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[#] Wed Mar 10 2021 14:21:27 EST from ParanoidDelusions

Subject: Re: collect: premature EOM: input/output error

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Look at your usr/local/citadel/files directory on RPi, Raspbian OS.

 My guess is even as root or with su or sudo you can't access this folder. You'll need to CHOWN it. 


Wed Mar 10 2021 13:09:46 EST from NevadaRob Subject: Re: collect: premature EOM: input/output error

I have the same issue on Raspbian.  Mail working nice on port 8443.  I can receive attachments but get an error when trying to attach and send a small file.  

This support installation of citadel can add attachments fine.

I must have a permission setting wrong - but where?



 



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[#] Wed Mar 10 2021 19:37:29 EST from NevadaRob

Subject: Re: collect: premature EOM: input/output error

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Right you are!

for anyone else with this issue

cd /usr/local/citadel

sudo chmod -R 775 test

sudo chown -R citadel:citadel test

Thanks



[#] Thu Mar 11 2021 02:33:53 EST from sharezone

Subject: errore installation citadel on raspberry pi4

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i try to install citadel on raspberry pi4 with command 

wget http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | sudo bash

 

but i receview error 

 

config.guess timestamp = 2006-07-02

 

uname -m = aarch64

uname -r = 4.19.0-13-arm64

uname -s = Linux

uname -v = #1 SMP Debian 4.19.160-2 (2020-11-28)

 

/usr/bin/uname -p = unknown

/bin/uname -X     =

 

hostinfo               =

/bin/universe          =

/usr/bin/arch -k       =

/bin/arch              = aarch64

/usr/bin/oslevel       =

/usr/convex/getsysinfo =

 

UNAME_MACHINE = aarch64

UNAME_RELEASE = 4.19.0-13-arm64

UNAME_SYSTEM  = Linux

UNAME_VERSION = #1 SMP Debian 4.19.160-2 (2020-11-28)

configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one

 Citadel Easy Install is aborting.

 The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong.

 Linux Debian 10.8( 4.19.0-13-arm64 aarch64)

 

can help me

 


[#] Fri Mar 12 2021 12:08:14 EST from citadeluser

Subject: Re: collect: premature EOM: input/output error

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Log on the recipient side  after Citadel-SMTP email with text only:

sendmail[1840]: 12CGlZ0C001739: to=<xxx@yyy.aa>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=31051, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent

 

Log on the recipient side after Citadel-SMTP Email with attachments:

sendmail[1923]: 12CGqgmh001823: collect: premature EOM: unexpected close





Note:

Note: with "easyinstall" there was a warning "Variable b64 defined but not used" (or something like that)

Does this variable have something to do with Base64 for binary attechments?

Does this mean that SMTP does not work with binary attechments?

 



[#] Fri Mar 12 2021 12:43:05 EST from citadeluser

Subject: Re: collect: premature EOM: input/output error

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Sending email with binary attachments is not possible internally either. Emails are sent - but without attachments.



[#] Fri Mar 12 2021 17:21:49 EST from citadeluser

Subject: Re: collect: premature EOM: input/output error

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vcard_edit.c:424:6: warning: variable 'is_b64' set but not used [-Wunused-but-set-variable]
  424 |  int is_b64 = 0;

 

And many more warnings



[#] Fri Mar 12 2021 19:57:08 EST from markus

Subject: Please renew config.guess/config.sub in libcitadel-easyinstall.tar.gz

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Dear developers,

I have checked the latest editions (9th of March 2021) of

- citadel-easyinstall.tar.gz,

- webcit-easyinstall.tar.gz and

- libcitadel-easyinstall.tar.gz

As I can see, you have renewed config.guess and config.sub in the first two mentioned archives, but not in the last.

Would you please do it?

Thanks,

Markus



[#] Fri Mar 12 2021 20:10:16 EST from markus

Subject: Re: errore installation citadel on raspberry pi4

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Please follow the instructions of my posting on Sun Jan 24 2021 16:19:47 EST. You can ignore all instructions concerning

- citadel-easyinstall.tar.gz and

- webcit-easyinstall.tar.gz

because these archives are already fixed.

 

 

Thu Mar 11 2021 02:33:53 EST from sharezone Subject: errore installation citadel on raspberry pi4

i try to install citadel on raspberry pi4 with command 

wget http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | sudo bash

 

but i receview error 

 

config.guess timestamp = 2006-07-02

 

uname -m = aarch64

uname -r = 4.19.0-13-arm64

uname -s = Linux

uname -v = #1 SMP Debian 4.19.160-2 (2020-11-28)

 

/usr/bin/uname -p = unknown

/bin/uname -X     =

 

hostinfo               =

/bin/universe          =

/usr/bin/arch -k       =

/bin/arch              = aarch64

/usr/bin/oslevel       =

/usr/convex/getsysinfo =

 

UNAME_MACHINE = aarch64

UNAME_RELEASE = 4.19.0-13-arm64

UNAME_SYSTEM  = Linux

UNAME_VERSION = #1 SMP Debian 4.19.160-2 (2020-11-28)

configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one

 Citadel Easy Install is aborting.

 The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong.

 Linux Debian 10.8( 4.19.0-13-arm64 aarch64)

 

can help me

 


 



[#] Sat Mar 13 2021 15:40:51 EST from tsalmon

Subject: Initial Setup

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I have a few questions:

Does Citadel support SSL/TLS?

I have been trying to use a third-party CA authority for the SSL certificates.

Is there a setting to setup TLS for citadel and webcit?

 



[#] Sat Mar 13 2021 22:57:43 EST from ParanoidDelusions

Subject: Re: collect: premature EOM: input/output error

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Yeah, this was one of the main reasons I updated to an i5 NUC and full Debian... and in the process of migrating, I discovered this issue. :) 

Otherwise I was pretty happy running it on a Pi 3, and it ran pretty well. 


But, it was a good learning experience, and made me understand the whole thing better - and get more serious about running the BBS - so, I suppose it was worth it. :) 

 

Wed Mar 10 2021 19:37:29 EST from NevadaRob Subject: Re: collect: premature EOM: input/output error

Right you are!

for anyone else with this issue

cd /usr/local/citadel

sudo chmod -R 775 test

sudo chown -R citadel:citadel test

Thanks



 



[#] Mon Mar 15 2021 15:01:11 EDT from tlhonmey

Subject: "Fediverse"

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Not certain if this is the best room to discuss this, but it seems to be the closest in the list...

I'm noticing lots of projects to try to take back the social web cropping up, and they're all developing common, "federated" protocols to let users on the various different servers/platforms interact with each other mostly-seamlessly.

 

Thing is...  Citadel is *way* more polished than even the best of these.  (Most of which are written in horribly resource-hungry languages like PHP or GO and only have a small set of the features.) 

But Citadel has no "Federation" features (at least, not that I've ever noticed.)  If I want to talk to someone on a different server I can maybe send them an email.  For pretty much anything else I have to go and create an account on their server.

While this is fine as a replacement for Exchange and other "Groupware" suites, the days where mailing lists were everyone's favorite means of socializing on the web are likely over.

 

I'm not sure where the best place to add other server interactions to the current metaphors would be.  Possibly a special floor?  A "Public" floor that publishes its contents via the federation protocols and allows "foreign" posts to be seamlessly displayed seems like it would be a decent starting point.  Or maybe do it at the room level.  I can see how one might prefer either approach.

All the other open-source federated social platform projects are pale imitations run by people with a tiny fraction of the Citadel community's experience.  The only thing they do better than Citadel is that they talk to each other.  Were Citadel to jump into that pool I'd expect it would make quite a splash.

 



[#] Mon Mar 15 2021 15:25:45 EDT from Nurb432

Subject: Re: "Fediverse"

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Something like this did exist. It went away. My understanding is it may come back someday.



[#] Mon Mar 15 2021 19:29:33 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

Subject: Re: "Fediverse"

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You're not the first person to agitate for more of this in Citadel. It is a mixed bag. 

Part of what makes Citadel so awesome is it isn't a polished nightclub - it is a corner local. It isn't fancy enough for the mouth-breathing masses. 

The more social media features we add - the bigger the audience is likely to grow - also, the more common that audience - bringing a lot of the problems that right now are contained on places like Facebook and Twitter. 

Maybe let them *have* the social media web - and we can keep the anti-social-media web. :) 

But... I am not unsympathetic to the idea of sidenets and more social media features. 

 



[#] Mon Mar 15 2021 22:50:31 EDT from tlhonmey

Subject: Re: "Fediverse"

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I'm not suggesting that Citadel has all the "bells and whistles" of the big social media giants.

It's just more functional and more polished than any of the open-source alternatives I've seen to date.  GNUSocial, Friendica, Mastodon, Diaspora, etc...  They all support only one or two of the features, are horrifically ugly, or are prone to spontaneous combustion if you look at them wrong...  Or all three of the above...  And most of them are resource hungry above and beyond what seems reasonable for their limited feature set.

The thing about the federation protocols is that you very much get to stay a "corner nightclub".  You can put up a server that caters to whatever particular community you want and most of the communication can be internal, but the rest of the world is still there when you want it.  You don't have to have five different accounts on five different servers to talk to everyone you want to.  It's similar in concept to OpenID, only at the message level.  One account on one server is sufficient to talk to everyone.  If you want to.  Or you can keep it to just a select group of people. 

If nothing else, it would let the other Citadel instances in the world talk to each other and make the most of a small community. 

But for the effort involved it might as well use a protocol that lets you talk to everyone.  You can always blacklist the ones you don't actually want to hear from.  Or whitelist the ones you do...  Or whatever.

Citadel has managed to survive...  what?  Two paradigm shifts in the way people use computer networks?  Would be a crying shame to let it fade into obscurity now.  Especially when the latest shift isn't really the features provided, just the scope of message passing.

 

 



[#] Tue Mar 16 2021 09:53:17 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Please renew config.guess/config.sub in libcitadel-easyinstall.tar.gz

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As I can see, you have renewed config.guess and config.sub in the first two mentioned archives, but not in the last.

Would you please do it?

Thanks for noting that, it has been fixed in the tree and will be published soon.



[#] Tue Mar 16 2021 09:56:58 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: "Fediverse"

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Thing is...  Citadel is *way* more polished than even the best of these.  (Most of which are written in horribly resource-hungry languages like PHP or GO and only have a small set of the features.) 

But Citadel has no "Federation" features (at least, not that I've ever noticed.)  If I want to talk to someone on a different server I can maybe send them an email.  For pretty much anything else I have to go and create an account on their server.

Yes, you're correct and it is very much in the plans.

At the moment we are focused on an effort to make Citadel easier to install using binary packages (AppImages).  Once that effort is complete (soon!) we are getting back to work on a new version of WebCit, one a little more modernized.  The features slated for that will likely include all of the "fediverse" protocols, as we very much do want Citadel to participate in that world.

Look around some of the other rooms here on Uncensored to learn more.  We are a very technolibertarian community and we want to be a big player in this kind of thing.



[#] Tue Mar 16 2021 11:20:44 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

Subject: Re: "Fediverse"

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And don't get me wrong - I've been an advocate for this, and still am. 

But I see things happening in other communities I'm involved with - that like Citadel - have had a higher barrier to entry and - let's face it, are kind of "retro" driven - which Citadel kind of fits that description, too. 

Those things cause me some concern. You can dilute the quality of the community and attract the very non-technolibertarian elements that you're trying to be an alternative into your community, morphing it into something entirely unwanted. 

Tue Mar 16 2021 09:56:58 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: "Fediverse"

Thing is...  Citadel is *way* more polished than even the best of these.  (Most of which are written in horribly resource-hungry languages like PHP or GO and only have a small set of the features.) 

But Citadel has no "Federation" features (at least, not that I've ever noticed.)  If I want to talk to someone on a different server I can maybe send them an email.  For pretty much anything else I have to go and create an account on their server.

Yes, you're correct and it is very much in the plans.

At the moment we are focused on an effort to make Citadel easier to install using binary packages (AppImages).  Once that effort is complete (soon!) we are getting back to work on a new version of WebCit, one a little more modernized.  The features slated for that will likely include all of the "fediverse" protocols, as we very much do want Citadel to participate in that world.

Look around some of the other rooms here on Uncensored to learn more.  We are a very technolibertarian community and we want to be a big player in this kind of thing.



 



[#] Tue Mar 16 2021 13:46:39 EDT from tlhonmey

Subject: Re: "Fediverse"

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Groovy.

Do you have a bugtracker somewhere?  I see lots of documentation about how to extract debug reports of various types, but nothing about where to send them and your link to the source code repository is currently returning a 404.

I'm not a particularly speedy programmer, but I'm reasonably good at QA and have the hardware to test the Appimages on whichever OSs you've decided to care about. 

Can't make any promises about how much time I'll be able to devote to it since there's a baby due soon, but I'll chip in whatever I can.

Tue Mar 16 2021 11:20:44 EDT from ParanoidDelusions Subject: Re: "Fediverse"

And don't get me wrong - I've been an advocate for this, and still am. 

But I see things happening in other communities I'm involved with - that like Citadel - have had a higher barrier to entry and - let's face it, are kind of "retro" driven - which Citadel kind of fits that description, too. 

Those things cause me some concern. You can dilute the quality of the community and attract the very non-technolibertarian elements that you're trying to be an alternative into your community, morphing it into something entirely unwanted. 

Tue Mar 16 2021 09:56:58 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: "Fediverse"

Thing is...  Citadel is *way* more polished than even the best of these.  (Most of which are written in horribly resource-hungry languages like PHP or GO and only have a small set of the features.) 

But Citadel has no "Federation" features (at least, not that I've ever noticed.)  If I want to talk to someone on a different server I can maybe send them an email.  For pretty much anything else I have to go and create an account on their server.

Yes, you're correct and it is very much in the plans.

At the moment we are focused on an effort to make Citadel easier to install using binary packages (AppImages).  Once that effort is complete (soon!) we are getting back to work on a new version of WebCit, one a little more modernized.  The features slated for that will likely include all of the "fediverse" protocols, as we very much do want Citadel to participate in that world.

Look around some of the other rooms here on Uncensored to learn more.  We are a very technolibertarian community and we want to be a big player in this kind of thing.



 



 



[#] Tue Mar 16 2021 16:00:50 EDT from rbaral233

Subject: Email Server Down... citadel.service fails to start... raspberry pi 4

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hey i am having an issue with my email server. It has been up and functioning perfectly for the past probably 6+ months since ive set it up... only 1 user, and everything is setup and running fine before this but i noticed after i was unable to reach the web interface the other day that the server isn't  running. The raspberry pi that its installed on is up and running perfectly, updated through apt-get update/upgrade as of the other day... and is on the network and nothing on any infrastructure end has changed.

BUT randomly like i said i noticed the email server went down and now is not functioning on the raspberry pi, and any attempt to reboot, or cmd prompt "restart or start citadel.service" fails and gives me exit code 105... i get no other info or anything given as to why or what happened or what is failing, but if someone could 1 point me in the right direction as to find the logs and if i can track down when/ why it failed in the first place... as well as if anyone has any experience or knows why or how to repair it or repair the server files as a whole if that may be the issue.....

 

 

Thanks,

Rob



[#] Fri Mar 19 2021 14:45:51 EDT from bernini

Subject: Re: Raspbian Pi Attachment Issues

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Hi!

have the same issues on a Pi 2B/Raspbian(Linux raspberrypi 5.10.17-v7+ #1403 SMP Mon Feb 22 11:29:51 GMT 2021 armv7l), Citadel installed by easy-install, with not being able to see attachments in the Webinterface, also the language selection is broken. (See attachment)

On clients everything is fine, actually everything else is working like a charm, its just this little strange webcit-behaviour.

 

I already have tried to play with the locale and changed the /files permissions and owner, no success so far.

I have read all the threads about this/similar issues and was using search engines for hours, maybe there is a chance that I just missed something?

Should I provide further details? Any suggestions about what to log?

 

Cheers!



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