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[#] Sun Dec 13 2020 22:44:38 EST from greymont

Subject: Unsubscribe from support mailing list

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I am subscribed to the Citadel Support mailing list for many years but want to unsubscribe. I have searched for how to do this but cannot find any instructions. Unlike most mailing lists, the mailinglist messages do not include any unsubscribe instructions. Can anyone direct me to the correct instructions?



[#] Mon Dec 14 2020 09:54:39 EST from greymont

Subject: Unsubscribe from support mailing list

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I am subscribed to the Citadel Support mailing list for many years but want to unsubscribe. I have searched for how to do this but cannot find any instructions. Unlike most mailing lists, the mailinglist messages do not include any unsubscribe instructions. Can anyone direct me to the correct instructions?



[#] Mon Dec 14 2020 10:55:34 EST from greymont

Subject: Unsubscribe from support mailing list

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I am subscribed to the Citadel Support mailing list for many years but want to unsubscribe. I have searched for how to do this but cannot find any instructions. Unlike most mailing lists, the mailinglist messages do not include any unsubscribe instructions. Can anyone direct me to the correct instructions?



[#] Tue Dec 22 2020 15:38:24 EST from omatnet

Subject: SMTP Queue shows a constant error message

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Hi,

 

In one of my latest Citadel installations (Citadel 929 with WebCit 926, server build 929), after a while I noticed a strange error message when clicking on the "View the outbound SMTP queue" option.

Directly under the title: 

Jobs waiting for further processing:
ERROR: �
Message ID Date/time submitted Next attempt Sender Recipients

 

but other than that, everything seems to work fine and outgoing emails are listed as should.

Today, following what seemed to be a brute force attack (circumstantial, could be unrelated), the server crashed and wouldn't start with the log mentioning that the databases are corrupt. Trying to repair the databases using db_recover and then database_cleanup.sh did not work. So I reinstalled again using EasyInstall, which worked - and all data was saved, which was grate.

BUT - the error message in the SMTP Queue is still there...

Any ideas what's going on?

Thank you so much - and HAPPY HOLIDAYS! 



[#] Sun Dec 27 2020 17:20:14 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Problem with incorrect displaying of Subject: header fixed

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Attn: platonov , and anyone else who was having problems with RSS feeds in foreign languages ...

New versions of all Citadel packages have been published. Everything should be in really good shape now:

1. The RSS reader has been cleaned up and should no longer be clipping Subject lines and other fields.
2. Display of these fields in WebCit is sanitized some more
3. Display of these fields in the text client has also been made more robust.

There are other changes in this version, but I wanted to answer this one because some of you were waiting for it. Thank you for your patience.

[#] Sun Dec 27 2020 20:07:16 EST from patrickdickey52761

Subject: Running Citadel on a VM

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Hi everyone,

I'm setting up a mesh network and plan on running Citadel as a part of it. The plan is to run everything that I can on virtual machines that are hosted on ESXi on an IBM System x3550 rack server. My first question is will this work? My second question is how much disk space and memory will I need to allocate for this? It will mainly be a relay to another email address and in the future maybe 20 accounts.

Thanks and have a great night. :)

Patrick.



[#] Sun Dec 27 2020 20:10:23 EST from patrickdickey52761

Subject: Running Citadel as a virtual machine

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Hi everyone,

I'm setting up a mesh network and plan on running Citadel as a part of it. The plan is to run everything that I can on virtual machines that are hosted on ESXi on an IBM System x3550 rack server. My first question is will this work? My second question is how much disk space and memory will I need to allocate for this? It will mainly be a relay to another email address and in the future maybe 20 accounts.

Thanks and have a great night. :)

Patrick.

P.S. I didn't realize that after I "logged in" it took me to the Lobby instead of returning me here. Feel free to flame away. :)



[#] Mon Dec 28 2020 11:14:10 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Running Citadel as a virtual machine

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Citadel will run just fine on ESXi.  I have done it many times.  Just install a stock Linux OS in a virtual machine (Debian will do nicely) and run the Easy Install.  You will be up and running in no time.



[#] Mon Dec 28 2020 22:40:21 EST from markus

Subject: Citadel server and Openmediavault on the same debian machine.

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Hello!

Once I was running openmediavault (NAS software) and citadel-suite on one and the same x86-computer running debian 8 and it worked fine.

Now that I want to run these applications on an arm64-computer with debian 10 installed (infact its armbian) it seems to be impossible. Any time I try to install citadel-suite or citadel-server while running openmediavault the package manager wants to remove openmediavault first.

The problem could be the mail-transport-agent that openmediavault needs to install and which is conflicting with citadel.

Is there a solution to the problem such that both applications can run together on one host?

Kind regards

Markus



[#] Tue Dec 29 2020 10:11:02 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Citadel server and Openmediavault on the same debian machine.

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Yes ... ditch the packages and deploy Citadel using Easy Install instead.
As a bonus you'll get a much newer version.

[#] Wed Dec 30 2020 05:49:30 EST from tabbi

Subject: citadel on a raspi 4 64bit?

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Hallo,

 

I want to use a Raspi 4 8GB with Raspian as an Citadel-Server.

I need a configuration as on my raspi 3 with fetchmail, citadel and postfix.

The original debian package installs as a citadel-MTA and kills postfix. So I tried to install with easyinstall, but the Result is not right:

I need help!

 

Installing libcitadel...
checking build system type... conftools/config.guess: unable to guess system type

This script, last modified 2006-07-02, has failed to recognize
the operating system you are using. It is advised that you
download the most up to date version of the config scripts from

  http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/*checkout*/config/config/config.guess
and
  http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/*checkout*/config/config/config.sub

If the version you run (conftools/config.guess) is already up to date, please
send the following data and any information you think might be
pertinent to <config-patches@gnu.org> in order to provide the needed
information to handle your system.

config.guess timestamp = 2006-07-02

uname -m = aarch64
uname -r = 5.4.79-v8+
uname -s = Linux
uname -v = #1373 SMP PREEMPT Mon Nov 23 13:32:41 GMT 2020

/usr/bin/uname -p =
/bin/uname -X     =

hostinfo               =
/bin/universe          =
/usr/bin/arch -k       =
/bin/arch              =
/usr/bin/oslevel       =
/usr/convex/getsysinfo =

UNAME_MACHINE = aarch64
UNAME_RELEASE = 5.4.79-v8+
UNAME_SYSTEM  = Linux
UNAME_VERSION = #1373 SMP PREEMPT Mon Nov 23 13:32:41 GMT 2020
configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one
 Citadel Easy Install is aborting.
 The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong.
 Linux Debian 10.7( 5.4.79-v8+ aarch64)

 

tabbi



[#] Wed Dec 30 2020 10:23:01 EST from ParanoidDelusions

Subject: Re: citadel on a raspi 4 64bit?

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There are instructions on my Citadel, wallofhate.com on how to install Citadel on a Pi 3B+.

I can't help you with fetchmail and postfix and if there may be library conflicts with that part of it - but I'd think getting Citadel installed and running first might be the best first step toward achieving what you want.

 

Wed Dec 30 2020 05:49:30 EST from tabbi Subject: citadel on a raspi 4 64bit?

Hallo,

 

I want to use a Raspi 4 8GB with Raspian as an Citadel-Server.

I need a configuration as on my raspi 3 with fetchmail, citadel and postfix.



[#] Wed Dec 30 2020 10:24:13 EST from ParanoidDelusions

Subject: Re: citadel on a raspi 4 64bit?

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I would absolutely NOT recommend using the distro packages. I had no luck with that route. Easy Install is always the way to go - the distros aren't well enough maintained to use the apt packages to install a correctly working instance of Citadel - especially on Raspbian.



[#] Wed Dec 30 2020 11:24:04 EST from Nurb432

Subject: Re: citadel on a raspi 4 64bit?

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Another vote for this, from a nobody.   Packages are always behind current, and can create other havoc in the system.

Wed Dec 30 2020 10:24:13 EST from ParanoidDelusions Subject: Re: citadel on a raspi 4 64bit?

I would absolutely NOT recommend using the distro packages. I had no luck with that route. Easy Install is always the way to go - the distros aren't well enough maintained to use the apt packages to install a correctly working instance of Citadel - especially on Raspbian.



 



[#] Wed Dec 30 2020 17:07:36 EST from arvindikc

Subject: How to create multi server setup for Citadel

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Hi

 

Is there any guide/howto explaining multi server setup of CITADEL?

Arvind.

 



[#] Fri Jan 01 2021 09:32:09 EST from markus

Subject: Re: Citadel server and Openmediavault on the same debian machine.

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Tue Dec 29 2020 10:11:02 EST from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: Citadel server and Openmediavault on the same debian machine.
Yes ... ditch the packages and deploy Citadel using Easy Install instead.
As a bonus you'll get a much newer version.

I tried to install Citadel by using Easy Install.

1) First with "curl http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | bash". The installtion process stopped with the following info:

    % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
    100   185  100   185    0     0    429      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--   429
    bash: line 1: html: No such file or directory
    bash: line 2: syntax error near unexpected token `<'
   'ash: line 2: `<head><title>301 Moved Permanently</title></head>

2) Then I tried the other option "wget -q -O - http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | bash". It runs for a while well until it fails with:

    Installing libcitadel...
    checking build system type... conftools/config.guess: unable to guess system type

    This script, last modified 2006-07-02, has failed to recognize
    the operating system you are using. It is advised that you
    download the most up to date version of the config scripts from

    http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/*checkout*/config/config/config.guess
    and
    http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/*checkout*/config/config/config.sub

    If the version you run (conftools/config.guess) is already up to date, please
    send the following data and any information you think might be
    pertinent to <config-patches@gnu.org> in order to provide the needed
    information to handle your system.

    config.guess timestamp = 2006-07-02

    uname -m = aarch64
    uname -r = 5.9.14-rockchip64
    uname -s = Linux
    uname -v = #20.11.4 SMP PREEMPT Tue Dec 15 08:52:20 CET 2020

    /usr/bin/uname -p = unknown
    /bin/uname -X     =

    hostinfo               =
    /bin/universe          =
    /usr/bin/arch -k       =
    /bin/arch              = aarch64
    /usr/bin/oslevel       =
    /usr/convex/getsysinfo =

    UNAME_MACHINE = aarch64
    UNAME_RELEASE = 5.9.14-rockchip64
    UNAME_SYSTEM  = Linux
    UNAME_VERSION = #20.11.4 SMP PREEMPT Tue Dec 15 08:52:20 CET 2020
    configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one
    Citadel Easy Install is aborting.
    The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong.
    Linux Debian 10.7( 5.9.14-rockchip64 aarch64)

2.1) Follow the advice, I have downloaded a new "config.guess" and "config.sub from the mentioned URLs. I used them instead of mine that came from the distribution and run again "wget -q -O - http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | bash".  But no luck, the problem persists and 'I got the same output as during the last run.

Do you have any idea? Thanks in advance!

Markus



[#] Fri Jan 01 2021 11:07:06 EST from warbaby

Subject: Re: Citadel server and Openmediavault on the same debian machine.

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Try:

wget https://easyinstall.citadel.org/install -O easyinstall.sh

chmod +x easyinstall.sh

./easyinstall.sh

 A change was already pushed to the website, but the updater is apparently not running.

For the record, I personally will never pipe unknown input directly to a privileged shell. 

Always take a look at what you're running. Download, head, cat, whatever..

That gnu error btw, is not coming directly from easyinstall..

 

Fri Jan 01 2021 09:32:09 AM EST from markus Subject: Re: Citadel server and Openmediavault on the same debian machine.

 

Tue Dec 29 2020 10:11:02 EST from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: Citadel server and Openmediavault on the same debian machine.
Yes ... ditch the packages and deploy Citadel using Easy Install instead.
As a bonus you'll get a much newer version.

I tried to install Citadel by using Easy Install.

1) First with "curl http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | bash". The installtion process stopped with the following info:

    % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
    100   185  100   185    0     0    429      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--   429
    bash: line 1: html: No such file or directory
    bash: line 2: syntax error near unexpected token `<'
   'ash: line 2: `<head><title>301 Moved Permanently</title></head>

2) Then I tried the other option "wget -q -O - http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | bash". It runs for a while well until it fails with:

    Installing libcitadel...
    checking build system type... conftools/config.guess: unable to guess system type

    This script, last modified 2006-07-02, has failed to recognize
    the operating system you are using. It is advised that you
    download the most up to date version of the config scripts from

    http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/*checkout*/config/config/config.guess
    and
    http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/*checkout*/config/config/config.sub

    If the version you run (conftools/config.guess) is already up to date, please
    send the following data and any information you think might be
    pertinent to <config-patches@gnu.org> in order to provide the needed
    information to handle your system.

    config.guess timestamp = 2006-07-02

    uname -m = aarch64
    uname -r = 5.9.14-rockchip64
    uname -s = Linux
    uname -v = #20.11.4 SMP PREEMPT Tue Dec 15 08:52:20 CET 2020

    /usr/bin/uname -p = unknown
    /bin/uname -X     =

    hostinfo               =
    /bin/universe          =
    /usr/bin/arch -k       =
    /bin/arch              = aarch64
    /usr/bin/oslevel       =
    /usr/convex/getsysinfo =

    UNAME_MACHINE = aarch64
    UNAME_RELEASE = 5.9.14-rockchip64
    UNAME_SYSTEM  = Linux
    UNAME_VERSION = #20.11.4 SMP PREEMPT Tue Dec 15 08:52:20 CET 2020
    configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one
    Citadel Easy Install is aborting.
    The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong.
    Linux Debian 10.7( 5.9.14-rockchip64 aarch64)

2.1) Follow the advice, I have downloaded a new "config.guess" and "config.sub from the mentioned URLs. I used them instead of mine that came from the distribution and run again "wget -q -O - http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | bash".  But no luck, the problem persists and 'I got the same output as during the last run.

Do you have any idea? Thanks in advance!

Markus



 



[#] Fri Jan 01 2021 13:47:36 EST from wesleyallison

Subject: help setting up

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I would like to know if anyone has a full tutorial? including the domain with No IP.



[#] Fri Jan 01 2021 13:58:28 EST from ParanoidDelusions

Subject: Re: help setting up

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I've got a full update on installing on Raspbian on a Pi at my Citadel - wallofhate.com

But it will fail on a curl or wget for the same reason listed above - you've got to use HTTPS: in the URL you give curl or wget now. the HTTP URL will download the file locally, and you have to execute the script there using SU or sudo to get it to work.

Fri Jan 01 2021 13:47:36 EST from wesleyallison Subject: help setting up

I would like to know if anyone has a full tutorial? including the domain with No IP.



 



[#] Fri Jan 01 2021 19:13:29 EST from markus

Subject: Re: Citadel server and Openmediavault on the same debian machine.

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Thanks for your reply!

Accoring to the error output it is "config.guess" that cannot recognize my operating system. I found that "config.guess" (and "config.sub") are both contained by "libcitadel-easyinstall.tar.gz" (in the directory "conftools") which the script https://easyinstall.citadel.org/install downloads from https://easyinstall.citadel.org/. And these files seemed to be old. When I open "config.guess" and "config.sub" I can see the timestamp variable is set to "2006-07-02" and "2006-09-20", respectively. Could be that theses files are to old to recognize my operating system.

So I tried to get newer once following the URLs bellow which I took from the error output of "config.guess":
http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/*checkout*/config/config/config.guess and
http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/*checkout*/config/config/config.sub
But the once I got where from 2008 which are still quite old.

Finally, I have talked to people listening to config-patches@gnu.org and I got the following URLs:
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/config.git/plain/config.guess
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/config.git/plain/config.sub
These URLs provide quite actual versions of "config.guess" and "config.sub" dated to 2020-12-22.

Could you please check if these newer files from 2020 can replace the once from 2006? Thanks in advance.

Markus

 

Fri Jan 01 2021 11:07:06 EST from warbaby Subject: Re: Citadel server and Openmediavault on the same debian machine.

Try:

wget https://easyinstall.citadel.org/install -O easyinstall.sh

chmod +x easyinstall.sh

./easyinstall.sh

 A change was already pushed to the website, but the updater is apparently not running.

For the record, I personally will never pipe unknown input directly to a privileged shell. 

Always take a look at what you're running. Download, head, cat, whatever..

That gnu error btw, is not coming directly from easyinstall..

 

Fri Jan 01 2021 09:32:09 AM EST from markus Subject: Re: Citadel server and Openmediavault on the same debian machine.

 

Tue Dec 29 2020 10:11:02 EST from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: Citadel server and Openmediavault on the same debian machine.
Yes ... ditch the packages and deploy Citadel using Easy Install instead.
As a bonus you'll get a much newer version.

I tried to install Citadel by using Easy Install.

1) First with "curl http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | bash". The installtion process stopped with the following info:

    % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
    100   185  100   185    0     0    429      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--   429
    bash: line 1: html: No such file or directory
    bash: line 2: syntax error near unexpected token `<'
   'ash: line 2: `<head><title>301 Moved Permanently</title></head>

2) Then I tried the other option "wget -q -O - http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | bash". It runs for a while well until it fails with:

    Installing libcitadel...
    checking build system type... conftools/config.guess: unable to guess system type

    This script, last modified 2006-07-02, has failed to recognize
    the operating system you are using. It is advised that you
    download the most up to date version of the config scripts from

    http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/*checkout*/config/config/config.guess
    and
    http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/*checkout*/config/config/config.sub

    If the version you run (conftools/config.guess) is already up to date, please
    send the following data and any information you think might be
    pertinent to <config-patches@gnu.org> in order to provide the needed
    information to handle your system.

    config.guess timestamp = 2006-07-02

    uname -m = aarch64
    uname -r = 5.9.14-rockchip64
    uname -s = Linux
    uname -v = #20.11.4 SMP PREEMPT Tue Dec 15 08:52:20 CET 2020

    /usr/bin/uname -p = unknown
    /bin/uname -X     =

    hostinfo               =
    /bin/universe          =
    /usr/bin/arch -k       =
    /bin/arch              = aarch64
    /usr/bin/oslevel       =
    /usr/convex/getsysinfo =

    UNAME_MACHINE = aarch64
    UNAME_RELEASE = 5.9.14-rockchip64
    UNAME_SYSTEM  = Linux
    UNAME_VERSION = #20.11.4 SMP PREEMPT Tue Dec 15 08:52:20 CET 2020
    configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one
    Citadel Easy Install is aborting.
    The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong.
    Linux Debian 10.7( 5.9.14-rockchip64 aarch64)

2.1) Follow the advice, I have downloaded a new "config.guess" and "config.sub from the mentioned URLs. I used them instead of mine that came from the distribution and run again "wget -q -O - http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | bash".  But no luck, the problem persists and 'I got the same output as during the last run.

Do you have any idea? Thanks in advance!

Markus



 



 



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