the display to size and scale itself with sensible fonts and controls.

you can arguably get that with the 3d glasses.

the latest Z sony has a 6" 4k display; most probably conventional lenses make much preciser and sharper pictures than the fresnell lens can ever do.

Naah ... this is a software problem to be solved.  When the phone comes within range of a screen and keyboard, it should be able to pair with that screen and keyboard and act as a compute host.  But it has to act like a desktop computer, not like a Windows 8 computer.

 

Sat Feb 13 2016 12:52:39 PM EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Naah ... this is a software problem to be solved.  When the phone comes within range of a screen and keyboard, it should be able to pair with that screen and keyboard and act as a compute host.  But it has to act like a desktop computer, not like a Windows 8 computer.

Sweet Jesus, don't give general computing to the masses.  Who knows what would happen next.

 

Mon Feb 15 2016 10:22:37 PM ESTfrom ax25

Sweet Jesus, don't give general computing to the masses.  Who knows what would happen next.

We end up with cat videos and facebook.

So, job security for me (as long as my liver holds out).