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[#] Thu Feb 27 2014 18:13:33 EST from LoanShark

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Yeah, and FiOS is the replacement for T1! Without the SLA. Lame.

[#] Fri Feb 28 2014 07:41:12 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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In the bigger picture, metro ethernet is the replacement for T1. For a while, the telcos were just slapping TDM-to-Ethernet adapters onto their existing SONET infrastructure, but now many of them seem to be doing end-to-end packet switch. And you can get it with an SLA. The problem is that you have to be in a lit building to get it; they won't do Ethernet last-mile from the nearest lit location to a non-lit customer prem.

If you're in a metropolis like NYC, chances are *someone* has either lit your building or deliberately deployed a metro ethernet infrastructure into it. Good luck anywhere else though. Your best bet is to order an OC3 so they have to run fiber :)

The PON technology that runs FiOS is *capable* of QoS but they're not using it for anything other than reserving enough bandwidth for voice. To be honest, I'm still absolutely thrilled with my FiOS service; it's blazingly fast *all* the time and I've had close to zero downtime in the nearly five years I've had it. There is certainly no business class SLA attached to it, of course. But it's still several orders of magnitude more dependable than anything the cable company is capable of delivering.

[#] Fri Feb 28 2014 10:39:13 EST from zooer

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It is odd, on my home account I have had the same IP address, it stayed the same through power failures
disconnecting the modem from both the cable and power. I had to upgrade my modem so I purchased one, at that
point my IP address changed, but I don't think it has changed since. I logged it at one time and a Dec 3, 2013
shows the same IP address as today.
It may not be static, but it hasn't changed.

[#] Fri Feb 28 2014 14:55:56 EST from vince-q <>

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class SLA attached to it, of course. But it's still several orders of

magnitude more dependable than anything the cable company is capable of


Two tin cans tightly connected with a string would be "several orders of magnitude more dependable than anything the cable company is capable of delivering."

[#] Sun Mar 02 2014 23:49:05 EST from ax25

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Goodbye Internet.  Hello Hinternet:

Not that it would get much data across quickly, but low data requirements would find a way.

[#] Tue Mar 04 2014 17:06:39 EST from zooer

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Could replace those HughesNet satellite Internet connection you see on gas stations everywhere. If those are
still in use.

[#] Sat Mar 15 2014 23:01:33 EDT from Ladyhawke

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What IG said.  From a provisioning standpoint, when I have a client that insists on FiOS, it's actually considered a Broadband equivalent, on the order of Cable or DSL - definitely not T1.  Believe it or not, we can even get an SLA for it - it's just not worth much once the calcs are done.  T1 and MPLS are still the way to go if you need decent quality of speed and dependability....if you can afford the cost, that is; the jump is huge.

[#] Sat Mar 15 2014 23:44:28 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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There is also the small matter of T1 or some other TDM or metro ethernet being a requirement if you want the connection to go to a Z-Loc rather than to "teh Internet"

Meanwhile, what I usually see cost conscious buyers do is simply get broadband service from two or more providers (one telco and one cablecrap) and use one as a backup for the other. After about half a dozen support requests to change a VPN peer address in a two week period, our ops guys figure out that they're on a dynamic IP and tell them we don't support that and they have to figure out a way to make it work automatically.

[#] Mon Mar 24 2014 14:24:02 EDT from LoanShark

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them we don't support that and they have to figure out a way to make it

work automatically.


It's cheap to get a static IP from VZN and TW. Their QOS still sucks, even with the static IP...

[#] Thu Mar 27 2014 07:23:19 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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but ... but ... but ... TEH CLOUD!!!!!!1`

[#] Thu Mar 27 2014 07:56:57 EDT from wizard of aahz

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The cloud has clouded your brain

[#] Thu Mar 27 2014 10:30:13 EDT from zooer

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I took advantage of one of those free MP3 samplers on Amazon. I have downloaded music from Amazon before but
not recently. For some reason Amazon put it on "the cloud" for me and then told me I can listen to it whenever,
wherever I want.
I can't listen to it in my car when I want.

[#] Thu Mar 27 2014 15:57:58 EDT from LoanShark

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The cloud has clouded your brain

You're talking to a brain in a vat. IG uploaded his consciousness to teh cloud last year.

As for who or what you ate lunch with the other day... I don't know. Be worried.

[#] Fri Mar 28 2014 07:32:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I have been a brain in a vat for quite some time now. Doesn't really matter whether the vat's Internet presence is on bare metal or in TEH CLOUD ... as long as the bandwidth is decent.

[#] Sat May 17 2014 10:02:41 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Wow. Just ... wow.

Douchebag cable companies are now using SUBSCRIBERS' ROUTERS as public wi-fi hotspots.

Comcast: [ ]
Cablevision: [ ]

Even if they quietly offer an option to turn it off, how many subscribers are going to know? How many will instead just assume they have lousy service instead of understanding that someone in the area is sharing their bandwidth?

The firmware supposedly doesn't count against the subscriber's bandwidth, but there's only so much bandwidth in the wired pipe into the customer prem to begin with.

[#] Sat May 17 2014 11:17:30 EDT from vince-q <>

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Douchebag cable companies are now using SUBSCRIBERS' ROUTERS as public

wi-fi hotspots.

So... all the customer need do is go to the local tech-toys Big Box store and buy his own DOCSIS V(whatever) cable modem - without any wireless at all - and a good wireless router and run his/her own equipment.

That has two advantages.
1. you can give the cable company their modem back and no longer have to pay a monthly fee for "leasing" their modem
2. you now have absolute configurable control over your own "site." Want to let some folks use your wireless? Put in a password and tell them ("pennyisaleech" as on Big Bang Theory is just one!).

[#] Sat May 17 2014 14:17:34 EDT from zooer

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"... that is completely separate and distinct from the family’s private and secure home WiFi signal. "

The traffic from the provider to the modem could be separate but the wifi might cause bandwidth problems.

Every once and a while I check the available wifi signals around the house, I occasionally pick up one that
looks like a business name along with the same name with "Guest" after it, the guest is open. I wonder if that
is a TimeWarner(almost Comcast) modem/router. This is a strictly residental area so I have no idea where that
signal is coming from.

[#] Sat May 17 2014 17:04:21 EDT from vince-q <>

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Get rid of the cable company's modem and you get rid of their WiFi intrusion - period.

Aftermarket cable modems abound. With and without WiFi. I recommend without. A simple modem that is just that - simple - talks to the cable on one side and ethernet on your side.

Connect that to an aftermarket ethernet/WiFi router. I ***strongly*** recommend the cicso home office router. About a hundred bucks. Probably not at Best Cry, but maybe at Frys. Try NewEgg on line. I've been running that thing at home for over a year and I love it.

[#] Mon May 19 2014 05:27:50 EDT from dothebart

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way back in the days when wifi routers were pricy, there was a company called 'la fonera' around here.

they would give you an accesspoint for free. it would have a second antenna, for the public hotspot.


since theres QOS and bandwith shaping in the linux kernel which works pretty well nowadays (which you will find in most routers) I don't see the point in not doing it?

[#] Mon May 19 2014 09:58:22 EDT from the_mgt

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I have always hated the devices branded by the ISP. They had ridiculously little configuration options and performed like crap, often. In germany, the Fritz! Box is widely used, often unbranded. Had some security issues lately, but overall gives fine grained control and can be pimped with the freetz! software. Kind of a parasite mod, which lets you do even more basic linux stuff. Like running dropbear.

The el cheapo ISPs here wont give you support if you do not use their crap box, some even do not give you the login credentials. And I doubt that my mom could exchange an ISP box with a free one. She would refuse to do so, I guess. It is also one of the most common tasks I do for my clients, only very few of them dare to do it themselves.

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