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[#] Wed May 17 2023 17:26:39 EDT from josephmmmorgan

Subject: Re: Is Citadel multi-tennant?

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So I see I was exploring this last August!   Then I got awfully busy and now am at the point I need to finish this up.

I don't think I can use let's encrypt because I'm not (yet) hosting my web domains on the same server, and from what I'm reading, I would need to.  No biggie for me, I can pay $15 a year for the domains I need to support to get my certs signed.

I'm interested in your reverse proxy setup.   In your proxy, you have, say, mail.example1.com and mail.example2.com certificates.  When the proxy forwards to Citadel, how does it resolve, say, joe@example1.com from joe@example2.com?   In other words, let's say I have example1.com and example2.com listed in my local hosts in Citadel.  Of course, then I have a user "joe".   When an email arrives at my proxy as "joe@example1.com" and is forwarded to Citadel, does it just use the propagated headers to file it to the proper mail box?

 

 

 

Wed Aug 10 2022 14:36:24 EDT from mrsfeathers Subject: Re: Is Citadel multi-tennant?

it would CERT-ainly be the easiest way, as afaik citadel was made for small use cases and only takes one cert.. so you'd have to combine them. easiest way to combine them and keep them up to date is lets encrypt.. and the mail server should be visible at least at mail.example1.com and mail.example2.com if you set it up right with multidomains.. and when you request mail.example1.com and mail.example2.com it SHOULD also grant example1.com and example2.com by default... so even if your mail server isn't the main website on the domain, it should work. for me, i have an nginx reverse proxy on my domain.tld and mail is mail.domain.tld and all my certs are handled by the reverse proxy which then just has a cron that rsyncs them to all the other web-facing servers in my network daily, so every system always has up to date certs and if a system fails, i get notified about it via the cron email thingy and i just have the rsync directory be the one that citadel takes its certs from and then just forget about it. of course, make sure you can only log into whatever user via SSH certs and not passwords, because that's safer.

 

 


 



[#] Mon May 22 2023 16:51:23 EDT from 360fc

Subject: Full text keeps flushing over and over

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Just got a new server and migrated all data over. 4.5GB total 150000 objects

 

there is one issue and its been going for a day now writing to disk.

Can anyone give details how this function works or if this is normal operation



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[#] Tue May 23 2023 00:16:11 EDT from Tom Q Servo

Subject: biggest oversight in the Cita Solar System

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True fact: I spend most of my work day playing a game, I think it's called "Forgot My Password" and its a clickable link on almost every website invented since geocities. I click that game and it invariably although somewhat different per site, gives me clues as to how to reset a forgotten password. I know passwords should never be written down and post-it noted near the computer, so I go a step further and not only refuse to write passwords down, but also I refuse to commit them to my own memory.

I tried (without success, probably due to my ADD or Alcoholism or both) to implement a "Forgot my Password" routine in webcit for citadel.smashbot.com. I think IRRC the problem I ran into, if I remember correctly, sans repeating myself was that webcit uses Berkeley DB, noSql... I guess I am too stupid to figure out how to do it.

SO- can anyone talk about solving the biggest oversight in the citadel solar system? Forgot My Password! I am tired of being someone else. I started to talk about this very topic and, no...wait, that wasn't me.



[#] Tue May 23 2023 07:00:08 EDT from nonservator

Subject: Re: biggest oversight in the Cita Solar System

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One way is to implement U2F authentication with hardware keys that you treat the same as every other important key on a physical keyring.



[#] Wed May 24 2023 07:00:00 EDT from tabbi

Subject: Re: How works the automatic message eraser in webcit?

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Mon May 01 2023 23:16:25 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: How works the automatic message eraser in webcit?
I want to erase all old messages after a year. How do it works? I try it
in
webcit, but it dosnt save these settings?!

Remember that you can apply these settings on an individual room, a floor, or the whole system. Check to see if you're applying it in the correct place.

I want to use this settings for the whole system. I must do it with webcit.

I login as admin, go to the system settings and there is a tab "automatic eraser" and there I can set ph to erase all messages being older than 365 days. I save this but when I open this site the next time, the old standard is shown. No automatic eraser!!



[#] Wed Jun 07 2023 13:29:59 EDT from centos7

Subject: New user trying to navigate around

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I just installed citadel through easyinstall, how to I get to web client?

 



[#] Wed Jun 07 2023 18:00:51 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: New user trying to navigate around

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I just installed citadel through easyinstall, how to I get to web
client?

With a web browser.

[#] Tue Jun 13 2023 14:17:47 EDT from ramponderson

Subject: Trying to understand attachments

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Hello all,

 

I just got Citadel running (installed using Easy-Install on a raspi 0w) and am trying to add an attachment to a post in the lobby. When drafting the message, I added the attachment by clicking on the Attachments tab, but I cannot find the attachment after posting. What am I doing wrong here?

 

Thanks for your help



[#] Tue Jun 13 2023 15:36:35 EDT from ramponderson

Subject: Re: Trying to understand attachments

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After looking through settings a bit deeper, I found it. Thanks to the developers for this awesome tool.

Tue Jun 13 2023 14:17:47 EDT from ramponderson Subject: Trying to understand attachments

Hello all,

 

I just got Citadel running (installed using Easy-Install on a raspi 0w) and am trying to add an attachment to a post in the lobby. When drafting the message, I added the attachment by clicking on the Attachments tab, but I cannot find the attachment after posting. What am I doing wrong here?

 

Thanks for your help



 



[#] Wed Jun 14 2023 09:03:21 EDT from cerpjay

Subject: Alias Limit

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The documentation says there is no alias limit for a user, but I hit a limit.  I have 50 alias of ~20 characters each.  There appears to be a character limit for the alias field on the Admin window.  There is a row entry limit on the user address card.

How can I (more directly?) enter all my aliases?  I look forward to your reply.

 



[#] Wed Jun 14 2023 09:22:38 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Alias Limit

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There is no limit to the number of aliases, but there is a finite amount of space to enter them. If you run into this limit you can try adding more to the global alias table, which is truly unlimited.

[#] Thu Jun 15 2023 10:05:28 EDT from cjonline

Subject: easy installed system - upgrade?

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hi, 

I have a working citadel set up that seems to be working ok (Citadel Server 972 with WebCit 974)


I would like to upgrade to the latest version of both server and webcit.  what is the easiest way of doing this without having to follow the  compilation process "make upgrade" etc?


Is there a way I can use the "easy install" method that will upgrade my system without losing data?


thanks

Craig.



[#] Thu Jun 15 2023 13:35:30 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: easy installed system - upgrade?

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If you performed the original installation using Easy Install, you can also upgrade using Easy Install.

It will detect that you have an existing installation and automatically perform an upgrade.

If you built it manually, just take a good backup, then delete everything except the following directories:
/usr/local/citadel/data
/usr/local/citadel/keys
/usr/local/citadel/files
/usr/local/citadel/messages
And then either run Easy Install or deploy the Docker container version.
Again, your existing data will be detected and it will perform an upgrade.

[#] Thu Jun 15 2023 20:20:52 EDT from cerpjay

Subject: Re: Alias Limit

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Excellent!  So, my interpretation is those are mutually exclusive, but mutually applicable fields.  In other words: no overlap and they both apply.



[#] Thu Jun 15 2023 21:00:40 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Alias Limit

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The global list is processed first, and can expand aliases to multiple users.
After that is done, it looks up individual recipients (and/or rooms) using their own aliases.

[#] Fri Jun 16 2023 04:20:10 EDT from cjonline

Subject: Re: easy installed system - upgrade?

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thanks :)

 

Thu Jun 15 2023 13:35:30 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: easy installed system - upgrade?

If you performed the original installation using Easy Install, you can also upgrade using Easy Install.

It will detect that you have an existing installation and automatically perform an upgrade.

If you built it manually, just take a good backup, then delete everything except the following directories:
/usr/local/citadel/data
/usr/local/citadel/keys
/usr/local/citadel/files
/usr/local/citadel/messages
And then either run Easy Install or deploy the Docker container version.
Again, your existing data will be detected and it will perform an upgrade.

 



[#] Sat Jun 17 2023 09:26:47 EDT from mahadyj

Subject: smart host issues

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Hi Team,

I'm hoping someone can help with some advice. I've recently installed citadel via easyinstall script but I'm struggling with outbound email. I'm running the server on a residential connections which blocks port 25 so I've setup a smart host in the format username:password@smtp_relay:port . I've also made sure my SSL certs are valid and I can receive emails. Outbound, the smart host keeps throwing an authentication error 535. There are no smart host logs unfortunately but I've turned debugging on the citadel server with the following output

I've run a packet capture but the traffic is SSL encrypted so I can see why its throwing an error. I have tested the smart host connection via telnet and I can connect and send emails.

Is there anyway I can see what username and password is being sent to the smart host? I'd greatly appreciate any advice or suggestions you have.

Thanks,

Jonathan

 



[#] Sun Jun 18 2023 11:21:15 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: smart host issues

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Is there anyway I can see what username and password is being sent to
the smart host? I'd greatly appreciate any advice or suggestions you
have.

I don't think so, but you might try putting smtp:// in front of your username and password.

Hint: it's using libcurl to send mail, so what you're sending it is an SMTP URL that is valid for curl. If you want to troubleshoot it from the command line, you can test using something like [ 

[ https://everything.curl.dev/usingcurl/smtp ]

and when you've got the correct SMTP URL for your setup, you can drop that back into Citadel.

[#] Sun Jun 18 2023 22:50:36 EDT from cerpjay

Subject: Re: Alias Limit

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Understood. :)  I can work with that.

Any plans to update the input fields so they are no longer the restriction to taking full advantage of truly unlimited aliases as per the documentation?  Time frame?



[#] Sun Jun 18 2023 23:11:01 EDT from cerpjay

Subject: Years Limitation?

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I have remote retrieval setup to poll my email at Godaddy.com every 900 seconds via POP3.  It pulls emails from 2005 to 2016 into Citadel; whereas my Godaddy.com email history extends to the present.  What to do?

 



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