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[#] Sun Jul 18 2021 06:50:59 EDT from darknetuser

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Reply to Claire Lehmann's tweets: Some of those are actual arguments. Some of those are non-arguments designed to pander to feelings rather than reason ("The reason why you don't want the vaccine is that you are a little kid with a fear of needles")

Kind of disappointed really.

[#] Sun Jul 18 2021 07:04:42 EDT from darknetuser

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Yeah, there's no sauce here (and I think I'm agreeing with PD

again...)


I understand the paranoia though. Those of us who caught covid during

the early stages (say, around March 2020) felt very ill-served by a

medical establishment that was treating us like lepers and just telling

us to stay home.

That's the way it had to be, of course. That was so that the hospitals

could focus their efforts on folks who actually needed the most care.



Although, I still hear stories of people being told to stay home

despite a rather shockingly low SpO2. Ugh.


In NYC, it was a shitshow, with brutal triage decisions being made in

the field by paramedics
instead of by the more qualified doctors. My
mom's cousin was sent home, where she suddenly died.



Well I have seen them send critical people home with one of those battlefield painkiller packs. While there were rooms available in the hospital.


Beat that.

I am familiar up to a point with hospital service and the disinformation threat is very real. Laboratories DO buy doctors in order to secure sales. I know some lab sales-people and they all tell me buying Doctors and managers with prostitute orgies is not unheard off if they think they can generate a positive profit by the end of the semester.

Negative reports for certain medications usually just hit when the lab intends to swtch from that medication to a new line of meds. How convenient.

I don't want to discredit ACLL studies, but under these circumptstances it is hard to trust them when it comes to injecting biological agents in your body, specially since some of the laboratories are suspect - seriously, they waited until the end of the 2020 elections to disclose the vaccine, which hints there are partisant interests behind the whole deal.

[#] Sun Jul 18 2021 08:20:31 EDT from Nurb432

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Yep.  All one can hope is that they honestly thought the vax was safe/good, and just refused to give Trump any credit. Still wrong, but at least not deadly on its own.

Going off the theory that If they *knew* it was deadly they knew that they woudl be killing off their own base, as they were more likely to get the shot than the other side. 

 

Sun Jul 18 2021 07:04:42 AM EDTfrom darknetuser Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Safety of COVID-19 Vaccinations—We Should Rethink the Policy
they waited until the end of the 2020 elections to disclose the vaccine, which hints there are partisant interests behind the whole deal.
 

 



[#] Mon Aug 02 2021 14:10:44 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Over the weekend I had the opportunity to chat with a friend who is a licensed pharmacist.  He gave me some information on vaccine distribution.

When vaccinations first started, he had to throw away at most one dose every couple of weeks.  It is distributed in multi dose containers, and once the container is opened, it must be used in its entirety within a specific number of hours.  This was never a problem at first.

Today, he is throwing away more doses than he is distributing.  The rate of people coming in for the vaccines has slowed down significantly.

This pharmacy distributes Moderna and Johnson vaccines.  He doesn't seem to trust the Pfizer.

And which one does he trust for himself?  Hydroxychloroquine.



[#] Mon Aug 02 2021 14:37:56 EDT from Nurb432

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Anyone that fully trusts a new drug, without any real testing = a fool. There is a reason it takes time, and its not all just FDA red tape.

With that one, decades of history.. they know what it will and wont do to you.  Of course that may not stop FDA from getting in the middle of it  ( like midrin.. pricks )

Mon Aug 02 2021 02:10:44 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: A pharmacist's take

And which one does he trust for himself?  Hydroxychloroquine.



 



[#] Tue Aug 03 2021 02:26:56 EDT from test2

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 HCQ, mmmmm tasty.  Don't forget the Zn (50mg)

 

Mon Aug 02 2021 02:10:44 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: A pharmacist's take

And which one does he trust for himself?  Hydroxychloroquine.

 



[#] Tue Aug 03 2021 08:02:33 EDT from nonservator

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HCQ appears more effective if you administer it very early. Ivermectin is effective at any phase, from preventative to critically ill. 1% injectable is cheaper than pony paste and easier to dose. Just drink it.



[#] Tue Aug 03 2021 20:00:26 EDT from darknetuser

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2021-08-02 14:10 from IGnatius T Foobar
Subject: A pharmacist's take
Over the weekend I had the opportunity to chat with a friend who is a

licensed pharmacist.  He gave me some information on vaccine
distribution.

When vaccinations first started, he had to throw away at most one
dose every couple of weeks.  It is distributed in multi dose
containers, and once the container is opened, it must be used in its

entirety within a specific number of hours.  This was never a
problem at first.

Today, he is throwing away more doses than he is distributing.  The

rate of people coming in for the vaccines has slowed down
significantly.

This pharmacy distributes Moderna and Johnson vaccines.  He doesn't

seem to trust the Pfizer.

And which one does he trust for himself?  Hydroxychloroquine.



Something people is overlooking is that having ok vitamin and mineral levels seems to massively improve the odds on your favor. The virus is swipping through misfed people regardless of the vaccination state around here.


[#] Tue Aug 03 2021 20:04:18 EDT from darknetuser

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2021-08-02 14:37 from Nurb432
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Anyone that fully trusts a new drug, without any real testing = a
fool. There is a reason it takes time, and its not all just FDA red

tape.


The way I see it:

* Either the FDE and alikes were right when they forced laboratories to wait for years before releasing a new drug.
* Or the FDA and alikes are right when they say it is ok to distribute vaccines after just a year of development, in which case it means they were assholes all the years before by blocking the development of medicines.

In both cases they end up being total bastards.

[#] Tue Aug 03 2021 20:08:41 EDT from Nurb432

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My personal feeling is the FDA drug out ( no pun intended ) release of new drugs, presumably on the side of over-caution. However, what we did with this vax was wrong too. You need SOME time for testing.  Perhaps not a decade, but not a few weeks or months either.



[#] Tue Aug 03 2021 20:09:57 EDT from darknetuser

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2021-08-03 02:26 from test2
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 HCQ, mmmmm tasty.  Don't forget the Zn (50mg)


Beware Zinc. High doses may interfere with the absortion of other minerals such as copper.

50 mg. sounds too dangerous of a dose to have unless it comes in non elemental form (such as Zinc gluconate).

You can probably have up to 80 mg. of Zinc gluconate a day, but if you do, you have to remember not to take such doses for long. You should stop three months after you start taking it, and being taking it again after another three months.

Also, don't forget Vitamin D seems to improve your odds quite a lot. You can get D+K combos for very cheap today, so there is no excuse to have defficencies there.

[#] Wed Aug 04 2021 16:39:31 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I wonder if Vitamin D is related to the lower rate of viruses in general during the summer months. All of the natural Vitamin D produced by the body during exposure to sunlight.

[#] Wed Aug 04 2021 16:44:21 EDT from Nurb432

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I take extra, since i avoid sunlight as much as possible my D is low normally.



[#] Thu Aug 05 2021 01:38:05 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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I have been taking Vitamin D and a Multivitamin religiously since that got recommended. Don't know if it helps or not... but... I'm sure I must have been exposed. My boss had it and I was around him when he must have been dropping it. 

 

Tue Aug 03 2021 20:00:26 EDT from darknetuser Subject: Re: A pharmacist's take


Something people is overlooking is that having ok vitamin and mineral levels seems to massively improve the odds on your favor. The virus is swipping through misfed people regardless of the vaccination state around here.

 



[#] Thu Aug 05 2021 07:53:48 EDT from LoanShark

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2021-08-04 16:39 from IGnatius T Foobar
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I wonder if Vitamin D is related to the lower rate of viruses in
general during the summer months. All of the natural Vitamin D
produced by the body during exposure to sunlight.



do you get your vitamin D from LCD glow or from sunlight?

[#] Fri Aug 06 2021 08:53:43 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Heh. Wouldn't *that* be funny. Screen time addicts would be some of the healthiest people in the world.

I vaguely remember hearing in the distant past that the lamps they use in school gymnasiums were engineered to trigger Vitamin D production. All I remember is that they made my skin look spotty. But that was decades ago and they've probably switched to something else by now.

[#] Fri Aug 06 2021 12:11:06 EDT from Nurb432

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When i was married to my first wife, neither of us could handle the sunlight. Sun was/is evil. We were night crawlers. Slept during the day, worked/played at night.   We didnt do well with heat either.

She had almost no skin color.  I had some, but still pretty pale.  Neither were taking D back then, i'm sure not a good idea.



[#] Fri Aug 06 2021 14:34:32 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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I saw a documentary where they discussed that in Siberia or the Ukraine the school kids would stand under ultraviolet lights to get their Vit. D during the winters. 

 



[#] Fri Aug 06 2021 14:54:47 EDT from Nurb432

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Hard on the eyes i would imagine.  I think id prefer supplements. 



[#] Sat Aug 07 2021 10:01:13 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Super Sunnies Eye Goggles for Tanning Beds

Fri Aug 06 2021 14:54:47 EDT from Nurb432

Hard on the eyes i would imagine.  I think id prefer supplements. 



 



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