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[#] Wed Oct 11 2017 12:15:33 EDT from Ladyhawke

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Who are you and what have you done with IGnatious T Foobar?!

[#] Wed Oct 11 2017 17:14:25 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Like I said before ... if Microsoft hasn't gained a foothold outside of the desktop space by now, they're not going to ... and if Linux hasn't gained a foothold inside the desktop space by now, it's not going to either.  So with the slippery-slope gone, and Windows finally out of beta (although they curiously named the 1.0 production release "Windows 7") ... bearing the friction of using a superior but unadopted Linux OS on the desktop simply doesn't make as much sense as it used to.

Also, now that Netscape has won the browser war, the desktop doesn't matter quite as much anymore either.  It's too bad Netscape didn't survive to enjoy their victory.

[#] Wed Oct 11 2017 18:00:02 EDT from Ladyhawke

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Next you'll be saying that the Rosie O'Donnell show's not that bad, after all.....

[#] Wed Oct 11 2017 18:33:50 EDT from wizard of aahz

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Hah.. Now you're going too far.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2017 13:37:05 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Somehow I doubt Rosie will ever be anything other than the horrible disgusting evil ugly poor-excuse-for-a-human that she is now. But if she changes I will acknowledge it.

The truth is, these days the biggest existential threats to the universe are Facebook and Amazon. Microsoft has largely been neutralized. (Karl Vreski can take it from here.)

[#] Thu Oct 12 2017 13:40:32 EDT from fleeb

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I hate what Facebook and Amazon have done to Algol. It's shameful.

That poor star deserves better.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2017 17:31:17 EDT from Ladyhawke

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[#] Sat Oct 14 2017 14:29:16 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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HEY. I *said* "Karl Vreski can take it from here." No one ran with that?
Not even Ragnar?

[#] Mon Oct 16 2017 15:49:54 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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I don't want neutral. I want dead.

[#] Thu Oct 26 2017 14:42:36 EDT from fleeb

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Some people want to see the world burn:

[#] Thu Oct 26 2017 19:37:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Oh yeah, *that* was what was missing from the world ... a rewrite of EDLIN.

Does anyone actually *use* FreeDOS? I thought it existed only as a placeholder for manufacturers to sell computers without an operating system pre-installed, but they have to put something on the disk to get around Microsoft's "any computer sold without an operating system automatically counts as piracy of Windows" schtick.

[#] Fri Oct 27 2017 06:36:27 EDT from fleeb

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For a long time, some form of DOS was needed to at least flash a BIOS or the like, but now that everything seems to support USB, and people building motherboards today account for this, I think it's far less useful than it used to be.

[#] Tue Oct 31 2017 11:38:21 EDT from kc5tja

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Many industrial computers drive equipment with software that only runs in a DOS environment. FreeDOS is primarily intended for similar such applications.

[#] Tue Oct 31 2017 13:59:15 EDT from fleeb

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Ah, that's rich!

[#] Tue Oct 31 2017 14:00:02 EDT from zooer

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We’ve seen lots of blunders on stage, and still happen occasionally, but this must be the best of all. 


How soon they forget:


[#] Tue Oct 31 2017 19:16:45 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Well, at least they correctly demonstrated that the only legitimate purpose of Internet Edge-plorer is to download a real web browser.

Remember the good old days when you had to use FTP to download Netscape?

[#] Wed Nov 01 2017 07:53:55 EDT from fleeb

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I think we can see something interesting here.

Microsoft bundled its browser with the OS, effectively killing Netscape.
In those days, people didn't seem to grasp enough about computers to even realize they had a choice in browsers... they were content to use the one on the OS, even if it was a pile of shit.

Today, people are savvy enough to not only recognize a shitty browser, but to also download and install a browser they prefer in its place.

Even though you'd think, "Well, it's just a browser, any of these ought to do," there's enough of a difference that people still care enough to install their own.

Frankly, we've come a ways from the computer illiterate person just getting into computers. It's part of our lives now, like it or not.

And those who never really got it about computers, or for whatever reason didn't embrace them, are probably kinda lost, and getting more lost as time moves forward.

[#] Wed Nov 15 2017 20:07:17 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Microsoft was the primary culprit in killing Netscape, but Netscape also had a hand in its own destruction. The predominant attitude over there, espoused by famous assholes such as Mike Shaver and Jamie Zawinski, was "we invented the popular Internet and it is ours and you must continue to revere us as gods." They really did think of themselves that highly and could not imagine the crown passing to someone else.

Microsoft bashing observation for today:

People like to bash non-Microsoft office suites like LibreOffice because they occasionally don't have full fidelity opening Microsoft Office documents.
You know what's even worse at opening Microsoft Office documents? Microsoft Office 365. Anything other than the simplest of documents, it's like there was a middle step where someone tried to edit it in emacs first.

Also ... Sharepoint 365 is even worse than regular Sharepoint. I didn't even think that was possible.

[#] Thu Nov 16 2017 15:14:37 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold

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I haven't seen any real issues with Office 365 Word documents. As for Sharepoint, fuck that.

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