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[#] Sat Mar 06 2021 13:15:11 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: citadel with nginx

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Run WebCit on another port and configure nginx to proxy to it.

[#] Sun Mar 07 2021 05:22:17 EST from tabbi

Subject: Re: citadel with nginx

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Sat Mar 06 2021 13:15:11 EST from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: citadel with nginx
Run WebCit on another port and configure nginx to proxy to it.

Its a nice idea, I try it :-)

Regards tabbi



[#] Sun Mar 07 2021 21:22:31 EST from noahhallows

Subject: DKIM on Citadel

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Hello

I am setting up a email server using Citadel and I need to use DKIM to stop emails going to the recipients SPAM folder.

Can some one help.



[#] Sun Mar 07 2021 23:31:59 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: DKIM on Citadel

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Citadel does not support DKIM directly. You will need to send your outbound mail through some other agent to add the DKIM signature. Fortunately you can do this using the "smart host" directive in Citadel to send mail to a local mailer.

[#] Mon Mar 08 2021 05:52:40 EST from infomatics

Subject: closed ports

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Running citadel on debian 9 with no other apps.

firewall is disabled and all iptable entries removed with default allow on all

citadel setup with standard ports and webcit running with 8080 and 8443

8080 and 8443 work and are open ie can configure and add users

ports 25,123,465,587,993 are all closed when testing with  tcptraceroute

can someone please offer some guidance

rgds Ian



[#] Wed Mar 10 2021 09:19:20 EST from citadeluser

Subject: collect: premature EOM: input/output error

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Sending emails is not reliable. Small text emails usually work. But you can't rely on it. Emails with attachments (pictures, etc.) "disappear" without error messages, they do not arrive.

I received such log entries from email servers on the recipient side:


"collect: premature EOM: input/output error"






[#] Wed Mar 10 2021 13:09:46 EST from NevadaRob

Subject: Re: collect: premature EOM: input/output error

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I have the same issue on Raspbian.  Mail working nice on port 8443.  I can receive attachments but get an error when trying to attach and send a small file.  

This support installation of citadel can add attachments fine.

I must have a permission setting wrong - but where?



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[#] Wed Mar 10 2021 14:21:27 EST from ParanoidDelusions

Subject: Re: collect: premature EOM: input/output error

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Look at your usr/local/citadel/files directory on RPi, Raspbian OS.

 My guess is even as root or with su or sudo you can't access this folder. You'll need to CHOWN it. 


Wed Mar 10 2021 13:09:46 EST from NevadaRob Subject: Re: collect: premature EOM: input/output error

I have the same issue on Raspbian.  Mail working nice on port 8443.  I can receive attachments but get an error when trying to attach and send a small file.  

This support installation of citadel can add attachments fine.

I must have a permission setting wrong - but where?



 



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[#] Wed Mar 10 2021 19:37:29 EST from NevadaRob

Subject: Re: collect: premature EOM: input/output error

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Right you are!

for anyone else with this issue

cd /usr/local/citadel

sudo chmod -R 775 test

sudo chown -R citadel:citadel test

Thanks



[#] Thu Mar 11 2021 02:33:53 EST from sharezone

Subject: errore installation citadel on raspberry pi4

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i try to install citadel on raspberry pi4 with command 

wget http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | sudo bash

 

but i receview error 

 

config.guess timestamp = 2006-07-02

 

uname -m = aarch64

uname -r = 4.19.0-13-arm64

uname -s = Linux

uname -v = #1 SMP Debian 4.19.160-2 (2020-11-28)

 

/usr/bin/uname -p = unknown

/bin/uname -X     =

 

hostinfo               =

/bin/universe          =

/usr/bin/arch -k       =

/bin/arch              = aarch64

/usr/bin/oslevel       =

/usr/convex/getsysinfo =

 

UNAME_MACHINE = aarch64

UNAME_RELEASE = 4.19.0-13-arm64

UNAME_SYSTEM  = Linux

UNAME_VERSION = #1 SMP Debian 4.19.160-2 (2020-11-28)

configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one

 Citadel Easy Install is aborting.

 The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong.

 Linux Debian 10.8( 4.19.0-13-arm64 aarch64)

 

can help me

 


[#] Fri Mar 12 2021 12:08:14 EST from citadeluser

Subject: Re: collect: premature EOM: input/output error

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Log on the recipient side  after Citadel-SMTP email with text only:

sendmail[1840]: 12CGlZ0C001739: to=<xxx@yyy.aa>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=31051, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent

 

Log on the recipient side after Citadel-SMTP Email with attachments:

sendmail[1923]: 12CGqgmh001823: collect: premature EOM: unexpected close





Note:

Note: with "easyinstall" there was a warning "Variable b64 defined but not used" (or something like that)

Does this variable have something to do with Base64 for binary attechments?

Does this mean that SMTP does not work with binary attechments?

 



[#] Fri Mar 12 2021 12:43:05 EST from citadeluser

Subject: Re: collect: premature EOM: input/output error

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Sending email with binary attachments is not possible internally either. Emails are sent - but without attachments.



[#] Fri Mar 12 2021 17:21:49 EST from citadeluser

Subject: Re: collect: premature EOM: input/output error

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vcard_edit.c:424:6: warning: variable 'is_b64' set but not used [-Wunused-but-set-variable]
  424 |  int is_b64 = 0;

 

And many more warnings



[#] Fri Mar 12 2021 19:57:08 EST from markus

Subject: Please renew config.guess/config.sub in libcitadel-easyinstall.tar.gz

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Dear developers,

I have checked the latest editions (9th of March 2021) of

- citadel-easyinstall.tar.gz,

- webcit-easyinstall.tar.gz and

- libcitadel-easyinstall.tar.gz

As I can see, you have renewed config.guess and config.sub in the first two mentioned archives, but not in the last.

Would you please do it?

Thanks,

Markus



[#] Fri Mar 12 2021 20:10:16 EST from markus

Subject: Re: errore installation citadel on raspberry pi4

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Please follow the instructions of my posting on Sun Jan 24 2021 16:19:47 EST. You can ignore all instructions concerning

- citadel-easyinstall.tar.gz and

- webcit-easyinstall.tar.gz

because these archives are already fixed.

 

 

Thu Mar 11 2021 02:33:53 EST from sharezone Subject: errore installation citadel on raspberry pi4

i try to install citadel on raspberry pi4 with command 

wget http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | sudo bash

 

but i receview error 

 

config.guess timestamp = 2006-07-02

 

uname -m = aarch64

uname -r = 4.19.0-13-arm64

uname -s = Linux

uname -v = #1 SMP Debian 4.19.160-2 (2020-11-28)

 

/usr/bin/uname -p = unknown

/bin/uname -X     =

 

hostinfo               =

/bin/universe          =

/usr/bin/arch -k       =

/bin/arch              = aarch64

/usr/bin/oslevel       =

/usr/convex/getsysinfo =

 

UNAME_MACHINE = aarch64

UNAME_RELEASE = 4.19.0-13-arm64

UNAME_SYSTEM  = Linux

UNAME_VERSION = #1 SMP Debian 4.19.160-2 (2020-11-28)

configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one

 Citadel Easy Install is aborting.

 The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong.

 Linux Debian 10.8( 4.19.0-13-arm64 aarch64)

 

can help me

 


 



[#] Sat Mar 13 2021 15:40:51 EST from tsalmon

Subject: Initial Setup

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I have a few questions:

Does Citadel support SSL/TLS?

I have been trying to use a third-party CA authority for the SSL certificates.

Is there a setting to setup TLS for citadel and webcit?

 



[#] Sat Mar 13 2021 22:57:43 EST from ParanoidDelusions

Subject: Re: collect: premature EOM: input/output error

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Yeah, this was one of the main reasons I updated to an i5 NUC and full Debian... and in the process of migrating, I discovered this issue. :) 

Otherwise I was pretty happy running it on a Pi 3, and it ran pretty well. 


But, it was a good learning experience, and made me understand the whole thing better - and get more serious about running the BBS - so, I suppose it was worth it. :) 

 

Wed Mar 10 2021 19:37:29 EST from NevadaRob Subject: Re: collect: premature EOM: input/output error

Right you are!

for anyone else with this issue

cd /usr/local/citadel

sudo chmod -R 775 test

sudo chown -R citadel:citadel test

Thanks



 



[#] Mon Mar 15 2021 15:01:11 EDT from tlhonmey

Subject: "Fediverse"

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Not certain if this is the best room to discuss this, but it seems to be the closest in the list...

I'm noticing lots of projects to try to take back the social web cropping up, and they're all developing common, "federated" protocols to let users on the various different servers/platforms interact with each other mostly-seamlessly.

 

Thing is...  Citadel is *way* more polished than even the best of these.  (Most of which are written in horribly resource-hungry languages like PHP or GO and only have a small set of the features.) 

But Citadel has no "Federation" features (at least, not that I've ever noticed.)  If I want to talk to someone on a different server I can maybe send them an email.  For pretty much anything else I have to go and create an account on their server.

While this is fine as a replacement for Exchange and other "Groupware" suites, the days where mailing lists were everyone's favorite means of socializing on the web are likely over.

 

I'm not sure where the best place to add other server interactions to the current metaphors would be.  Possibly a special floor?  A "Public" floor that publishes its contents via the federation protocols and allows "foreign" posts to be seamlessly displayed seems like it would be a decent starting point.  Or maybe do it at the room level.  I can see how one might prefer either approach.

All the other open-source federated social platform projects are pale imitations run by people with a tiny fraction of the Citadel community's experience.  The only thing they do better than Citadel is that they talk to each other.  Were Citadel to jump into that pool I'd expect it would make quite a splash.

 



[#] Mon Mar 15 2021 15:25:45 EDT from Nurb432

Subject: Re: "Fediverse"

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Something like this did exist. It went away. My understanding is it may come back someday.



[#] Mon Mar 15 2021 19:29:33 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

Subject: Re: "Fediverse"

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You're not the first person to agitate for more of this in Citadel. It is a mixed bag. 

Part of what makes Citadel so awesome is it isn't a polished nightclub - it is a corner local. It isn't fancy enough for the mouth-breathing masses. 

The more social media features we add - the bigger the audience is likely to grow - also, the more common that audience - bringing a lot of the problems that right now are contained on places like Facebook and Twitter. 

Maybe let them *have* the social media web - and we can keep the anti-social-media web. :) 

But... I am not unsympathetic to the idea of sidenets and more social media features. 

 



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